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Palemdromes posted:So should they be burned down? Never visited? You realize they don’t have slaves on them anymore? I don't know, but choosing to have a celebration on the land where people were enslaved, raped, murdered and degraded in every way imaginable seems callous and insensitive at best.
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AITA for calling my spouse a "stupid fat hobbit"?quote:So context - there's a scene in Lord of the Rings where Gollum catches a rabbit, and Sam takes it and cooks in a stew. Gollum laments with "You stupid, fat hobbit! You ruins it!" hoping to have eaten it raw. It's one of my favorite movies and my wife like it too and is well aware of this scene (it's the source of the famous po-tay-to viral internet video from way back in the day).
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sheri posted:I don't know, but choosing to have a celebration on the land where people were enslaved, raped, murdered and degraded in every way imaginable seems callous and insensitive at best. I mean, that’s...pretty much everywhere in the south. You can’t really avoid it. Should people not have weddings in Catholic Churches? Might be condoning child abuse!
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Palemdromes posted:So should they be burned down? Never visited? You realize they don’t have slaves on them anymore? Plantation weddings have been known to have people dress up in period clothing, which of course then draws that problem of glamorizing slavery. It's not a perfect source but here is an article on plantation weddings and some of the issues surrounding them. https://www.salon.com/2014/01/05/disturbing_wedding_trend_getting_married_at_a_plantation/ Generally it breaks into erasing slavery, or making light of it. I understand you may have grown up around it, and of course not all people having plantation weddings are bad people, but it definitely has problems. quote:Bf [27] very upset/disappointed in me [20F] after concert quote:UPDATE: Bf [27] very upset/disappointed in me [20] after concert
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Pinecone Sample posted:AITA for calling my spouse a "stupid fat hobbit"? Jesus Christ just apologize, your joke didn't go over well.
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Pinecone Sample posted:AITA for calling my spouse a "stupid fat hobbit"? Your wife tolerates it because you love it.
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I’ve been to a bunch of plantation weddings and they were just normal affairs in a pretty natural setting. I imagine the period clothing weddings are idiots not from around here. Or just racists. But yeah in that context they’re pretty gross, I won’t defend that.
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Jun 16, 2019 18:18
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Palemdromes posted:So should they be burned down? Yes Palemdromes posted:Never visited? Yes Palemdromes posted:You realize they don’t have slaves on them anymore? Yes 
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Palemdromes posted:So should they be burned down? Never visited? You realize they don’t have slaves on them anymore? think about the type of people who want to travel to louisiana to have a wedding on a plantation. its generally paula dean i want a slave theme wedding not i want my wedding on this cool big house. Also unironically tear them down and use the land to build afforadable housing
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Absolutely don’t send your kid to college at 13 but where are people getting the idea it’s a community college? In-state tuition at a 4yr university can go as low as 5k/yr. It’s explicitly books/fees/living costs/OOS/private that gives the astronomical numbers Though, you know, they’re offering her over $50k for free which is also a pretty astronomical number to most normal people Yakiniku Teishoku fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Jun 16, 2019 |
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Sagebrush posted:If she's already getting accepted to schools at 13, she can absolutely keep studying for another couple of years and get a perfect score on her SAT and ACT and I'm sure win a bunch of other awards and she'll get into Harvard or Yale with a full scholarship and not ruin her life. Tl;dr because I didn't get to take those opportunities at 12-13, I wasted years and took out huge student loans. Don't be like me quote:How much you wanna bet this school that will pay her to go there for the novelty of having a 13-year-old undergraduate is like Bumfuck University at Nowhere anyway
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Pinecone Sample posted:AITA for calling my spouse a "stupid fat hobbit"?
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Anyway dual enrollment or early college high school programs offer most of the benefits for baby geniuses in terms of money and mental stimulation while not literally removing them from interacting with people their age so they should do that tbh
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The stories of guys in their late 20s being total bitch babies because their 20 year old girlfriends acted like 20 year olds will never get old. They want the 20 year olds to just stay in and cater to them every day and skip all the stuff that normal 20 year olds do. Dating women their own age is just too tough as the older women can easily see how their skin is like rice paper.
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AITA for confronting a woman for staring at my husband on the train?quote:This happened yesterday. I was on my way to the mall with my husband and toddler. There was this woman standing near us on the train that kept looking at my husband. It seemed to me like she was checking him out. Our entire ride lasted about 20-25 minutes and she was looking at him almost the entire time. My husband didn’t seem to notice but he’s oblivious when it comes to things like that.
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Palpek posted:AITA for confronting a woman for staring at my husband on the train? YTA. Next!
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Ziv Zulander posted:Yes Or give them to the descendants of the slaves, many of whom are the illegitimate offspring of the plantation’s original owners and still live in the surrounding economically depressed area.
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Palpek posted:AITA for confronting a woman for staring at my husband on the train? Edit: If you think I'm the rear end in a top hat then consider this, I actually said even more poo poo than in the op and I told her our whole life story also
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How can I [33 M] learn to be more patient of my one-year partner's [33 F] backseat driving?quote:TLDR: I have a great relationship with my girlfriend almost all of the time, except when I'm driving and she's constantly backseat driving which is slowly driving me nuts, eventually making me snap. We've talked about it, but it keeps happening and since I think she'll always do it to some extent, how can I learn to be more patient with it?
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chemtrail huffer posted:How can I [33 M] learn to be more patient of my one-year partner's [33 F] backseat driving? Take separate cars or just let her drive all the time. That would drive me nuts as well.
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That’s how my mom was when I was first learning to drive. I had to tell her to shut up because I was more at risk of crashing with her nitpicking everything and distracting me. The first time I started driving on my own I made exactly one mistake on an interstate I had never driven on and nothing else, even in hurricane-like Florida storms. She’s actually making him more likely to have an accident with her constant distractions, which you just know she’ll blame on him not listening to her.
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Palemdromes posted:Should people not have weddings in Catholic Churches? Might be condoning child abuse! Unironically yes
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chemtrail huffer posted:How can I [33 M] learn to be more patient of my one-year partner's [33 F] backseat driving?  with Hyacinth Bucket (it's pronounced boo-kay)
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Getting married at a concentration camp because it’s part of my culture: if you find this distasteful, you hate history.
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MasBrillante posted:Getting married at a concentration camp because it’s part of my culture: if you find this distasteful, you hate history. Nice I was waiting to see how long it took for someone to make that connection.
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Anne Whateley posted:when I toured Harvard, they specifically said they want kids who are soloing at Carnegie Hall by that age, not just leading their school's orchestra. You have to be winning on an international level by then. (Or a legacy kid.) Are you saying that you applied to Harvard as a music student? Getting a free ride in the performing arts is like an order of magnitude more difficult than just your normal academic competitiveness. Yes, you would have to be a nationally known talent and obviously the school orchestra wouldn't cut it -- no more than being the captain of the football team means you're going to Stanford on a football scholarship. It's not that way if you're just trying to get a scholarship to do pre-med. Perfect test scores and some level of renown beyond academics (like winning major science fairs) will do it. There's no reason she couldn't achieve that if she's able to handle college courses at 13 and takes a couple of years. Also note that all of the biggest names have a "if you can get in, you can afford it" policy; they'll ask for the last ten years of your parents' tax returns, determine what they think you should pay, and cover the rest. That does backfire on some people but if these parents are worrying about $6k and textbooks bankrupting them, and their daughter got into MIT, they'd likely end up paying nothing.
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I remember going to a former plantation baron’s house in Savannah and doing a tour. He had the slaves cooped up in a small building with a little coal fireplace where the only decoration was a traditional blue painted ceiling. Meanwhile the mansion had a loving bridge inside for the double staircase from the entry hall and Greco-Roman aesthetics that the slaves were expected to dutifully keep clean. The owner was a proponent of the Indian Removal Act because it would open up land for more slave labor.
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Palemdromes posted:So should they be burned down? Never visited? You realize they don’t have slaves on them anymore? Turn them into neighborhoods and strip malls like every other piece of land in america 
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chitoryu12 posted:I remember going to a former plantation baron’s house in Savannah and doing a tour. He had the slaves cooped up in a small building with a little coal fireplace where the only decoration was a traditional blue painted ceiling. Meanwhile the mansion had a loving bridge inside for the double staircase from the entry hall and Greco-Roman aesthetics that the slaves were expected to dutifully keep clean. It’s funny that people un-ironically think they should be burned down or removed.
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Sagebrush posted:Are you saying that you applied to Harvard as a music student? Getting a free ride in the performing arts is like an order of magnitude more difficult than just your normal academic competitiveness. Yes, you would have to be a nationally known talent and obviously the school orchestra wouldn't cut it -- no more than being the captain of the football team means you're going to Stanford on a football scholarship. And this was like 15 years ago. It's only gotten more competitive since. quote:Also note that all of the biggest names have a "if you can get in, you can afford it" policy; they'll ask for the last ten years of your parents' tax returns, determine what they think you should pay, and cover the rest. That does backfire on some people but if these parents are worrying about $6k and textbooks bankrupting them, and their daughter got into MIT, they'd likely end up paying nothing. 
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chemtrail huffer posted:How can I [33 M] learn to be more patient of my one-year partner's [33 F] backseat driving? He also totalled every car he ever drove and always had a complex explaination how it wasn't his fault. Love you dad but seriously shut up about other people's driving.
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Palpek posted:My dad was doing this to me when I first started driving. When I would start shouting at him to shut up he'd be like 'you can't drive while being so upset!' - 'then stop upsetting me!' He'd huff and puff the rest of the evening. Ugh, it’s true. Backseat drivers are always demonstrably terrible drivers. I think that micromanaging people makes them feel like they have some high level of driving knowledge that other people just don’t possess, which is why other people are just constantly crashing into them.
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Having a wedding at a place where numerous human rights abuses and atrocities took place is tacky at best. Plantations should be given to the descendents of slaves or turned into monuments to the horrors of slavery. Also the guy who said "my friend grew up on one" is loving hilarious. Yes your friend grew up in a monument to white supremacy in a white supremacist culture I'm not surprised you don't see the problem. The union should've burned it all to the ground but 🤷🏾♀️
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Palemdromes posted:I mean, that’s...pretty much everywhere in the south. You can’t really avoid it. Should people not have weddings in Catholic Churches? Might be condoning child abuse! You say that like it's unreasonable, but actually it's good to not get married by an institution that protects child rapists, and it's also good to not celebrate the brutality of the antebellum south
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QuarkJets posted:You say that like it's unreasonable, but actually it's good to not get married by an institution that protects child rapists, and it's also good to not celebrate the brutality of the antebellum south Having a wedding in a pretty area with a bad history isn’t celebrating slavery, but go off. If we took this dumbass logic to it’s fullest extent then there could be no celebrations in the south at all, black or white, because our soil is irrevocably stained with atrocity. The land I grew up on was the site of the Thibodaux Massacre. Clearly my childhood birthday parties were celebrations of white supremacy.
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WIBTA if I point out to my friend that she double dips and is just generally gross when eating dip?quote:So I have this friend Emma. So as the title says, she double dips stuff, like crackers or fries into dips. We'll be at a get together or out at a restaurant sharing appetizers and she'll just smoosh her half eaten fry back into the sauce/dip.
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Palemdromes posted:Having a wedding in a pretty area with a bad history isn’t celebrating slavery, but go off. If you as an adult can joyfully marry on an estate that exists literally because of a genocide, you’re a sociopath. I love the AAVE sign off too. Blacks: good enough to steal slang from; not good enough to listen to when we say maybe don’t pay the descendants of slave owners more money to get married on their pretty mass grave. Also nice pretending that the appeal isn’t precisely the antebellum “charm.” Very good faith.
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Koalas March posted:Having a wedding at a place where numerous human rights abuses and atrocities took place is tacky at best. I won’t disagree with your second paragraph. There ARE plantations owned by the mixed race descendants of slaves, and they’re way better about teaching the history, but guess what: they still host weddings because black people gotta make money too. I can admit they may be tacky. But weddings are in general pretty tacky so in the list of things to get pissed about, this is pretty far down. My friend was black, btw. I didn’t bring it up because it’s not really relevant until someone accuses him of white supremacy, which I’m sure he would think is hilarious.
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Palemdromes posted:I won’t disagree with your second paragraph. There ARE plantations owned by the mixed race descendants of slaves, and they’re way better about teaching the history, but guess what: they still host weddings because black people gotta make money too. I’m Black, and I am saying that your Black friend is engaging in white supremacy. I don’t care how hilarious he finds it, because Black people perpetuate antiBlackness all the time when they uphold white institutions like, say, a slave plantation being a wedding site. I don’t know why you think changes anything. Black people don’t all agree about what is racist or lovely because we are not a monolith. Also, lol at a white person telling us this is low down on the list to get upset about like I don’t literally have family in poverty while their white cousins live richly on the plantation a few miles away. Blood relations except the Black ones are all illegitimate and the white and white passing one’s are still investing the money they made off the former.
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