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Minrad posted:Yeah I love farming primals so that would be my primary incentive. Could also be really handy if/when the HW extremes start to be soloable. You might have a different experience than I did, but nowdays it's possible to directly spend almost no gil if you're reasonably patient, willing to gather crafting/Scrip mats, and diligent about daily Hunts/Poetics. Opportunity cost might be higher. 0-150 is easy since it's crafted stuff & solo dungeon/Coil runs, then it's solo Fractal runs to ~170 -> Centurios & Red Scrips to ~220 -> Poetics to 240 -> crafted to 290 -> then it slows a lot, alternating Centurios, Yellow Scrips, and group dungeon runs to cap. I estimate BSM would take as long as GSM & LTW combined, maybe more. isk fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Jun 18, 2019 |
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BSM is the loving worst thing to desynth and through all of stormblood it hasn't come close to breaking even, especially compared to wvr and gsm. Maybe crp is worse but I can imagine they're both just god awful.
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sudo rm -rf posted:also is there any reason i shouldn't buy the ff14 complete edition on steam? it has the base game and stormblood Just buy the base game for $20 and if you decide to stick with it buy Shadowbringers for $40 which contains all the expansions. If you buy the complete version now you will end up spending $100 to get everything.
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Jun 18, 2019 00:47
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:BSM is the loving worst thing to desynth and through all of stormblood it hasn't come close to breaking even, especially compared to wvr and gsm. It's slightly better since some jewelry is CRP, but yes it still hurts and the returns at cap are low
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:BSM is the loving worst thing to desynth and through all of stormblood it hasn't come close to breaking even, especially compared to wvr and gsm. Wvr sucks too though is the thing. At least through stormblood most of the drops are gsm and ltw. I'll admit I didn't ditch cul for wvr until around 4.3 but my wvr still lags behind at 350 while gsm and ltw hit 370.
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Jun 18, 2019 00:55
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Tainen posted:Just buy the base game for $20 and if you decide to stick with it buy Shadowbringers for $40 which contains all the expansions. thanks, i'll do this
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Jun 18, 2019 01:00
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Other than being able to desynth dungeon gear from your daily expert roulette is there any actual use for high level desynth? It was super useful in HW because you could get Glass Fiber from scrip gear & FC3s were in high demand but I don't think the same was true in SB? I didn't play for most of the expansion so I probably missed something. Obviously ShB desynth could be a gold mine like HW was at some points.
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sudo rm -rf posted:thanks, i'll do this
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aers posted:Other than being able to desynth dungeon gear from your daily expert roulette is there any actual use for high level desynth? It was super useful in HW because you could get Glass Fiber from scrip gear & FC3s were in high demand but I don't think the same was true in SB? I didn't play for most of the expansion so I probably missed something. Depends on if you're getting poo poo worth desynthing (duh, but BSM isn't really gonna be worth it if you aren't getting lots of weapon drops from, say, primals, for example) For SB I think the big one was being able to get Stormsap from the alliance raid gear, meaning if you were running it a lot you could potentially make a fortune off a material that was otherwise capped by daily quests. Right now I think you can make a lot from desynthing primal weapons since a lot of the crafting mats from Heavensward and a few SB primals sell for a ton; scales from Nidhogg and Shinryu both go for almost a million very consistently and most of the other mats are up there anywhere from a million to half a million gil as well. Good chance that prices and demand goes up for Stormblood primal crafting mats if they add glowy versions of their weapons again.
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aers posted:Other than being able to desynth dungeon gear from your daily expert roulette is there any actual use for high level desynth? It was super useful in HW because you could get Glass Fiber from scrip gear & FC3s were in high demand but I don't think the same was true in SB? I didn't play for most of the expansion so I probably missed something. Well the glass fiber market crashed once you could buy them with GC seals. We'll see if desynth has anything similar that's required for high level recipes.
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Minrad posted:Depends on if you're getting poo poo worth desynthing (duh, but BSM isn't really gonna be worth it if you aren't getting lots of weapon drops from, say, primals, for example) Mastercraft Materia for GC seals says otherwise  But you only need ARR level BSM desynth for that and the big money is in the new hotness of Primal Weapons usually.
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sudo rm -rf posted:also is there any reason i shouldn't buy the ff14 complete edition on steam? it has the base game and stormblood Bless you for asking before pulling the trigger. You're locked into buying all your future expansions through Steam, and can never take advantage of the steeply ramping discounts that happen shortly before and after an expansion launch. Furthermore, it has been indicated by the devs in the future (and through datamined login strings) that current Steam-purchased copies of the game will be forced to log in to Steam in order to fire up the launcher to punch in your password and authenticator code.
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Did they mention anything about extra character slots what with the new races?
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Verranicus posted:Did they mention anything about extra character slots what with the new races? "Please pay $10 for a Fantasia" or "Please make a character on a less-congested server"
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There's no way they're ever going over the what is it, eight slots for characters. It just doesn't make sense with how the game works.
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Kwyndig posted:There's no way they're ever going over the what is it, eight slots for characters. It just doesn't make sense with how the game works. Especially with world visit.
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isk posted:You might have a different experience than I did, but nowdays it's possible to directly spend almost no gil if you're reasonably patient, willing to gather crafting/Scrip mats, and diligent about daily Hunts/Poetics. Opportunity cost might be higher. 0-150 is easy since it's crafted stuff & solo dungeon/Coil runs, then it's solo Fractal runs to ~170 -> Centurios & Red Scrips to ~220 -> Poetics to 240 -> crafted to 290 -> then it slows a lot, alternating Centurios, Yellow Scrips, and group dungeon runs to cap. I estimate BSM would take as long as GSM & LTW combined, maybe more.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch8MzYclx5I Though honestly now that I've got several relics on light step and thus no good dump for poetics/seals anymore, I'll probably just take your advice and start funneling that into desynthesis in the long term rather than worrying about speed leveling all the way to 300 at this point, because I can already see that's gonna lead to a serious financial hole in my pocket if I go for it.
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Minrad posted:
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Now's probably the time to stock up on Tinker's Calm, since everyone chain running Syrcus has sent the price of Catalysts plummeting.
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My wife and I have been screwing around with BLU a little bit lately and she has been walking me through dungeons to grab spells. Can a 70 BRD (and a 50 BLU with just under half the spell book filled) handle HM/EX trials for spells or should we ask for help?
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Minrad posted:Depends on if you're getting poo poo worth desynthing (duh, but BSM isn't really gonna be worth it if you aren't getting lots of weapon drops from, say, primals, for example) Ah yeah, okay. I never really thought about BSM (I have WVR/LTW/GSM right now like a lot of people), dunno what I'd drop for it to do weapons.
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Albu-quirky Guy posted:My wife and I have been screwing around with BLU a little bit lately and she has been walking me through dungeons to grab spells. Can a 70 BRD (and a 50 BLU with just under half the spell book filled) handle HM/EX trials for spells or should we ask for help? If you're 390+ on the BRD you should be fine for everything except Ramuh EX, though you might be skirting by on quite a bit of white wind spam from the BLU. I can solo all of those except Ramuh as SMN, though even Ramuh I can get by using SCH.
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You can get Shock Strike from Ramuh Hard, so that'll be simple with a unsynched 70.
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Albu-quirky Guy posted:My wife and I have been screwing around with BLU a little bit lately and she has been walking me through dungeons to grab spells. Can a 70 BRD (and a 50 BLU with just under half the spell book filled) handle HM/EX trials for spells or should we ask for help? See if you can draft a couple other level 50 BLUs.
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aers posted:Other than being able to desynth dungeon gear from your daily expert roulette is there any actual use for high level desynth? It was super useful in HW because you could get Glass Fiber from scrip gear & FC3s were in high demand but I don't think the same was true in SB? I didn't play for most of the expansion so I probably missed something. You can get primal crafting components like Nidhogg/Shinryu scales through desynth
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Mulva posted:When I whipped out the low level monk and started doing some combos it was like I saw the face of god, the giant dork just flipping his limbs all around like he's trying to kill everyone else and himself. I made the right choice. Male Elezen are dorks who try too hard to look cool and mostly fail, and female Elezen are pretty much overly-excitable nerds. And I love it.  Unless you're playing a tank, where they actually look pretty badass. Or NIN, where they really look like flailing noodles. Also, with desynth, I think (correct me if I'm wrong) the 4.0 crafter/gatherer gear required components you could only get from desynthesis? If 5.0 is the same, and you pick the right desynth job to level, you can probably make a pile of money that way.
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Vermain posted:Now's probably the time to stock up on Tinker's Calm, since everyone chain running Syrcus has sent the price of Catalysts plummeting. You can even get extra catalysts from desynthing Syrcus Tower drops!  I'm still trying to get the full Phlegethon's set before ShB launch. I'll at least have enough mogtomes for a Pegasus by the time it drops, I think. Also... I really hope Amon's Hat is one of the 500+ head items the devs carefully crafted for Hrothgar/Viera. It's too iconic to be left behind like so many other headslot items.
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Leofish posted:You can even get extra catalysts from desynthing Syrcus Tower drops! I doubt it, since none of the head-covering helmets in the ShB AF gear even work. It seems almost like a stylistic choice to only let them wear circlets/glasses and the like.
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I just noticed they added a new EU server with the maintenance and I've got a question - since moving a character to a new world seems to be free, would it be a smart move considering the upcoming expansion launch? My character is currently on a legacy server but I've got nothing keeping me there, and my first thought was that the login queues might get real bad for a while. Then again, perhaps new servers get enough transfers that the same could be a problem there? I've never played during an expansion launch in FFXIV so I've got no idea. 
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Your Computer posted:I just noticed they added a new EU server with the maintenance and I've got a question - since moving a character to a new world seems to be free, would it be a smart move considering the upcoming expansion launch? My character is currently on a legacy server but I've got nothing keeping me there, and my first thought was that the login queues might get real bad for a while. Then again, perhaps new servers get enough transfers that the same could be a problem there? I've never played during an expansion launch in FFXIV so I've got no idea. If queues are your concern, you can use world visit to temporarily log in and out of a less congested server. Come to Omega if you're on EU!
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Your Computer posted:I just noticed they added a new EU server with the maintenance and I've got a question - since moving a character to a new world seems to be free, would it be a smart move considering the upcoming expansion launch? My character is currently on a legacy server but I've got nothing keeping me there, and my first thought was that the login queues might get real bad for a while. Then again, perhaps new servers get enough transfers that the same could be a problem there? I've never played during an expansion launch in FFXIV so I've got no idea. One thing to keep in mind with a brand new server is that if you want a house and don't already have one; this is a good shot at getting one.
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Adept Nightingale posted:I doubt it, since none of the head-covering helmets in the ShB AF gear even work. It seems almost like a stylistic choice to only let them wear circlets/glasses and the like. A man can dream.
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Stormgale posted:If queues are your concern, you can use world visit to temporarily log in and out of a less congested server. Maguoob posted:One thing to keep in mind with a brand new server is that if you want a house and don't already have one; this is a good shot at getting one. 
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Your Computer posted:oh, that actually works? I guess it's kinda possible for the players to balance out the queues themselves then, that's pretty neat! Is there an overview anywhere of how congested the different servers are? You'll need to queue the first time to log onto your main server, but while you are visting you log in/out of the server you are visiting so you use their queues. (Note some functionality is disabled while visiting like retainers and some chat channels but you can do all the content and quests while visiting)
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Also, login queues are per datacenter as far as I know. Also also, definitely get on Omega if you're playing on EU.
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I'm trying to get Mimesis Lux for my Summoner because giant gaudy dragon wing book is entirely my jam. What's the most efficient way to get Sand?
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