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endlessmonotony posted:Yes. Anything physically impossible will immediately trip their cheater alarm. Screw it then. This whole thing looks extremely complicated anyway.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:So if I set up a new account on my old phone and do all the spoofing stuff, is Niantic going to get wise if I start trading all these regional and rare pokemon to my regular account? Depends on how careful you are about it? Certainly if you catch them and immediately trade them, but if you do a bunch of poo poo in (other continent), don't touch the account for a bit and then boot it up again without the spoofing and trade stuff then you're probably good to go. There's a chart of time/distance of "cooldown between actions" that caps out at 2 hours, but generally Niantic is going after the people making the apps more than the people spoofing except in cases where they can completely positively detect the spoofing app or they'd be banning people for taking cross-country flights accidentally all the time, and I've never heard of someone getting banned for trading with a spoofer.
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Jun 19, 2019 04:58
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Hit level 40  also I can confirm that becoming level 40 immediately gives you access to the stop nomination option (if you're in a nation with access to that). Also, I got four lucky eggs?
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Jun 19, 2019 05:25
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I'm just going to trade for as many regionals as I can since I've been too poor to travel for quite a while, I've picked up a decent amount of shinies to use as trade bait. My two major concerns are that I'm out of Sinnoh Stones with 8-10 more evolutions left and that even with the bonus on adventure week I only have 25 Gible candy
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Manoueverable posted:I'm just going to trade for as many regionals as I can since I've been too poor to travel for quite a while, I've picked up a decent amount of shinies to use as trade bait. Battle friends every day if you can, that's my source of Sinnoh stones. If I remember to do it I have a pretty steady stream of them.
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Jun 19, 2019 06:03
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If you're gonna spoof with one account, wait like a day before you trade poo poo to your main.
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Prop Wash posted:Hit level 40 Prop Wash posted:Also, I got four lucky eggs? :niantic:
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HookShot posted:Some of us actually went to Africa to get our Tropius
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Admiral Joeslop posted:So if I set up a new account on my old phone and do all the spoofing stuff, is Niantic going to get wise if I start trading all these regional and rare pokemon to my regular account? I literally have my account named mainnamealt with friend nickname of "alt' and they don't seem to care. I'm sure I could get banned eventually but doubt it. If you really did care you can just not have obvious names like that and for all they know it's a local player who traveled and traded with you Plus, the "physically impossible " thing isn't really any barrier and I don't understand what endlessmotony means. I would go to a new region each 24 hours, which is easily doable on any plane. The spoofing cooldown is 2hrs and I never once hit it , even though I've hit it multiple times when playing normally on my normal account and just getting weird gps poo poo happen without trying. Basically the method is day 1: Edmonton for pachi, day 2: orlando for carvinine+corsola, day 3: Johannesburg for tropius, day 4: Auckland docks for chatot+relicanth , day 5: come home and do one special trade, etc . There's nothing physically impossible about any of those steps Same with gible hunting, bouncing between NYC and Singapore is possible with a bunch of tricks like keeping the catch screen open, but why bother with that when you can just check each region before/after work, go there, get one guy, close the game til 12 hours later mastershakeman fucked around with this message at 12:36 on Jun 19, 2019 |
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Jun 19, 2019 12:32
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just because Niantic doesn't have someone manually reading every single username and friend description doesn't mean that they don't care or won't crack down in the future
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flatluigi posted:just because Niantic doesn't have someone manually reading every single username and friend description doesn't mean that they don't care or won't crack down in the future Correct. And it'll be super funny if a year from now I get banned and so does everyone who ever made a trade for a regional where they couldn't verify flight tickets from whoever they traded with
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Apparently there was a Kyogre raid hour tonight, but I didn't get home until halfway through, and by then a combination of dark, cold, tired, and very slow flu recovery meant I couldn't be hosed, so I guess I missed out on a shiny?
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NTRabbit posted:Apparently there was a Kyogre raid hour tonight, but I didn't get home until halfway through, and by then a combination of dark, cold, tired, and very slow flu recovery meant I couldn't be hosed, so I guess I missed out on a shiny? he's here for a few more days, so you haven't missed out entirely, just during the dinner hour I think.
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Jun 19, 2019 14:19
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Kyogre is the main T5 right now, the raid hour just guarantees they spawn at basically every gym. There's another raid hour next Wednesday that's still Kyogre, same time. Plus any other T5 raids that have the exact same shiny chance on them.
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Jun 19, 2019 14:22
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Sounds like I should make a trip to bigger Texas city to catch the big guy. In other news, when I completed a string of field quests I had an encounter with Lugia. Are they always legendaries? Can they run? I used golden raspberries with ultra balls to be on the safe side, but if it was wasteful I'd like to know for next time. The real prize was a Sinnoh seed, so I look forward to evolving Mismagius
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Jun 19, 2019 14:33
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Every day you complete a field research task (by tapping it once it turns orange), you get a stamp. Get 7 stamps, you get items and an encounter. What the encounter can be has changed a few times, but has usually been legendaries (Current pool until at least the end of June is Lugia, Ho-oh, Latios, and Latias). They can't run, but being legendaries, their absurdly low catch rates still apply, so don't feel bad using berry and ultra if you don't feel like throwing 20+ regular balls at it (unless you feel really lucky).
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Vegastar posted:So it turns out that Tropius is pretty goddamned insane in the current Silph pvp cup. Anybody around here have access to wild spawns? Spoofing for your own private collection is one thing, it doesn't affect anybody else. Spoofing to get an edge in a PVP competition against other players? You're the rear end in a top hat.
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NZAmoeba posted:Spoofing for your own private collection is one thing, it doesn't affect anybody else. This thread has a very uneasy peace between the regular people and the weird obsessives, please don't break the peace
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NZAmoeba posted:Spoofing for your own private collection is one thing, it doesn't affect anybody else. I mean, it's not actually allowed in the cup anyway. But also this is how absolutely lovely pvp meta actually is. The guy that won the first season in Chicago had a loving Blaziken with stone edge and blaze kick. Stone edge was only a legal move on Blaziken for like, 18 hours after it was released before it got legacied. Relicanth and Heracross are also quite good as pvp mons. The gently caress else are you supposed to do to combat the other people that have them? Communities do what I was describing above, creating a burner account, exchanging the creds internationally to catch a bunch of regionals, then logging in back home and trading them around. Niantic is too head up rear end in a top hat stupid to understand their own systems, and basically encourage multiaccounting and spoofing with every mechanic they add, and if you're actually competing at pvp it's basically a requirement. Otherwise the time you spend to build a team will be utterly wasted by the 8 other people that don't have any qualms with getting those species by any means necessary. I have no idea why I even play this dumpster fire half the time. It's gotta be one of the most abusive relationships I've had with a video game. Set a goal, work to accomplish it, run face first in to a rock solid wall of horrible game design, then get up and do it over and over again. Vegastar fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Jun 19, 2019 |
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With Fyred Meyre back in raids I just want to state how much I loving hate the waterfall / blizzard moveset.
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ugh i hate that there are double candies because now i feel obligated to do kyogre raids. i fuckin HATE trying to catch kyogre.
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Vegastar posted:I have no idea why I even play this dumpster fire half the time. It's gotta be one of the most abusive relationships I've had with a video game. Set a goal, work to accomplish it, run face first in to a rock solid wall of horrible game design, then get up and do it over and over again. Maybe don't play a game you don't enjoy?  I play it because the community's been great and it gets us out and moving and exploring the neighborhood. Niantic makes really dumb decisions at times but overall I'm glad the game exists.
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Vegastar posted:Niantic is too head up rear end in a top hat stupid to understand their own systems, and basically encourage multiaccounting and spoofing with every mechanic they add, and if you're actually competing at pvp it's basically a requirement. Otherwise the time you spend to build a team will be utterly wasted by the 8 other people that don't have any qualms with getting those species by any means necessary. "I cheat because I assume everyone else is a cheater like me" is the justification every cheater uses.
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HookShot posted:Some of us actually went to Africa to get our Tropius At Go Fest, I traded a Gible for a low CP Tropius from a guy from Japan who went to the event where they were spawning a lot.
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NZAmoeba posted:Spoofing for your own private collection is one thing, it doesn't affect anybody else. Counterpoint: regionals are a dumb bad mechanic that should be circumvented whenever possible
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I assume pachirisu was the pogo regional because all of 5 players live in places where it can be caught normally
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Chairman Mao posted:Counterpoint: regionals are a dumb bad mechanic that should be circumvented whenever possible I feel like they’re an OK mechanic but not great but become really bad when one becomes necessary for PvP? As-is though they do seem sort of like something invented by a bunch of people who don’t know anyone without a passport.
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tildes posted:I feel like theyre an OK mechanic but not great but become really bad when one becomes necessary for PvP? As-is though they do seem sort of like something invented by a bunch of people who dont know anyone without a passport. That's basically my take on it. As a collectable bragging status thing, sure, but trying to be a game with an active PvP scene that requires "being physically present in other countries, or having other people who play be in other countries, to pick up the current best-meta toolset" is something that's dumb if you spend any more than 5 seconds thinking about it and imagining it in any other popular pvp game's scene is hilarious to think about 
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:That's basically my take on it. As a collectable bragging status thing, sure, but trying to be a game with an active PvP scene that requires "being physically present in other countries, or having other people who play be in other countries, to pick up the current best-meta toolset" is something that's dumb if you spend any more than 5 seconds thinking about it and imagining it in any other popular pvp game's scene is hilarious to think about It's so much worse than just that. Since the cp formula is so heavily slanted toward attack, your optimal IV spreads are typically 0/15/15 or so because its worth 3-4 levels of powering up to have that 0 attack IV value. Then weather, trading, raids, eggs and quests all completely ruin that. So now you have a situation like alola Marowak who's quite good and has a unique typing, but the only way to get one is to raid it. So now you have to trade alolwaks to try to optimize, but only with good friends because great, ultra and best all guarantee some floor of IVs. You can get away with great, maybe. Then you consider things like Mew and Jirachi, which are one-off encounters that you can never reroll stats for or roll back if you made the mistake of powering it, but are also important to a number of type metas. Then on top of all of that you get the legacy movesets and community day exclusive moves that can't be obtained or reobtained outside a single encore event held last December for 3 days. On top of all that, second move costs can go as high as 100k dust on top of the spend requirement to power up and the general absurdity of maxing out things like sableye and medicham, and you're talking about putting in a week or two of work to power up a pvp pokemon. It's absolutely abhorrent design and you'd have to be some kind of idiot masochist with a sunk-time complex to get involved with it. Edit: and don't even get me started on the rarity of tms, the requirement to raid to get them and the heavy rng of using it after all the work required to even get one. Vegastar fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Jun 19, 2019 |
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Why would anyone care about pvp Also in all seriousness isn't there supposed to be enough of a rock paper scissors thing that predicting your opponent should make all that way less important? Or does the second charge move that you can just roll with the 3 optimal things and be pretty much unbeatable?
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There's literally nothing else to do. PvP is all kinds of hosed, Power Up Punch and Acid Spray are everywhere since they give you so much benefit for such little work and the top mons are also the hardest to get, thank god they've mostly got banned. This Rainbow Cup has Charizard as the best Pokemon to use, but only if it has Blast Burn, which has only been obtainable twice, BEFORE PvP came out. If you don't have one below 1500, you gotta trade and hope you don't get good IVs or lucky or whatever. It's as halfbaked as every other mechanic in the game.
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So why not use max cp ones instead of this silly sub 1500 trade thing
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mastershakeman posted:Why would anyone care about pvp The switch timer is something ridiculously long like 30 or 45 seconds, so you can't just swap around to cover weaknesses at will. Basically the way it shakes out, moves are most important, species next, and optimal IVs last. But yeah, this coming Jungle cup is normal/grass/bug/electric and Vigoroth is going to dominate the gently caress out of it because there's basically nothing else with a worthwhile fighting move to check it unless you're rolling Heracross, another pain in the rear end regional. Also Forretress is gonna be a huge problem because there's no way to get fire in to exploit weakness, so you have to just neutral damage powerhouse through him with noctowl or heracross or something similar. mastershakeman posted:So why not use max cp ones instead of this silly sub 1500 trade thing Most pvp is done in Great league, which is the 1500cp cap league, because it makes for the most interesting metas. Ultra and master are way less diverse and interesting.
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mastershakeman posted:So why not use max cp ones instead of this silly sub 1500 trade thing Because the meta for that is effectively set in stone based on existing CP caps/movesets and only budges at all (if ever) when new pokemon/moves are introduced, and frequently not even then because most of them CP cap so low that they're still not worth thinking about
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https://mobile.twitter.com/jkass99/status/1141005193019924480
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Finally, a chance to capture Tropius!
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mastershakeman posted:The reward is half distance eggs, because it's the only way we're ever going to get cherubis or gibles that doesn't involve spending a fortune on incubators or spoofing to NYC/van/Singapore using their maps Speak for yourself my man, I must have hatched like forty goddamn 10k eggs since his release and that little fucker still wont hatch 
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Ok TIL it’s pretty much strictly better to just go to places nearby where spoofers hang out than try to do any actual raids myself or organize a group. Any at all worthwhile raid gets filled up to the max count basically every time even halfway through its timer. Also amazing how different (better it seems) your Pokémon go life is when you live in rich touristy city vs not so much city like fifteen minutes away.
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:Because the meta for that is effectively set in stone based on existing CP caps/movesets and only budges at all (if ever) when new pokemon/moves are introduced, and frequently not even then because most of them CP cap so low that they're still not worth thinking about The other problem with Ultra and Master is you keep increasing the amount of Pokemon that need to be maxed out to be viable. So the Dust and Candy cost goes way up (and it's already often pretty high for Great League). You also keep adding more Legendaries, which makes that problem even worse (Because of Candy unavailability and the huge cost of extra moves on Legendaries). You could eliminate some of the homogeneity doing type and specific restrictions (the theme cups already do this for Great League), but the above problem remains the biggest one, because Dust payouts are too low compared to how much powering things up costs.
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