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CaptainPsyko posted:Holy loving poo poo was about to post this, what is even happening https://twitter.com/GregJKrieg/status/1141143662874812416
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the Times is still capable of trotting out some good endorsements on a fairly regular basis. this is still a little bit of a surprise given how different Caban is compared to the rest of the fielduncurable mlady posted:yall think weed'll pass? cuomo was on npr up here saying that he thinks it'll get done but idk
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Interesting. The only angle I know about that in New York is financial - the weed capitalists want a public bank because the existing locals are too small and the larger ones would endanger their federal charter. I'm curious if the stalling on public bank work has thrown a wrench in that.
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Tulip posted:Interesting. that being said, i'd like to see it talked up next year
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Barry Convex posted:was about to post this, what is even happening welp looks like i'm voting for malik
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the only way public banking will work is if it's federal and basically a post office bank but people already hate the usps for stupid reasons and it'll be yet another thing to target the usps for. we even had post office savings 50 years ago 
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support your local credit union as long as they aren't fee harvesting scumbags.
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good luck finding the unicorn credit union that will take you if you're not already a member of something, thoughMalcolm XML posted:the only way public banking will work is if it's federal and basically a post office bank but people already hate the usps for stupid reasons and it'll be yet another thing to target the usps for.
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That’s interesting. I think Warren was big on postal banking a few years ago.
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get that OUT of my face posted:
I'm in this campaign. It's moving up in priority but housing was taking up nearly all our energy due to legislative urgency. Sanders is on board and he's the most powerful wrt this project, trouble is that the lobbyists are all capitalists right now and Cuomo is trying to engineer a public bank staffed by his friends from Goldman etc. So we want to move fast enough to keep the left wing momentum, but in such a way that we sand bag Cuomo out of what he wants. A comical part of this is that there's a contingent that wants a NYC-only bank, and what's funny is that the city government is more conservative on this front than the state, AND they're way less able to affect spending, so it's just a huge waste of time and really inane bickering over implementation. Malcolm XML posted:the only way public banking will work is if it's federal and basically a post office bank but people already hate the usps for stupid reasons and it'll be yet another thing to target the usps for. North Dakota currently has a state public bank. There's really not much reason that a state can't do it, and the biggest issue (political will) is a bigger problem at the federal level. That said, postal banking is kind of interesting in that I'm pretty sure the post office can just DO it. Their union is pushing for it, but it's stalled for like nearly a year.
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Tulip posted:
not only can they just do it, they did it from 1911 to 1966
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Tulip posted:I'm in this campaign. It's moving up in priority but housing was taking up nearly all our energy due to legislative urgency.
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GalacticAcid posted:not only can they just do it, they did it from 1911 to 1966 I mean, my understanding is that the laws are such that they don't need congress to reauthorize. It's just 1) local consent 2) post master general. PMG is currently still an Obama appointment (apparently nobody really did a good job of spelling out how to end a PMG other than resign or die), but I'm losing faith that that matters. get that OUT of my face posted:i said this before but i'm glad that the rent laws are permanent for this exact reason  Main competition for labor resources are now m4a and electoral, but tbh the electoral labor is non fungible so whatever.
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Boy did the centrists pick a bad thing to fence sit on, they're gonna get it for not pushing weed
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Grondoth posted:Boy did the centrists pick a bad thing to fence sit on, they're gonna get it for not pushing weed by the way, a special "gently caress you" to Diane Savino on this issue (among others). she was one of the Senate's loudest voices to expand the medicinal weed program and legalize it for recreational use, but when it wasn't included in the budget, she threw up her hands and gave up
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lol legal weed failed for you guys
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god the Democratic machine loving sucks https://twitter.com/lbarronlopez/status/1141447029111033856
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Barry Convex posted:god the Democratic machine loving sucks ... what lol
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Does a borough president have any official power or responsibility? "You didn't ask the borough president what they thought" seems bizarre. They didn't ask Mr Softee either.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Does a borough president have any official power or responsibility? "You didn't ask the borough president what they thought" seems bizarre. They didn't ask Mr Softee either. They have some minor power over zoning issues but mostly no. That said, the issue isn’t “you didn’t talk to the Borough President” - the Borough President is Melinda Katz, the rival candidate that Meeks et al are endorsing! - the issue is, ostensibly, “these white people from out of state are endorsing a different candidate from us, all of the local black elected officials”.
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get that OUT of my face posted:considering that the "centrists" you're talking about are mainly based in Long Island, no, they definitely won't "get it." the suburban mentality there is powerful and all of the LI Dems embody it (i know that i defended Thomas earlier ITT but at the end of the day, he's still the cream of the crap). only a handful of counties in the state wanted to opt out of legal weed and two of them were Nassau and Suffolk. they have another year to do it and do it right, but given their continued reluctance i wouldn't give it good odds Oh. Well gently caress Been seeing and hearing a lotta "divers liscences for illegals but no WEED???" outta people, which makes me wonder a lot about how this didn't get through cause this isn't a very big political risk. I guess the calculus is way different than I thought.
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Barry Convex posted:god the Democratic machine loving sucks Grondoth posted:Oh. Well gently caress As for licenses? I assume they had more time to hash things out. The last-ditch legalization bill in both chambers was announced a couple of days ago, and this was probably introduced much earlier than that.
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get that OUT of my face posted:When it comes to weed, Peoples-Stokes and a lot of urban Democrats in the Assembly wanted stronger protections for people formerly incarcerated for weed-related charges, as well as some percentage of the money made to go back into communities that have historically been heavily prosecuted in the past. I'm gonna guess that the gap between them and the Senate was way too much to close in a couple of days. I guess they passed further decriminalization measures but who cares. Oh, that makes a lot of sense and I'm not surprised there's sticking points there. More or less everyone wants legal weed, but addressing the systemic injustices carried out in banning it for as long as we have is a much bigger task. I apologize for barging in here and saying uninformed things. Not every thread is the trump thread.
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Grondoth posted:Oh, that makes a lot of sense and I'm not surprised there's sticking points there. More or less everyone wants legal weed, but addressing the systemic injustices carried out in banning it for as long as we have is a much bigger task.
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get that OUT of my face posted:the New York machine is loathsome but incompetent. it's worse in New Jersey because they run a much tighter ship and have politics that are just as lovely. they have a much better governor though Hello from across the Hudson: Murphy is an incompetent moron who bought his governorship and is very likely to get tossed out on his rear end by a mega succ dem (sweeney) next election.
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Lawman 0 posted:Hello from across the Hudson: Murphy is an incompetent moron who bought his governorship and is very likely to get tossed out on his rear end by a mega succ dem (sweeney) next election.
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oh my god haha https://twitter.com/aptaube/status/1141934768214466560?s=21
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i don't know what media euphemism i hate more: "controversial" or calling something "charged" also, the DN didn't endorse Katz, they endorsed Lasak (who is even worse). idk why they'd print that on behalf of someone they didn't endorse
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get that OUT of my face posted:i don't know what media euphemism i hate more: "controversial" or calling something "charged" lol that's Lasak? He was hilariously terrible in the debate, still yelling about monsters and protecting er' cops in 2019.
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https://twitter.com/RoryLancman/status/1142091531232395266 Lancman previously had run as the other progressive in the race, compared himself to Larry Krasner, and attacked Katz from the left don't trust anyone who takes real estate money and supports anti-BDS legislation
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my friend told me there was a rumor Lancman was dropping out. he's right, he probably had no shot of winning. Caban took all the wind out of his sails as far as NYC and Queens dems go, he's not half bad, but i don't consider him to be that qualified for DA because it's different than other elected positiona
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