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Working smarter, not harder.
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To be honest, that's one of the few legit uses of a Segway I've ever seen.
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Phanatic posted:Lots of times when cops are involved and there's strong political pressure to appear to be Doing Something, a DA can get an indictment and then just punt. He's just charging for political appearances, he's not vigorously prosecuting a cop who broke the law. Then the jury finds the cop not guilty and the city can shrug and say to people "Well, we tried, take it up with the jury" even though they really didn't. But in this case even a DA who vigorously prosecutes these charges isn't on good ground. Here's the arrest warrant: My favorite is when the DA prosecutes the cop in an intentionally incorrect charge, the defense requests and is granted a motion to dismiss, and the DA says "welp, our bad, sorry but we can't try again due to double jeopardy laws too bad"
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Volmarias posted:My favorite is when the DA prosecutes the cop in an intentionally incorrect charge, the defense requests and is granted a motion to dismiss, and the DA says "welp, our bad, sorry but we can't try again due to double jeopardy laws too bad" That's not how double jeopardy works.
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Proteus Jones posted:That's not how double jeopardy works. Edit: here we are, I misremembered slightly. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-chicago-police-detective-manslaughter-trial-0421-met-20150420-story.html quote:Judge Dennis Porter ruled that prosecutors failed to prove that Dante Servin acted recklessly, saying that Illinois courts have consistently held that anytime an individual points a gun at an intended victim and shoots, it is an intentional act, not a reckless one. He all but said prosecutors should have charged Servin with murder, not involuntary manslaughter. Volmarias fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Jun 21, 2019 |
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Jun 21, 2019 19:02
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That's a statement from the defense attorney tho, they'll say anything. Like this one saying the 11 year old his client raped and gave chlamydia to was catfishing his client and therefore deserved it. Edit: wait, why are we discussing this in the osha thread? duz fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Jun 21, 2019 |
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Jun 21, 2019 19:24
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duz posted:Edit: wait, why are we discussing this in the osha thread? Cops are always a threat to your workplace.
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Jun 21, 2019 19:38
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I'm genuinely impressed! Also, this thread's had ACAB derails before and they just wind up with probs, bans, and mods telling everyone to knock it off. Let's get ahead of that this time.
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Jun 21, 2019 19:53
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Working sma- Yawgmoth posted:Working smarter, not harder. Damnit!
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Kibayasu posted:Working sma- Post faster not last....er.
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That is truly cyberpunk.
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With sound. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stjrkrxmLgk
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So do you think they'll put the fire out soon or do they have to let it linger
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Kesper North posted:or do they have to let it linger In every possible way.
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Kesper North posted:So do you think they'll put the fire out soon or do they have to let it linger I don't think they can "let" it do anything.
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Kesper North posted:So do you think they'll put the fire out soon or do they have to let it linger Seems like they're having troubles
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spankmeister posted:Seems like they're having troubles drat
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spankmeister posted:Seems like they're having troubles This is a deep cut.
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Proteus Jones posted:That's not how double jeopardy works. Isn't it based on how it was dismissed? Like dismissed with prejudice is the judge saying "don't come back" and it'd be double jeopardy, and dismissed without prejudice is "your case is dumb come back when you've got something stronger"?
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Azhais posted:Isn't it based on how it was dismissed? Like dismissed with prejudice is the judge saying "don't come back" and it'd be double jeopardy, and dismissed without prejudice is "your case is dumb come back when you've got something stronger"? That's not even the same type of law! You're thinking civil law, which is lawsuits. Double jeopardy means you can't be tried for the same crime more than once. It's to prevent harassment of people by the government by repeatedly arresting someone and forcing them on trial, which could be used to keep them imprisoned indefinitely if you want by just going back and trying them again for what they were arrested and imprisoned before trial for. You get one shot at proving someone guilty, then that's all. There are a number of exceptions, though. Multiple sovereign entities can prosecute someone for the same crime; if you get declared not guilty by a state court, the feds can put you on trial again and vice versa. You can also obviously be retried if you got acquitted because you bribed the judge and a soldier acquitted by a civilian court for a crime can still be court martialed.
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Can't wait for the USCSB video and an episode of the Causality podcast on this one.
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Kibayasu posted:Working sma- It’s also in the title of the Imgur page.
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chitoryu12 posted:That's not even the same type of law! You're thinking civil law, which is lawsuits. And this also means that the elements of the crime need to be unique. Like, if you prosecute someone for murder because of his actions, and he's found not guilty, you cannot then decide to charge him a second time with the lesser charge of manslaughter for the same actions. quote:There are a number of exceptions, though. Multiple sovereign entities can prosecute someone for the same crime; if you get declared not guilty by a state court, the feds can put you on trial again and vice versa. This used to be something that rarely came up, because the Federal government had relatively few criminal statutes. Now there are so many Federal laws that it's unlikely an act that violated state law didn't also violate something the Feds can charge you with if they're sufficiently motivated. A SC case just upheld this separate sovereigns doctrine, and Ginsburg and Gorsuch were the only dissents. quote:You can also obviously be retried if you got acquitted because you bribed the judge Because in such a case you were never really in jeopardy in the first place, it was just a sham trial.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SeI_BpAfr8 The number of times these guys do something stupid (or start wondering aloud if they just did something potentially lethal because they don't know how any chemicals actually react) is terrifying. I love it. What would be the fumes they breathed in from the mixing process?
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Phanatic posted:And this also means that the elements of the crime need to be unique. Like, if you prosecute someone for murder because of his actions, and he's found not guilty, you cannot then decide to charge him a second time with the lesser charge of manslaughter for the same actions. This here is also why you have DA's agonizing over whether to charge with Murder or Manslaughter. We can definitively prove manslaughter, but getting a conviction on the full "homicide" is flimsy at best, but man, a conviction for murder would look wayyyyy better than just manslaughter, but, also, if we don't get it, that's it. We can definitely get manslaughter, but the punishment won't be as severe, should we just Hail Mary it for the murder? - A DA. Probably.
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Platystemon posted:It’s also in the title of the Imgur page.
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chitoryu12 posted:That's not even the same type of law! You're thinking civil law, which is lawsuits. Also a mistrial allows for a new trial.
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Yawgmoth posted:Let the record show that I thought of that incredibly clever post without looking at the imgur page, mostly because imgur is where people go to post when they've been banned from 4chan and reddit. Imgur is where people think it is a social media site and don't realize that imgur is an image host
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LifeSunDeath posted:My official doctrine: You have impeccable taste. 4 words: Streets of Rage Remake
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I know this is a year old, but im just reading threw this thread now. I worked on a Walmart reno crew, what they are using to move that counter is called a scorpion, it's purpose built to do exactly what they are doing. its got some cast metal support bars that clamp onto the uprights, run underneath to support it. Theres one for every upright. A set of wheels is then put on each side, on each support and a ratchet is used to jack it up off of the ground and just on the skates. Then you can push that poo poo every where, 2 people could have moved that counter if it was going the other direction. The only reason they have a person on each handle, is so the thing moves straight and doesnt buckle. Seriously, for moving a counter, they are the poo poo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQaj96QWr0o
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That’s not a counter, though?  I can recall one counter I’ve been to that wasn’t permanently attached to the floor, and that’s because it’s a boutique that the proprietor brings to conventions.
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OSHA AF. Hearing protection and all.  Edit: I have no clue how to in-line this clip. Sorry.
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Officer CockKnuckle posted:I know this is a year old, but im just reading threw this thread now. Okay, but why? I mean, wouldn't it be easier to just unstock the shelves, then dissemble them and then move it? It seems like a product that is created solely just for a problem that they've made up.
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Luckyellow posted:Okay, but why? I mean, wouldn't it be easier to just unstock the shelves, then dissemble them and then move it? It seems like a product that is created solely just for a problem that they've made up. Ya ever built one of those shelves and stocked/restocked it? I have. It’s days of multiple people. Making minimum wage grant you, but it makes your store look like poo poo in the process.
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Luckyellow posted:Okay, but why? I mean, wouldn't it be easier to just unstock the shelves, then dissemble them and then move it? It seems like a product that is created solely just for a problem that they've made up. Yeah. Why do 10 minutes of work when you could days 2 days worth. 
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Yeah. Why do 10 minutes of work when you could days 2 days worth. It’s prolly an hour and $50k for the thing, but pays for itself in 2 years. Keep the store fresh, cleaning under those grody things, etc.
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Zipperelli. posted:OSHA AF. Hearing protection and all. It's also horribly inefficient. The blower should be pointed backwards to aid in propulsion instead of fighting against it. Then the operator could start in the center and drive in a spiral out, pushing the leaves into a windrow to be collected. I hope he got fired. e: Speaking of getting fired......   
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Blindeye posted:If this is the case study I reviewed, this was a history timber structure being renovated and the workers pulled off the sheathing on the walls without putting in bracing so it lost all its lateral capacity. Interesting to see that. My parents place has an old barn, very old, very small. All of the original logs had rotted away, but the internal studs that someone had put in when they put insulation in became the actual frame. My brother and my dad stripped all the logs off leaving just the internal studs and paneling which had become the frame. It was actually much stronger than the original hand-hewn mess that was the log structure. The person who had put the internal studs in hadn't intended this. It had been done 50 years ago or so, but they managed to replace the entire structure of the building and let it shed it's skin to make a new, stick built, building, leaving the roof intact. My dad is going to just sheath the outside and put decorative logs on. The person who insulated it had turned this tiny barn into a massive sauna. Speaking of removing sheathing, causing a structure to fail, it reminds me of the 35W bridge collapse in Minneapolis. They had taken a 4 lane bridge, re-striped it for 6 lane with 2 additional ramps, re-certified it by calling the bridge decking structural, which was not in the original plan from the 60's. They then tore off all the decking on one side, then placed a tremendous point load on it and ran heavy equipment across during re-surfacing. There were reports from years prior that the gusset plates were deformed and rotten and needed replacing as the bridge was experiencing loads that were not expected in the original design. The state government ignored the warnings. The bridge fell killing, and badly hurting many. The state blamed the original architectural firm which was long out of business. As such, it was only the fault of people long since dead so we can just sweep the original problem under the rug. If decking is structural, or sheathing is structural, don't mess with it. I'm still mad about the bridge collapse and mad that no-one held Pawlenty's administration accountable for not addressing the gusset plates earlier.
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