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Epic High Five posted:as with most arguments against the LTV, there's a lot of reasons why it makes no sense i read this acronym as liquid television and still agree
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Bitcoin at $13,000 UP UP UP!!!
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OhFunny posted:Bitcoin at $13,000 UP UP UP!!! number!!!!!!!
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Shear Modulus posted:number!!!!!!!
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Ruzihm posted:many make the mudpie argument "against" the ltv because they don't properly understand its assertions, and then they reject it based on that argument. Thank you. I figured most of the arguments against were based on misrepresentation of the different forms of value.
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OhFunny posted:Bitcoin at $13,000 UP UP UP!!! oh my god lol
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Tbh I dont really get why we need a definition of inherent value to get to Marx's ideas about capitalism
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StashAugustine posted:Tbh I dont really get why we need a definition of inherent value to get to Marx's ideas about capitalism because people have been conditioned to hear marx and think of bread lines, the kgb, and chernobyl and not "a critique of economics that is demonstrably correct" and you have to chip away at that conditioning somehow
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OhFunny posted:Bitcoin at $13,000 UP UP UP!!! Did you mean to write $11,400? This Bitcoin madness is hilariously dumb.
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OhFunny posted:Bitcoin at $13,000 UP UP UP!!!  lol
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redneck nazgul posted:because people have been conditioned to hear marx and think of bread lines, the kgb, and chernobyl and not "a critique of economics that is demonstrably correct" Oh I get that much, its just the specific "value has inherent meaning" that I dont get. With what marx actually said about LTV I don't see how you need that
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Charles 2 of Spain posted:Probably thinks Iago is the parrot from Aladdin. Chomsky with Gottfried's voice 
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Ruzihm posted:many make the mudpie argument "against" the ltv because they don't properly understand its assertions, and then they reject it based on that argument. that seems a weird line to take, since you can just say "why would you hire somebody to make mud pies instead of apple pies if you got paid more for selling apple pies and they cost the same to make?"
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just place buy orders at 3000 and reap the free money, its a hands off scam
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v for vendetta scene "you can't kill an idea" except its pans to bitcoin crashing and nerds pouring all their income into it
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Soviet Space Dog posted:that seems a weird line to take, since you can just say "why would you hire somebody to make mud pies instead of apple pies if you got paid more for selling apple pies and they cost the same to make?" It's supposed to be some gotcha about how labor doesn't matter in terms of final price. Another version of it is "it takes X amount of labor to get a diamond but it takes 2X labor to get something that sells for a fraction of what a diamond sells for therefore the amount of labor you put in doesn't correlate to the price!" Ignoring the De Beers monopoly for a moment, it's just another confusion based on market price vs value.
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I think about how many people got absolutely wrecked by this drop today and are debating how to tell the wife and kids that the family is now broke and they have to sell the house and move because daddy hosed up his margins and I'm just loving smiling and can't stop. gently caress crypto and everyone involved in it.
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Source4Leko posted:I think about how many people got absolutely wrecked by this drop today and are debating how to tell the wife and kids that the family is now broke and they have to sell the house and move because daddy hosed up his margins and I'm just loving smiling and can't stop. gently caress crypto and everyone involved in it. This. Pos turned the econ club on my campus into the bitcoin club. Know he had over twenty k invested in it.
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Source4Leko posted:I think about how many people got absolutely wrecked by this drop today and are debating how to tell the wife and kids that the family is now broke and they have to sell the house and move because daddy hosed up his margins and I'm just loving smiling and can't stop. gently caress crypto and everyone involved in it. Quick! To /r/Buttcoin! Glory awaits! edit:  DYING FOR TRUMP'S CRYPTO PROFITS! Taintrunner fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Jun 26, 2019 |
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StashAugustine posted:Tbh I dont really get why we need a definition of inherent value to get to Marx's ideas about capitalism
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comedyblissoption posted:https://www.change.org/p/joe-rogan-experience-to-get-dr-richard-wolff-on-the-joe-rogan-podcast I always laugh at the people who point to people like Rogan and Mahr who purport to be a place to hear all ideas because nobody who sincerely believes this can name a single Marxist of any stripe - much less a scholar - that was brought onto the show. the inviolable rule of all media apparently is that the political spectrum is centrists on the left, and hardcore nazis on the right
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Epic High Five posted:I always laugh at the people who point to people like Rogan and Mahr who purport to be a place to hear all ideas because nobody who sincerely believes this can name a single Marxist of any stripe - much less a scholar - that was brought onto the show. "there's no market for left wing voices!" i continue to insist as a lovely podcast of five slobs living in a single apartment pulls down like a million a year
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Shear Modulus posted:"there's no market for left wing voices!" i continue to insist as a lovely podcast of five slobs living in a single apartment pulls down like a million a year yeah lol, legacy media outlets are shifting right to cater more exclusively to crusty old chuds and young people are bailing on them as a result, but just like with the NRA and Harley it's not the system that's to blame, noooooo it's those UNGRATEFUL little AVOCADO EATERS who should pay to consume media that excludes and blames them for everything! nevermind that I and a lot of leftists I know probably pay more per month for news feeds than chuds do, barring cable, it's just podcasts and pamplhets and periodicals and poo poo instead of a newspaper with a billionaire patron so it doesn't count
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95% of media in the USA is controlled by about 3-4 conglomerates and basically lol if you think they are down to educate people in a manner that hurts the bottom line or that raises class consciousness. It's not a matter of no market, that's just a line.
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the people in charge making the editorial decisions know what theyre doing and know theyre leaving money on the table to reinforce their hegemony (take for example msnbc hiring tons of chuds whose shows hemorrhage cash while maddow, who sucks but is probably left-most person on cable news TV (lol) gets absurd viewership numbers). but our country's dipshit incurious elite journalist class seem to buy their bosses' bullshit excuse about how theres no market. just like how they buy the bullshit of there being no money in media to pay journalists, while those same bosses proudly tell wall street of how they're making money hand over fist
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Epic High Five posted:I always laugh at the people who point to people like Rogan and Mahr who purport to be a place to hear all ideas because nobody who sincerely believes this can name a single Marxist of any stripe - much less a scholar - that was brought onto the show. Richard D. Wolff was on Maher's show in 2014. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-6nrAnDGyU I agree with you and just felt like being  guy.
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Cactus Jack posted:Richard D. Wolff was on Maher's show in 2014. *adjusts hat very puppetmasterishly* haha sir, I think you'll find, it is YOU who are owned, for you fell into my trap of debasing your karmic self by searching for a Bill Mahr video
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poty posted:https://twitter.com/AlertTrade/status/1143997892236959745 Awesome Grifts Done Quick
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Probably a bad idea to invest in a instrument used mostly for buying drugs and for laundering organized crime money
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Probably a bad idea to invest in a instrument used mostly for buying drugs and for laundering organized crime money but enough about usd 
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Kitfox88 posted:but enough about usd the term is banking
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Recently there were some Kaiser shrinks talking about striking because they didn’t have enough staff to handle all the suicidal pre-teens and a part of me died inside hearing that. DTA.
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