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Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
All of these password attempts and other things to prevent them from accessing means they just seize your device with likely permanence. You have zero rights when entering the country right now even as a citizen. You either comply with TSA/ICE or you don’t enter.

They do not “arrest” you, so there is no 6th amendment right to counsel. They are statutorily authorized to perform searches so no 4th amendment protections. No one has successfully challenged any of this.

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FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Also don’t mail / fedex phones and laptop, they’re dangerous goods. If you do have to ship them, make sure they’re properly labelled so you don’t Everglades a plane.

Splode
Jun 18, 2013

put some clothes on you little freak
Just never enter the US, and if you live there, flee over a land border or by boat. It's not a very nice place anyway

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

Memento posted:

Can you set the end of your dick to unlock your phone?

Yes. https://observer.com/2013/09/enterprising-writer-unlocks-his-iphone-5s-with-his-junk/

Seems like most phones with fingerprint scanners will accept a mushroom stamp instead.

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

I thought a SCOTUS decision said that if it is biometric, the police can legally compel you to unlock, but if it is something like swap/code, they couldn't.
Did I make all that up in my head?

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

bulletsponge13 posted:

I thought a SCOTUS decision said that if it is biometric, the police can legally compel you to unlock, but if it is something like swap/code, they couldn't.
Did I make all that up in my head?

A federal judge ruled in January that the police can't force you to unlock a phone or other device without a warrant, but as far as I know this doesn't apply to borders. Border Patrol can still force their way into your belongings without a warrant or even suspicion of a crime.

You don't even have to be coming from anywhere like Mexico! An Apple employee returning from a business trip to Sweden tried to force their way into his phone and computer, all but outright stated it was because he had made public statements about needing stronger encryption and privacy from the government, and refused him access to a lawyer.

In short, Customs and Border agents are fascists and will be first against the wall.

chitoryu12 fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Jun 24, 2019

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

The same thing happened to Karl Kasarda from InRange. It's a famously non-chud gun channel run with Ian of Forgotten Weapons that does videos on the oppression of Native Americans, but they also made a lot of videos about government invasions of privacy. When Karl was coming back from a trip to Finland, he was detained and had his entire bag emptied out and everything in it questioned with no reason given. They were really mad when he refused to unlock his phone or laptop. It's the kind of treatment that makes you want to stop traveling out of the country altogether, which I think might be the point.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
Saw this in C-SPAM and I thought I'd crosspost:

Sacrist65 posted:

I met a guy from Oklahoma who, within 5 years:
1. Joined the air force
2. Met and married a woman on Christian mingle
3. Had a child with said woman
4. Divorced
5. Left the air force
5. Moved to the bay area with his boyfriend

He seems happier now.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
I guess he won in the end

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



chitoryu12 posted:

It's the kind of treatment that makes you want to stop traveling out of the country altogether, which I think might be the point.

The point is for a bunch of unemployable trash to get paid stepping on necks, whose necks doesn’t even matter.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
Someone else called it Little Brother Syndrome, I call it the "Eichmanning of America."

They don't want to be Hitler, but they'd happily follow anyone who permits them to take out their frustrations and stress on others (preferably those 'living better' than themselves) from a position of authority they'd have never enjoyed otherwise.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Dillbag posted:

This can be very much a heat score maneuver if they decide to check your phone.
It’s like an empty browser history. They’ll keep harassing you until they figure out why if you’re a citizen, and just put you on the next plane out if you’re not.

My boss asked me last year why I stopped putting in travel requests to cons in the US and his wording was literally “is it the Cheeto in the Oval Office”. Everyone knows the score.

evil_bunnY fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Jun 24, 2019

Laranzu
Jan 18, 2002

Mr. Nice! posted:

All of these password attempts and other things to prevent them from accessing means they just seize your device with likely permanence. You have zero rights when entering the country right now even as a citizen. You either comply with TSA/ICE or you don’t enter.

They do not “arrest” you, so there is no 6th amendment right to counsel. They are statutorily authorized to perform searches so no 4th amendment protections. No one has successfully challenged any of this.

Officially they can't deny a citizen entry to the country. I'm guessing you're saying they can just refuse by way of delaying indefinitely and no one will challenge it successfully?

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
Putting you in limbo is a hell of a thing if no one knows you're there

Wild T
Dec 15, 2008

The point I'm trying to make is that the only way to come out on top is to kick the Air Force in the nuts, beart it savagely with a weight and take a dump on it's face.

Proud Christian Mom posted:

I guess he got won in the end

Sacrist65
Mar 24, 2007
Frunnkiss

Proud Christian Mom posted:

I guess he won in the end

The longer, and possibly implied part of that story is that he was very religious and "southern" in the plaid shirt tucked into jeans way. Even though he joined later in life, his goal was to use the GI bill to pay for a seminary school in order to become an army chaplain.

He married the local Christian mingle girl after about 3 months of dating because she was leaving for basic training. We all suspected that she did it in order to get assigned a base close to home. They had a child not long after she got back.

He ended up getting an administrative discharge in 2ish years for failing OJT if I recall correctly.

I activated a MySpace account at one point and saw that part about the bay area.

I think this might be the purest version of enlisted.txt

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

happy weed number page everybody

LonsomeSon
Nov 22, 2009

A fishperson in an intimidating hat!

Apropos of page number, someone I've known since they were five (and I was nine) enlisted in the Army as a fuel systems MOS of some kind but wound up assigned to a truck driver unit, the ones which would load up in Quatar, fly into either war and go on 1-2 week missions all along the big supply routes, then fly out for 2-6 nights of maintenance and loading time. And he's got the fueler MOS, he's one of the drivers for the convoy fuel truck. It was an up-armored cab at least but no turret, so they didn't have a gunner.

So naturally he and the hand-off driver would just spend their entire time on the road with the turret hatch open, just blazing blunts of mail-order spice, but all the other vehicle crews in the unit would be, too. People were smuggling in booze and probably driving drunk on MSR motherfucking Tampa during the year right before the DoD outlawed spice, which was if I recall the height of the Iraqi civil war.

Just, like, hunkering down and rolling through ambushes while cross-faded on research chemicals and Military Special-grade raw grain alcohol mailed in-country in a refilled mouthwash bottle, pedal to the metal with like 800 gallons of JP8. gently caress. That.

e: also this man came home a loving wreck, about 9 months after I got out, but we chilled a ton, he got me back into smoking weed, and then also one day we were talking in my parents' backyard when this big awkward (part-pitbull maybe part boxer?) mongrel puppy just runs up through the garage from the alley and starts playing with us. We fed him and gave him water and he fell asleep on the dude, which was just palpably adorable. We put up fliers for a few weeks but nobody claimed him, and they have been together since. He named the dog Tigger, because he is super excitable and bounces around when happy, and in pretty sure Tigger was more important than his family and friends in helping him cope with his PTSD and work through the alcoholic phase.

So that part was a happy ending, and also consider trying pets if feasible for your friends who are struggling when they get back.

LonsomeSon fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Jun 26, 2019

ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

Be Gay!
Do Crime!

Professor Bling posted:

Or be like me and just be too poor to fly anywhere

One of my brothers is angry at me that i dont fly more often to Puerto Rico to see our parents and my godson. Motherfucker never left the island and doesn't understand the massive pain in the rear end that is flying from the west coast to Puerto Rico.

Wild T
Dec 15, 2008

The point I'm trying to make is that the only way to come out on top is to kick the Air Force in the nuts, beart it savagely with a weight and take a dump on it's face.
A Warboy. Your friend is a Warboy who rode shiny and chrome as gently caress.

UP THE BUM NO BABY
Sep 1, 2011

by Hand Knit
:420:

bird cooch
Jan 19, 2007

Wild T posted:

A Warboy. Your friend is a Warboy who rode shiny and chrome as gently caress.

I've been sitting here working on a fence thinking about driving a fuel tanker without a gunner through ambushes and I don't know how I would have survived it because I guarantee you that I would have crawled into whatever the gently caress I could to not think about that.

Witness me blood bag.

Smiling Jack
Dec 2, 2001

I sucked a dick for bus fare and then I walked home.

Wild T posted:

A Warboy. Your friend is a Warboy who rode shiny and chrome as gently caress.

:stare:

agreed

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:
:perfect:

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

LonsomeSon posted:

Apropos of page number, someone I've known since they were five (and I was nine) enlisted in the Army as a fuel systems MOS of some kind but wound up assigned to a truck driver unit, the ones which would load up in Quatar, fly into either war and go on 1-2 week missions all along the big supply routes, then fly out for 2-6 nights of maintenance and loading time. And he's got the fueler MOS, he's one of the drivers for the convoy fuel truck. It was an up-armored cab at least but no turret, so they didn't have a gunner.

So naturally he and the hand-off driver would just spend their entire time on the road with the turret hatch open, just blazing blunts of mail-order spice, but all the other vehicle crews in the unit would be, too. People were smuggling in booze and probably driving drunk on MSR motherfucking Tampa during the year right before the DoD outlawed spice, which was if I recall the height of the Iraqi civil war.

Just, like, hunkering down and rolling through ambushes while cross-faded on research chemicals and Military Special-grade raw grain alcohol mailed in-country in a refilled mouthwash bottle, pedal to the metal with like 800 gallons of JP8. gently caress. That.

e: also this man came home a loving wreck, about 9 months after I got out, but we chilled a ton, he got me back into smoking weed, and then also one day we were talking in my parents' backyard when this big awkward (part-pitbull maybe part boxer?) mongrel puppy just runs up through the garage from the alley and starts playing with us. We fed him and gave him water and he fell asleep on the dude, which was just palpably adorable. We put up fliers for a few weeks but nobody claimed him, and they have been together since. He named the dog Tigger, because he is super excitable and bounces around when happy, and in pretty sure Tigger was more important than his family and friends in helping him cope with his PTSD and work through the alcoholic phase.

So that part was a happy ending, and also consider trying pets if feasible for your friends who are struggling when they get back.

:perfect:

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug
Back up and factory reset your phone and laptop, then fill them up with dickpics (your own or others), Mia Isabella and gay porn, and set the wallpaper to be hello.jpg.

At some point, won't reluctance to cross the border into the US dissuade enough travelers from coming so that it makes a financial impact on the companies that own the politicians who control the CBP and TSA?

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010

evobatman posted:

At some point, won't reluctance to cross the border into the US dissuade enough travelers from coming so that it makes a financial impact on the companies that own the politicians who control the CBP and TSA?

You do know there's gonna be some insane tariffs on tinfoil, right? :v:

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug

Beach Bum posted:

You do know there's gonna be some insane tariffs on tinfoil, right? :v:

Well it was hyperbole, but I hope we can agree that corporate influence on politicians is a thing in the US.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

LonsomeSon posted:

Apropos of page number, someone I've known since they were five (and I was nine) enlisted in the Army as a fuel systems MOS of some kind but wound up assigned to a truck driver unit, the ones which would load up in Quatar, fly into either war and go on 1-2 week missions all along the big supply routes, then fly out for 2-6 nights of maintenance and loading time. And he's got the fueler MOS, he's one of the drivers for the convoy fuel truck. It was an up-armored cab at least but no turret, so they didn't have a gunner.

So naturally he and the hand-off driver would just spend their entire time on the road with the turret hatch open, just blazing blunts of mail-order spice, but all the other vehicle crews in the unit would be, too. People were smuggling in booze and probably driving drunk on MSR motherfucking Tampa during the year right before the DoD outlawed spice, which was if I recall the height of the Iraqi civil war.

Just, like, hunkering down and rolling through ambushes while cross-faded on research chemicals and Military Special-grade raw grain alcohol mailed in-country in a refilled mouthwash bottle, pedal to the metal with like 800 gallons of JP8. gently caress. That.

e: also this man came home a loving wreck, about 9 months after I got out, but we chilled a ton, he got me back into smoking weed, and then also one day we were talking in my parents' backyard when this big awkward (part-pitbull maybe part boxer?) mongrel puppy just runs up through the garage from the alley and starts playing with us. We fed him and gave him water and he fell asleep on the dude, which was just palpably adorable. We put up fliers for a few weeks but nobody claimed him, and they have been together since. He named the dog Tigger, because he is super excitable and bounces around when happy, and in pretty sure Tigger was more important than his family and friends in helping him cope with his PTSD and work through the alcoholic phase.

So that part was a happy ending, and also consider trying pets if feasible for your friends who are struggling when they get back.

I would legit watch this war movie.

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010

evobatman posted:

Well it was hyperbole, but I hope we can agree that corporate influence on politicians is a thing in the US.

Yeah. :smithicide:

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

evobatman posted:

Back up and factory reset your phone and laptop, then fill them up with dickpics (your own or others), Mia Isabella and gay porn, and set the wallpaper to be hello.jpg.

At some point, won't reluctance to cross the border into the US dissuade enough travelers from coming so that it makes a financial impact on the companies that own the politicians who control the CBP and TSA?

There are already people who stopped trying to come in because of the various stupid ban lists from the War on Terror and Iraq War years. Hell, a bunch of conferences are now considering going online or relocating to Canada because it's close to America, Americans can easily get there, and so can almost everybody else.

vuk83
Oct 9, 2012

evobatman posted:

Well it was hyperbole, but I hope we can agree that corporate influence on politicians is a thing in the US.

But they use their influence to fight labour, and taxes. If the cost is that the Gestapo gets to gently caress with some brown people, so be it.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

BigDave posted:

I would legit watch this war movie.

Fear and Loathing meets Wages of Fear.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

Taste the High Country

Stultus Maximus posted:

Fear and Loathing meets Wages of Fear.

Fear and Loathing in Tikrit?

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



We were on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take ho-

:stare: it already works too well.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

vuk83 posted:

But they use their influence to fight labour, and taxes. If the cost is that the Gestapo gets to gently caress with some brown people, so be it.

Man I hope this is sarcasm

Wild T
Dec 15, 2008

The point I'm trying to make is that the only way to come out on top is to kick the Air Force in the nuts, beart it savagely with a weight and take a dump on it's face.
There he goes, one of God's own prototypes. A high-powered Private never even considered for mass production. Too drunk to drive, and too high to stop.

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
I really wanna be mad at that guy but man, if you are gonna drive in a wildly impaired state, just go whole hog while driving a convoy of bombs in a warzone while getting shot at.

Can't get PTSD if your brain doesn't record anything at all.

bulletsponge13
Apr 28, 2010

LonsomeSon posted:

Apropos of page number, someone I've known since they were five (and I was nine) enlisted in the Army as a fuel systems MOS of some kind but wound up assigned to a truck driver unit, the ones which would load up in Quatar, fly into either war and go on 1-2 week missions all along the big supply routes, then fly out for 2-6 nights of maintenance and loading time. And he's got the fueler MOS, he's one of the drivers for the convoy fuel truck. It was an up-armored cab at least but no turret, so they didn't have a gunner.

So naturally he and the hand-off driver would just spend their entire time on the road with the turret hatch open, just blazing blunts of mail-order spice, but all the other vehicle crews in the unit would be, too. People were smuggling in booze and probably driving drunk on MSR motherfucking Tampa during the year right before the DoD outlawed spice, which was if I recall the height of the Iraqi civil war.

Just, like, hunkering down and rolling through ambushes while cross-faded on research chemicals and Military Special-grade raw grain alcohol mailed in-country in a refilled mouthwash bottle, pedal to the metal with like 800 gallons of JP8. gently caress. That.

e: also this man came home a loving wreck, about 9 months after I got out, but we chilled a ton, he got me back into smoking weed, and then also one day we were talking in my parents' backyard when this big awkward (part-pitbull maybe part boxer?) mongrel puppy just runs up through the garage from the alley and starts playing with us. We fed him and gave him water and he fell asleep on the dude, which was just palpably adorable. We put up fliers for a few weeks but nobody claimed him, and they have been together since. He named the dog Tigger, because he is super excitable and bounces around when happy, and in pretty sure Tigger was more important than his family and friends in helping him cope with his PTSD and work through the alcoholic phase.

So that part was a happy ending, and also consider trying pets if feasible for your friends who are struggling when they get back.

Tell him he was awesome in Fury Road.
I, mean, if you are sure your gonna check out, at least make it fun.

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MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

It's like RayRay tweaking out on RIPPED FUEL in GK except...well, more hardcore.

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