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Phi230 posted:I think there's about equal chance of Biden dropping an N-bomb or literally just sundowning extremely hard and slurring his speech/being so confused as to be unintelligible I dunno, it seems like the latter would all but guarantee the former.
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I think Biden will do fine tonight, or at least “fine” enough for the media to pretend he did fine. I have a hard time imagining his numbers outright tanking after tonight, given what he’s already ambled through, but fortunately we still have a lot of time to chip away. Should be a net gain for Bernie (and Warren) in any case.
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Just read the new OP. Lmao is Yang really only offering $1,000 per year? Holy poo poo I assumed his revolutionary UBI plan was per month.
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Delthalaz posted:Just read the new OP. Lmao is Yang really only offering $1,000 per year? Holy poo poo I assumed his revolutionary UBI plan was per month. No it's per month.
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Jun 27, 2019 20:49
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bad brains run in the Biden family. Bernie will crush him.
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Wicked Them Beats posted:No it's per month. OK I spotted a typo in the op then
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Mellow Seas posted:I think Biden will do fine tonight, or at least “fine” enough for the media to pretend he did fine. I have a hard time imagining his numbers outright tanking after tonight, given what he’s already ambled through, but fortunately we still have a lot of time to chip away. Should be a net gain for Bernie (and Warren) in any case. If Biden manages to stumble through the debate without molesting anyone or choking on his own tongue the media will declare him victor anyway oh lord, that's why warren was last night, isn't it. Because she'd be standing next to Biden. Had to avoid the risk he'd try to grope her.
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Jun 27, 2019 20:50
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Delthalaz posted:OK I spotted a typo in the op then Whoops, I was wrong, I'll fix it
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Jun 27, 2019 20:51
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I don't know why you guys are expecting slurs or full mental breakdowns tonight from Biden. It's enough to simply expect him to Biden at normal levels. Praising segregationists or calling Harris very attractive and articulate are super Biden thing that'll go nowhere in a live debate. Also he's suuuper likely to get old white guy indignant over a minor critique from someone . His best performance in all his years of debating was a single line about Rudy Giuliani. No one remembers a single other thing that wasn't a Biden certified gaffe.
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Jun 27, 2019 20:51
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I don't expect Bernie is going to attack Biden. There are other people on that stage who need to attack Biden more, so Bernie would be better off doing like Warren did last night; setting a strong example with bold policies and forthright moral statements
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Jun 27, 2019 20:53
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Gripweed posted:I don't expect Bernie is going to attack Biden. There are other people on that stage who need to attack Biden more, so Bernie would be better off doing like Warren did last night; setting a strong example with bold policies and forthright moral statements I fully expect him to go this route and hold back on attacking until he absolutely has to.
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Jun 27, 2019 20:56
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It would be idiotic to attack Biden and be seen as going “negative” or else doing something which might be seen as opportunistic. He’s well-liked among primary voters, so I think it would just sink you, even if it harms him. The smart thing to do is to raise contrasts that reflect poorly on Biden while establishing yourself as a more effective alternative. This goes for every candidate on stage up there.
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Jun 27, 2019 20:57
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Democrazy posted:
"I just drew this clock. Biden, can you also draw a clock? Here's paper."
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Jun 27, 2019 20:58
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i don't think Biden is constantly "sundowning", but he will definitely say something embarrassing that will immediately be swept away by donut twitter as "atleast he's not Trump!"
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Jun 27, 2019 20:59
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Its gonna be every candidate attacking Biden to try and take him down while CNN desperately tries to destroy Bernie Like I said, they're gonna dredge every rich gusano in Miami to stack the audience tonight
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Jun 27, 2019 20:59
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I just hope Bernie gets to sarcastically answer a dumb question tonight. Laying out the ChuckTodd knows nothing about the topic of his question would also be nice.
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Jun 27, 2019 21:00
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Bernie will probably be too busy fielding garbage bad faith questions from the moderators to attack Biden.
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Jun 27, 2019 21:00
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:"I just drew this clock. Biden, can you also draw a clock? Here's paper." Make it a windmill
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Jun 27, 2019 21:00
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Gyges posted:I don't know why you guys are expecting slurs or full mental breakdowns tonight from Biden. It's enough to simply expect him to Biden at normal levels. Praising segregationists or calling Harris very attractive and articulate are super Biden thing that'll go nowhere in a live debate. Also he's suuuper likely to get old white guy indignant over a minor critique from someone . He did really well against Ryan, calling his talking points "a load of malarkey." That's the main reason why I still have affection for Biden, while acknowledging that he shouldn't be our nominee.
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Jun 27, 2019 21:01
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Maddow is gonna call Bernie a russian agent, they're gonna have a bunch of gusanos try and redbait bernie, and he will otherwise be attacked with right-wing talking points the entire night
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Jun 27, 2019 21:02
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:"I just drew this clock. Biden, can you also draw a clock? Here's paper." Sanders is a year older than him.
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Jun 27, 2019 21:08
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I hope someone says “There’s only three things Biden mentions in a sentence — a noun, a verb, and Obama" after he namedrops him for the 600th time.
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Jun 27, 2019 21:09
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I wonder who Biden is going to call articulate and clean tonight
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Jun 27, 2019 21:09
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I think a few of us are dismissing deBalsio accomplishments. Yea, he really hosed up on Amazon but overall he’s done a ton of good for New York namely raising taxes on the wealthy to pay for all sorts of services the city needs such as healthcare, homeless assistance, rent control, etc. Sure, it’s messy, imperfect and whatever but overall it’s the right direction. On a final note, I don’t think he should run for or be president but he’s a decent dude who’s had a positive net impact.
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Democrazy posted:It would be idiotic to attack Biden and be seen as going “negative” or else doing something which might be seen as opportunistic. He’s well-liked among primary voters, so I think it would just sink you, even if it harms him. People might not know that's a contrast with Biden though unless you point it out. "i voted against the bankruptcy bill that made it harder for people to file for bankruptcy while Biden voted for it" is an important contrast people need to know.
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Jun 27, 2019 21:16
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bowser posted:I hope someone says “There’s only three things Biden mentions in a sentence — a noun, a verb, and Obama" after he namedrops him for the 600th time. “[CANDIDATE] LIKENS OBAMA TO 9/11 IN CALLOUS ATTACK ON BIDEN”
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Jun 27, 2019 21:19
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Democrazy posted:Sanders is a year older than him. And? Al Gore is younger than either.
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https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1144333800626954240 https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1144336709796208641 "FLOOD THE POLLS FOR MOMMY" 
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theblackw0lf posted:People might not know that's a contrast with Biden though unless you point it out. There are other forums where that type of thing will probably play better (everyone will be looking for it, it will look like an opportunistic attack etc.) and with so many candidates, you don’t want to give voters a reason to vote against you.
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Jun 27, 2019 21:25
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:And? Al Gore is younger than either. My point is that drawing attention to the age of Biden would not a great move for a guy who is older than Biden.
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Jun 27, 2019 21:26
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Democrazy posted:My point is that drawing attention to the age of Biden would not a great move for a guy who is older than Biden. Not just Biden's age. You can be Jimmy Carter and still not trip over your own tongue.
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Jun 27, 2019 21:28
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Sanders is older but he also hasn’t been skipping events and hiding from the press.
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Jun 27, 2019 21:28
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1144333800626954240 just further proof that polls are pointless in this day and age, and that poll dweebs need to be smacked in the face everytime they flip out about them
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Lastgirl posted:just further proof that polls are pointless in this day and age, and that poll dweebs need to be smacked in the face everytime they flip out about them These are online polls. Absolutely no one takes these seriously. I'm thinking you might be a Yang supporter?
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Jun 27, 2019 21:34
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flood teh polls for mommy the Muslim murderer
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Jun 27, 2019 21:40
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Gyges posted:I just hope Bernie gets to sarcastically answer a dumb question tonight. Laying out the ChuckTodd knows nothing about the topic of his question would also be nice. For every sarcastic comment Bernie makes, a Warren supporter gets her wings.
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Pinky Artichoke posted:For every sarcastic comment Bernie makes, a Warren supporter gets her wings. bold of you to threaten to murder warren supporters over Bernie's behavior, but the times call for desperate measures i suppose
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Jun 27, 2019 21:45
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kidkissinger posted:These are online polls. Absolutely no one takes these seriously. sure why not aaaahh flood the polls for daddy yang aaahhh (no one takes landline polls seriously either)
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Jun 27, 2019 21:50
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Pinky Artichoke posted:For every sarcastic comment Bernie makes, a Warren supporter gets her wings. This makes sense because Warren's supporters are white and rich - the only people who care about "sarcastic comments" rather than actual material policy
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Lastgirl posted:sure why not Do you think we need to unskew the polls for Yang?
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