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CRUSTY MINGE posted:All of this, plus the 1099 bit, and a smattering of "gig economy" thrown around, and the years of experience for entry jobs (thx guys that mentioned that poo poo). All of that is why I get as high as I can before going into work. Next time you come to Denver area hmu and we will have a beer/joint. And totally not burn down my company that caters to way to much of what's wrong with America
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Vasudus posted:I certainly am. I'm trying to move internationally because double taxation is worth not having to spend half of my income on basic childcare and healthcare expenses.
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Jun 28, 2019 14:32
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Vasudus posted:I certainly am. Same I work for a bank, I own a house, I'll probably inherit a few million from my father
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Cugel the Clever posted:"Why are we having such trouble finding qualified candidates? We're doing everything right: we have virtually zero advertising of open positions; uncompetitive salary and benefits; and require applicants to have paid their own way for licenses/certificates/training before they come to us. Lousy millennials wanting everything handed to them on a silver platter..." The mindset worked during the Great Recession, it must still work! Keep trying!
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RFC2324 posted:Next time you come to Denver area hmu and we will have a beer/joint. Same if you swing down to the Springs. It's not as bad as everyone says it is here.
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That trucker is so good at killing Marines the VA should offer him a job
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MA-Horus posted:That trucker is so good at killing Marines the VA should offer him a job boeing already has dibs on him for the next generation of osprey
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Cugel the Clever posted:"Why are we having such trouble finding qualified candidates? We're doing everything right: we have virtually zero advertising of open positions; uncompetitive salary and benefits; and require applicants to have paid their own way for licenses/certificates/training before they come to us. Lousy millennials wanting everything handed to them on a silver platter..." IT.txt
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psydude posted:I'm trying to move internationally because double taxation is worth not having to spend half of my income on basic childcare and healthcare expenses. It isn't worth it though, because it can cost you hundreds of grand to maintain that lifestyle and it's a huge FYGM to anyone not wealthy enough to afford just leaving.
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Woof Blitzer posted:IT.txt I'd argue IT is one of the few industries that has experienced wage increases in response to short supply, since companies can't really afford to skimp on it and there's intense competition among companies to hire away candidates.
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Jun 28, 2019 15:23
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psydude posted:I'd argue IT is one of the few industries that has experienced wage increases in response to short supply, since companies can't really afford to skimp on it and there's intense competition among companies to hire away candidates. Looks like you haven’t had to sort through a sea of H1B bait and vacancies written by HR managers.
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psydude posted:I'd argue IT is one of the few industries that has experienced wage increases in response to short supply, since companies can't really afford to skimp on it and there's intense competition among companies to hire away candidates. I think this is true in the cleared sector but not so much in the rest especially at the lower end.
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Woof Blitzer posted:Looks like you haven’t had to sort through a sea of H1B bait and vacancies written by HR managers. These have always been issues in technology hiring, though. It's not hard to filter out. LingcodKilla posted:I think this is true in the cleared sector but not so much in the rest especially at the lower end. Especially for internal IT operations positions, I'd definitely agree, since the entire industry is moving toward managed services. But even those services companies are competing for a small pool of talent and are even lowering barriers to entry: I know people getting hired directly into support positions straight out of college without anything but a degree, which is something that I definitely didn't see 10 years ago. psydude fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Jun 28, 2019 |
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Woof Blitzer posted:Looks like you haven’t had to sort through a sea of H1B bait and vacancies written by HR managers. Dr. FAUXTON is basically a priority candidate wherever she applies because she's a US citizen, but hoo-boy some of those postings she's been looking through are so badly written it's hilarious. Ok so they need a vaccine researcher, usual stuff about relevant experience and education, but then "must be familiar and comfortable with business flows and project needs, ability to interface with sales and marketing" like they will ever do anything more than asking her to write things about science for them to say at meetings and you absolutely know someone with a seat in the suite asked to have that thrown in at the last minute and nobody cared how it sounded lol.
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psydude posted:I'm trying to move internationally because double taxation is worth not having to spend half of my income on basic childcare and healthcare expenses. I'll never tire of telling people I have more money left over now that I dont live in America and have to pay for health insurance. hell, my income tax now is what, 39% or something and I get shitloads back. I also earn less but still have more.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/07/future-of-work-expertise-navy/590647/ Or you could go the opposite direction and claim that experience of any kind is useless. This is a great idea and will maximize our ability to
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Its worth noting that while some IT jobs have seen increases, jobs that used to be high level, high pay like programming are steadily becoming blue collar. IT Security is one of the few places I know where increases are still common, both because lack of manning, and because usually to be GOOD at IT security, you have to be rather riskier than a Systems Engineer and have a deeper all around knowledge versus most IT jobs. We have a couple college interns with us who are going to school for Cybersecurity (lol, Cyber), and what they are telling us that they are taught is pretty distressing: They are not really getting much applicable knowledge, lots of book theory, but nothing hard and hands on. Most of my Security knowledge was from breaking things, setting up honeypots, learning from people breaking into my systems, my labs, and malicious file research. They really are not teaching them anything. I think it will take a while for Security manpower to really take off. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Jun 28, 2019 |
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CommieGIR posted:Its worth noting that while some IT jobs have seen increases, jobs that used to be high level, high pay like programming are steadily becoming blue collar. This is why I'm taking the Security+ exam July 29th. Gotta do something to make sure I get a job after I graduate.
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LongDarkNight posted:Am I a class traitor? Aren't all people dumb enough to serve in the military? It's why we're broke-brained now. We're trying to reconcile.
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Woof Blitzer posted:Looks like you haven’t had to sort through a sea of H1B bait and vacancies written by HR managers. Does H1B bait even still work in a post- Trump environment? I got derailed off my F1-EAC-to-H1B track post election because corporate HQs across the US were freaking out over the administration promising to shut that pipeline down. To be fair, I fully assume that business went back to usual as soon as people realized the administration was incompetent, but still...
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psydude posted:since companies can't really afford to skimp on it  I mean I get what you're going for in that there are consequences for doing so but, well, long term thinking isn't exactly a strong suit in this environment.
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CommieGIR posted:
~Cybersecurity~ programs at schools are trash, with very few exceptions. I took 2 or 3 Cybersecurity program courses for my master's, and I still feel I am owed a refund even if the GI Bill covered it all.
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Duzzy Funlop posted:Does H1B bait even still work in a post- Trump environment? I see a million Cognizant/etc. people every day so yes.
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bird food bathtub posted:
To be fair, I've spent the past couple of years working in controls automation security, so I've (thankfully) been away from enterprise security. A lot of industries (and countries, in some cases) were caught completely offguard and unprotected from poo poo like NotPetya, so they're freaking out right now and scrambling to find a fix in order to protect their bottom line. It's a stark contrast to the normal approach to security, which is strictly to cover their own rear end. psydude fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Jun 28, 2019 |
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They add for profit prisons and I’ll consider it.
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I was protesting in front of Bank of America two weeks ago because they fired janitors who tried to organize a union.
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Vriess posted:Aren't all people dumb enough to serve in the military? It's all the "you're gonna blow up a bunch of poo poo" and then they never let us blow up poo poo. There were times, involving explosives, that I was in more danger on a jobsite than in the army. Not a lot, but I never stood next to bridges being demolished with directional charges in the army, or along a bench cut in a stone quarry. Or anywhere near some of the idiots the ATF allows to handle explosives in the South (some genuinely good blasters out there though). And all I did at those jobs was seismicity monitoring and damage control. That job was way more boring than it sounds, just like trimming weed. In actuality we're all broken for different reasons. I have my handle on my back, the tipped jar of marbles, that's another story. Maybe partaking in morally questionable wars does gently caress with heads. Who'd have thunk.
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Ok. Somebody straighten me out here. Republicans: give us more border money or we'll keep torturing these children. SA: loving Democrats!! Trump: cheats, breaks laws and norms, controls the sentate and everything else other than the house. SA: loving Democrats!!! Me: joins union after I get out, buys house SA: get in line for the guillotine!! What in the hell is going on here? The last one is straight up crabs in a bucket bullshit.
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bird cooch posted:Ok. Somebody straighten me out here. Did somebody say crabs?
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bird cooch posted:Ok. Somebody straighten me out here. what
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I don't know what the last one is about, but for the first two, I would like an actual opposition party. I already believe the republicans are irredeemable scum. My level of mad at the republicans is at maximum, and has been since the Iraq war. Imagine if Schumer fought for kids in cages as hard as Mitch fights for low tax rates on the wealthy. Imagine if Pelosi wanted to hamstring Trump as much as the republicans hamstrung Obama. Imagine if anyone in democratic leadership learned anything from Iraq as the admin clowns stumble over rakes in their drunken march to war with Iran.
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bird cooch posted:Ok. Somebody straighten me out here. The step you’re missing in each of those is Democrats expressing Concern and calling for Investigations but not actually doing anything effective against Trump, and certainly not calling for impeachment. Also after the Dems folded like a cheap suit yesterday, I’m having a hard time being enthusiastic about them either.
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bird cooch posted:Me: joins union after I get out, buys house stdh.txt Unless maybe posting in one of the more irony/hyperbole happy forums. Although lmbo at the landlords getting all pissed off and then the landlord thread being closed in the finances subforum.
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We don't need to keep bitching about how the Republicans are evil and what they're doing would make Cobra Commander blush, it's pretty well established by now and doesn't add anything to the conversation. That leaves us with the Democrats who are ostensibly "fighting the good fight" but are so weak willed and thin skinned that we get frustrated that they aren't doing the job we think they should be doing, which is why fighting back against actual evil.
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mlmp08 posted:stdh.txt Maybe they're a landlord and they're misrepresenting poo poo? That's my only explanation for that one
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CommieGIR posted:Its worth noting that while some IT jobs have seen increases, jobs that used to be high level, high pay like programming are steadily becoming blue collar. I’m enrolling in my local community colleges Cybersecurity program, and trying to learn all can about Security. Mind sharing your path in IT security? LtCol J. Krusinski fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Jun 28, 2019 |
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Man, that's like Mugabe saying he won't do business with Nestlé any more.
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mlmp08 posted:stdh.txt I'm pretty sure it was on the last page Edit: must have been d&d which is now LF-light bird cooch fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Jun 28, 2019 |
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