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If your state is not currently governed by Democrats, it probably never again will be.
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Pope Guilty posted:If your state is not currently governed by Democrats, it probably never again will be. Gerrymandering does nothing to stop a Democrat from being elected governor, and that alone can stop most gerrymandering efforts.
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Jun 27, 2019 17:43
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Bird in a Blender posted:Gerrymandering does nothing to stop a Democrat from being elected governor, and that alone can stop most gerrymandering efforts. Tell that to Wisconsin.
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Jun 27, 2019 17:47
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Pope Guilty posted:If your state is not currently governed by Democrats, it probably never again will be. Nevada just turned the table after a decade long effort. Not only is the Governor a Democrat, the legislature is majority Democrat and majority women. They’re all corporate bootlickers with hardly a progressive among them and no stomach to raise taxes, but it can happen.
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Jun 27, 2019 19:32
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Craptacular! posted:Nevada just turned the table after a decade long effort. Not only is the Governor a Democrat, the legislature is majority Democrat and majority women. That's the one weakness of gerrymanders, when they fall they fall hard. An ideal gerrymander wins a large number of seats by very small margins, too much momentum in the other direction and all of them change hands.
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Jun 27, 2019 19:41
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haveblue posted:That's the one weakness of gerrymanders, when they fall they fall hard. An ideal gerrymander wins a large number of seats by very small margins, too much momentum in the other direction and all of them change hands. So, the frustrating part of this is that most blue states are going  and not completely redraw things to completely lock out the GOP, while the red states are going to jump on this.
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Jun 27, 2019 20:01
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Because it needs to be reposted every time gerrymandering comes up:
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Jun 27, 2019 20:08
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Something people are missing, the Fair Representation Act (or another thing that implements Single Transferable Vote or another system like it) would also destroy gerrymandering pretty thoroughly, even with this bullshit ruling. Not completely, in that you could technically draw districts that would have a slight bias relative to other possible districts, but it would still make things dramatically more fair. And, best of all, it can be done entirely at the federal level, without an amendment; it just needs to pass Congress and be signed by the President. Electoral reform needs to become part of the Democratic platform, even more than ever now.
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Jun 27, 2019 20:18
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Roland Jones posted:Something people are missing, the Fair Representation Act (or another thing that implements Single Transferable Vote or another system like it) would also destroy gerrymandering pretty thoroughly, even with this bullshit ruling. Not completely, in that you could technically draw districts that would have a slight bias relative to other possible districts, but it would still make things dramatically more fair. And, best of all, it can be done entirely at the federal level, without an amendment; it just needs to pass Congress and be signed by the President. If states don't adhere to the federal voting laws, is there redress in the federal courts? are such issues justiciable under this decision?
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Jun 27, 2019 20:28
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:If states don't adhere to the federal voting laws, is there redress in the federal courts? are such issues justiciable under this decision? Congress controls federal elections, if I recall correctly; the states carry them out, of course, but much influence over the particulars of how they're done that the states have is there because Congress lets them have it. Unless the Supreme Court decides the Constitution's explicit text no longer counts (which to be fair wouldn't be the first time), then the states have to suck it up and deal. (I could admittedly be missing the specifics, but I pretty clearly remember that this is how it broadly works. At the least, the reason we don't have multi-member districts at the federal level is because Congress outlawed them entirely, and similarly they could mandate them if they wanted. There was a really good thing on this subject I read a while back, but that was over a year ago so I can't find it.) Technically local elections could still be winner-take-all, First Past The Post nonsense, but it'd make things extremely confusing and attempts to exploit it might backfire if federal and state stuff used entirely different systems and districts and whatnot. Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Jun 27, 2019 |
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Jun 27, 2019 20:40
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edit - wrong thread
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Relentless posted:So, the frustrating part of this is that most blue states are going California un-gerrymandered itself because everyone was so comfortably secured that they became as arrogant as early 2000s CA Dems were. CA Republicans that spend taxpayer money on cruises with their mistresses and buying video games on Steam are, surprise, from the hardened red counties. So yes, in this case is the path that avoids a trainwreck of government. Reserving seats for specific parties just results in the shittiest person of that party landing there.
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Inglonias posted:They actually seemed to say "Everyone knows this isn't ok but hell if we're gonna do anything about it" which somehow feels worse? Yeah even the loving National Review said that gerrymandering is bad. Though that was while still agreeing with the court's decision, so it might just be a case of 'oh we can score some easy moderate points here without actually affecting anything.' Also, time to be outraged again: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/alabama-woman-charged-in-fetal-death-her-shooter-goes-free/ar-AADvl7t?ocid=spartanntp Moktaro fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Jun 28, 2019 |
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Jun 28, 2019 05:00
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https://twitter.com/Deadspin/status/1144714252139343872 Desperately hoping that they win the cup so Trump can go into a pants-making GBS threads rage about it.
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Jun 29, 2019 05:00
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I will never get over how right-wingers get so angry about women with dyed hair. What a loving stupid thing to care so much about. A person (although they usually complain about women) has blue hair. Why do you care so much.
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Jun 29, 2019 05:38
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Xiahou Dun posted:I will never get over how right-wingers get so angry about women with dyed hair. Change is bad. Styles/music/fashion/comedy peaked when I was 25. That was the moment. My employer read some lovely Megan McArdle article a couple years ago and decided that the fact that people don’t double space after periods was the worst thing ever. Send him an email that isn’t double spaced and he’ll respond “grammar” Because the way it was when I was in school should be eternal.
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Jun 29, 2019 06:14
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Language is immutable. I know this because um ah I am very intelligent and uh
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Jun 29, 2019 06:37
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Xiahou Dun posted:I will never get over how right-wingers get so angry about women with dyed hair. The purpose of women (to them) is to be attractive, and they don’t find it attractive. Even worse when it’s a woman they would think was very attractive otherwise. Tattoos (and learnings, to some extent) are similar.
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Jun 29, 2019 08:01
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xrunner posted:Change is bad. Styles/music/fashion/comedy peaked when I was 25. That was the moment. I hate this so much. Not you. Your boss and their moronic adherence to a dumb grammar rule that isn't even grammar. It's a style rule.
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Jun 29, 2019 12:41
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I double space because it's literally an unthinking reflex to double tap the space bar bashed into my head after years of computer classes in elementary school, but demanding that of others is such a shitheel thing to do what a weirdo
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Jun 29, 2019 12:48
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Captain Invictus posted:I double space because it's literally an unthinking reflex to double tap the space bar bashed into my head after years of computer classes in elementary school, but demanding that of others is such a shitheel thing to do Yeah for me its from learning to type on a typewriter instead of a word processor. I can't not double space. Its never ever come up though, and my most embarrassing office email foul has been an inappropriately enthusiastic reply-all about a las vegas themed party. To keep things on target though; Putin seems to respect Elton John's music, but his being a homosexual is just a step too far.. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...s-idUSKCN1TU0HB
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Captain Invictus posted:I double space because it's literally an unthinking reflex to double tap the space bar bashed into my head after years of computer classes in elementary school, but demanding that of others is such a shitheel thing to do Most forums actually strip out the second space when you hit post. It's been like that for a good ten years.
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Jun 29, 2019 19:00
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Most forums actually strip out the second space when you hit post. It's been like that for a good ten years. All HTML renderers collapse multiple consecutive spaces by default, and have done so since 1994ish. Forums don’t have to do anything special to make that happen. Data Graham fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Jun 29, 2019 |
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Jun 29, 2019 19:02
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Data Graham posted:All HTML renderers collapse multiple consecutive spaces by default, and have done so since 1994ish. Forums don’t have to do anything special to make that happen. This. A proper font spaces appropriately automatically. The real reason why you shouldn't bother double spacing after punctuation anymore is because automatic kearning looks nicer, so just let the machines do the labor for you. It took a long time to break my double-spacing habit, and I learned how to type before I could read because my dad has taught keyboarding since electric typewriters were a thing...so if I can unlearn deeply ingrained muscle memory, anyone can.
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Jun 29, 2019 20:51
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Lol at using periods who cares about punctuation it's 2019
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Jun 29, 2019 21:13
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Garrand posted:Lol at using periods who cares about punctuation it's 2019 And yet you used an apostrophe! CURIOUS!
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Jun 29, 2019 21:15
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HootTheOwl posted:And yet you used an apostrophe! CURIOUS! I, am very intelligent!
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Jun 29, 2019 21:18
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I double tap after every sentence to make sure it's dead
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Jun 29, 2019 23:48
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Xand_Man posted:I double tap after every sentence to make sure it's dead Stealing this for my next chat with my editor.
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Jun 30, 2019 00:04
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:if I can [do thing], anyone can. Welcome to the Republican Party
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The Bloop posted:Welcome to the Republican Party Geezus, you're right. Let me strike that from my loving vocab immediately. Brb, Silkwood showering away the shame. That said, srsly, in the name of typography, consider not using 2 spaces.
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I won't unlearn double spacing because in the near future of ecological destruction and the end of modern technologies I'll have to go back to typewriters to leave poo poo posts for the roaches.
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Jun 30, 2019 19:12
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Double-spacing looks bad even on typewriters.
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Jun 30, 2019 19:26
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Lambert posted:Double-spacing looks bad even on typewriters.
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:That said, srsly, in the name of typography, consider not using 2 spaces.
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Jul 1, 2019 03:22
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Truly this is the most pressing thing, worthy of our discussion all
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Jul 1, 2019 03:29
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You guys all sound like Ghiaccio over here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDGYkpWvhRs
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Jul 1, 2019 03:31
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2 space or not 2 space? That is the question.
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xrunner posted:Change is bad. Styles/music/fashion/comedy peaked when I was 25. That was the moment. Lol this is a rule literally left over from the days of typewriters, made to apply to typewriters.
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