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McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008
Ow my soul.

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DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


hahahhahahahahhahahaha

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

hahahhahahahahhahahaha

XkyRauh
Feb 15, 2005

Commander Keen is my hero.
"We can fix it in post!" :gonk:

reignonyourparade
Nov 15, 2012

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

hahahhahahahahhahahaha

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

hahahhahahahahhahahaha

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Airspace posted:

Honestly that Maggie(?) model is... well, I don't mind it.

It's the background that gets me. Are those plants clipping through the ground?

Edit: poo poo I didn't even notice the sword, that's terrible.

That's not Maggie. That's Paige, a new character in the new book. Before the grand 3D transition, she looked like this:


I think they're not really happy with the distinctive "amateur 3D model" look they've ended up with (for example, that sword, and the picture of the tower among the trees in the current update). So they're running their 3D renders through a cel-shading filter to restore the kinds of sharp lines they used to have with inked art, and then they're importing the result into Photoshop and running a bunch of "blur" and "smudge" filters on them to hide the low quality of their models, give everything some extra texture, and impart a more conventional 2D art look. For example, the shot of the typewriter and books a couple pages ago is probably what they're really going for.

Except they're still experimenting with it, and using different amounts of filtering depending on the shot and what kind of models they're using (I severely doubt they modeled the typewriter and books themselves). So sometimes they overprocess it and end up with a smeary mess that looks like they let a five-year-old with watercolors do the coloring. Also, the trees in the second image on the page are just the same tree copy-pasted over and over again, with each copy slightly rotated or resized. Every single one has identical leaves.

The writing is worse than usual, too. I can barely tell what it's even saying half the time, and there's several typoes and missing words. Is he just making GBS threads out crap updates to get the Patreon money flowing again now that the Kickstarter money dropped off after only $15k or so?

Joe Slowboat
Nov 9, 2016

Higgledy-Piggledy Whale Statements



McTimmy posted:

Ow my soul.

This is where I am. Also goddamn comparing that slimy poser-meets-fingerpaints mess to the characterful line drawing of the same character... ow, HER soul, too.

John_A_Tallon
Nov 22, 2000

Oh my! Check out that mitre!

Main Paineframe posted:

Is he just making GBS threads out crap updates to get the Patreon money flowing again now that the Kickstarter money dropped off after only $15k or so?

Yes

Joe Slowboat
Nov 9, 2016

Higgledy-Piggledy Whale Statements



You know, I have to say: This makes the webnovel version of Erfworld look much better. I mean, I still wouldn't read it, but goddamn does that art detract rather than add.

Maybe if this new engine got used solely for establishing location shots, and some careful illustrations like close-ups of inanimate objects and so on, little embellishments, it could even make a webnovel a bit easier on the eyes.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
Someone please combine :shepface: with :munch:, a la :suspense:

nimby
Nov 4, 2009

The pinnacle of cloud computing.



When does he cut off his ear?

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

So he's gone from, "we'll be using 3D for shots of cityscapes that are difficult to illustrate by hand" to "we'll be using 3D for absolutely everything, it's a Poser comic now"?

This is really funny and sad. I get the zeal towards asset efficiency, but it's not coming from a dude who has a strong understanding of visual art.

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



Android Blues posted:

I get the zeal towards asset efficiency, but it's not coming from a dude who has a strong understanding of visual art.
It hurts even more when you realize this was what the artists were contending with all this time. Behold Genius!

nimby
Nov 4, 2009

The pinnacle of cloud computing.



Coming next year:
Erfworld by Gmod.

lurksion
Mar 21, 2013
TBF there were some decent gmod comics a decade ago.

jfc we're old

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything
Erfworld was designed as a deliberately generic setting so I'm not sure why Balder crawled up his own rear end with worldbuilding.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Ague Proof posted:

Erfworld was designed as a deliberately generic setting so I'm not sure why Balder crawled up his own rear end with worldbuilding.

Spiderdrake posted:

Behold Genius!


Also, I just can't help but feel supremely bad for all of his artists. It's pretty easy to read between the lines and see why he can never hold onto one for long.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006

The Suffering of the Succotash.

lurksion posted:

TBF there were some decent gmod comics a decade ago.

jfc we're old

Concerned and...?

A big flaming stink
Apr 26, 2010

PMush Perfect posted:

Also, I just can't help but feel supremely bad for all of his artists. It's pretty easy to read between the lines and see why he can never hold onto one for long.

don't we have extremely convincing circumstantial evidence that the "terrible thing on par with cancer" that balder posted about was him being court-ordered to pay remuneration to one of his former artists?

Donkringel
Apr 22, 2008

A big flaming stink posted:

don't we have extremely convincing circumstantial evidence that the "terrible thing on par with cancer" that balder posted about was him being court-ordered to pay remuneration to one of his former artists?

I don't think so, just a lot of people guessing that and regurgitating people's prior guesswork (of which I was one). Still that's my guess, though I wouldn't say it is certain.

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

A big flaming stink posted:

don't we have extremely convincing circumstantial evidence that the "terrible thing on par with cancer" that balder posted about was him being court-ordered to pay remuneration to one of his former artists?

Not really? Just one Reddit post from some guy who claimed one of the artists personally told him all that. For me, that's "uncle who works at Nintendo" levels of reliability.

Zoe
Jan 19, 2007
Hair Elf

Pawg From Produce posted:




Welcome to the new Erfworld
lmbo, I can't get over how ugly this is. I'm poo poo at all forms of art and yet I'm fairly certain I could produce similar results with 15 minutes of MSPaint.

I thought it was Maggie, too.

Main Paineframe posted:

That's not Maggie. That's Paige, a new character in the new book. Before the grand 3D transition, she looked like this:



what the hell was he thinking

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


everything after parson threw the sword into to volcano didn’t happen. axe it like the old Star Wars EU

Grogquock
May 2, 2009

Zoe posted:

lmbo, I can't get over how ugly this is. I'm poo poo at all forms of art and yet I'm fairly certain I could produce similar results with 15 minutes of MSPaint.

I thought it was Maggie, too.


what the hell was he thinking

Clearly the fact that that the sword has replaced her hand shows that she has abandoned the pen and her pacifist, isolationist ways, and is committed to the coming war. Surely it wouldn't be too hard to add little pink fingers gripping the sword so it must have been intentional. You really have to read everything into the art you can to even have a chance of understanding the "magic" and "rules" of the system, I mean comic. Remember all the posts about how he agonized over every panel of artwork, and kept sending them back for corrections? Now you can expect perfect fidelity to the vision every time.

Oh and just wait until there are 5+ people in a room together. I think that smudge on the left is supposed to be...

Grogquock fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Jul 8, 2019

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
I made a good decision to stop reading and wait for this nightmare to be over. I hope it's being rightfully poo poo on.

John_A_Tallon
Nov 22, 2000

Oh my! Check out that mitre!
The spineless ones funding Balder's bad decisions are incapable of taking a stance beyond "the art would be okay in a vacuum."

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything
Because it sucks?

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
What I really don't get is why Rob "Send it back four times because minor details are off" Balder would be okay with such mushy art.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008

PMush Perfect posted:

What I really don't get is why Rob "Send it back four times because minor details are off" Balder would be okay with such mushy art.

Needs his cash.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

McTimmy posted:

Needs his cash.
Who wants to run a betting pool on the next hare-brained scheme to fund ErfWorld. My bet is MLM.

McTimmy
Feb 29, 2008

PMush Perfect posted:

Who wants to run a betting pool on the next hare-brained scheme to fund ErfWorld. My bet is MLM.

Erfworld visual novel.

Gann Jerrod
Sep 9, 2005

A gun isn't a gun unless it shoots Magic.
You will know Rob’s in trouble when he finally does a Erfworld tabletop game, it’s the ultimate panic button.

Geocities Homepage King
Nov 26, 2007

I have good news, and I have bad news.
Which do you want to hear first...?

Gann Jerrod posted:

You will know Rob’s in trouble when he finally does a Erfworld tabletop game, it’s the ultimate panic button.

This will never happen because the rule book would have to be several inches thick to make him happy.

No, seriously. I'm pretty sure he said at one point that was the issue with making a computer game. Too many rules.

Pawg From Produce
Feb 11, 2019

by FactsAreUseless
I can't believe the erotic artwork wasn't the bottom of the barrel for funding schemes.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
It wasn't even the middle of the barrel.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
At this point Erfworld could be an actual porn comic and have more dignity than this art.

It could be a Sprite Comic with more dignity

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


frankly this art is a a sidegrade at worst from the first half of book 3. when you look at the gorgeous noguchi book 1 stuff compared to everything that came after it’s such a dramatic step down

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

frankly this art is a a sidegrade at worst from the first half of book 3. when you look at the gorgeous noguchi book 1 stuff compared to everything that came after it’s such a dramatic step down
That could be said about literally every aspect of book 1, it doesn't feel fair to compare that to the rest of the comic any more.

XkyRauh
Feb 15, 2005

Commander Keen is my hero.
"walk, walk, walk... balk" is one of the earliest moments in the comic, and remains one of my favorite gags. :)

Pawg From Produce
Feb 11, 2019

by FactsAreUseless
Disgusting slob parson was so great.

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Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
"Congratulations, my lord... t'was a splendidly speedy defection!"

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