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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Are we.. good at this?

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Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

The new episode really went on a journey.

Doubtful Guest
Jun 23, 2008

Meanwhile, Conradin made himself another piece of toazzzzzzt.
You don't have to be right. You just have to have a phone.

Loved their little unhappy New York vignettes and the Sonic rampage.

TheDiceMustRoll
Jul 23, 2018

The_Doctor posted:

Rewatched the White Rice episode last night, and christ, that wanders far too close to being out and out racism. The get out of Francine having Asian parents isn’t actually the get out the show thinks it is.

I mean, isn't that the "meta" of the episode? As far as I can recall, her show doesn't make it past a single episode because it's offensive garbage.

Edit: Re: The Sonic Bullying scenes. Can someone make a gif of them jumping on the car while Francine does the monkey and Jeff eats taters? That was a really great and loopable image

limp_cheese
Sep 10, 2007


Nothing to see here. Move along.

"I hope you guys like ham sliders" killed me. That was a fun episode that covered a lot of ground.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
Best use of MMMBop. :colbert:

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


my son's rear end on my window, my alien's dick in the gas, and the open road in front of me

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Nichael posted:

my son's rear end on my window, my alien's dick in the gas, and the open road in front of me

Roger with his dick in the tank while they are driving away looking satisfied cracked me up.

That episode was everywhere, but god drat the shots of NYC looked gorgeous.

I am a little to into Hayley's New York look.

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



"Steve's girlfriend. She's 50, but looks ... 57?"

Happy b-day to Wendy School, while I'm at it!

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Might be my favorite episode the season

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
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Not enough strangers physically escort you places.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Milo and POTUS posted:

Might be my favorite episode the season

It's been a really strong season too. So many people have said it, but how the gently caress does this show stay this consistent 15 years in?

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Well? Does anybody know?

People can't even pin down just exactly where or even when simpsons turned bad so it's probably equally a mystery why this is still so fresh.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Milo and POTUS posted:

Well? Does anybody know?

People can't even pin down just exactly where or even when simpsons turned bad so it's probably equally a mystery why this is still so fresh.

The Simpsons got noticeably worse in season 10.

American Dad probably got noticeably better in season two or three, never really declined.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Nichael posted:

The Simpsons got noticeably worse in season 10.

American Dad probably got noticeably better in season two or three, never really declined.

I dunno I remember there being a stretch of somewhat mediocre episodes that happened after Hayley and Jeff got married(notably Jeff basically isn't in most of them, leading to my theory that they were leftover scripts from earlier seasons that they dug out so they could be lazy), and some of the episodes during the period where Jeff was in space weren't all that great either

Also they need to apply the lesson they learned with Hayley to Steve already, that lesson being that dating plots in animated sitcoms get tired and worn out after about 10 to 20 uses*, so after a while you should just have the character get a semi permanent significant other, they did it with Hayley(even if they did loophole it for a while with the whole Jeff In Space arc), and they need to do it with Steve as well

*which makes it all the worse that they've done it with Steve somewhere between 40 and 60 times

drrockso20 fucked around with this message at 11:34 on Jul 3, 2019

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Who. Who has steve dated 40 to 60 times

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Milo and POTUS posted:

Who. Who has steve dated 40 to 60 times

Snot.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Milo and POTUS posted:

Who. Who has steve dated 40 to 60 times

I meant that they've done plots about him trying to get a girlfriend around that many times(and most of which sucked), not that there's a singular person he dated that many times

Coaaab
Aug 6, 2006

Wish I was there...
I'm really glad that the TBS seasons have refrained from the well of "Steve's dating plots" and that the few we still get have been really good. I'm also happy that the writers have not been gun-shy about writing for Jeff in the past season or so; for the longest time, it felt like they weren't able to fit him into the family dynamic ever since the marriage.

TheFattestPat
Dec 28, 2012

Santa Cat Says: Good deeds are the things to always do, just make sure someone is watching you
There's something so wonderful about watching the whole family trash a Sonic.

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

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Stan... I've been meaning to tell you; you can see the outline of your penis through your sweatpants.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
I don't think there's that many steve dating plots, especially post debbie. The only person steve dates is

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


TheFattestPat posted:

There's something so wonderful about watching the whole family trash a Sonic.

The shot where the music cuts off and a smiling Francine is doing the Monkey while the rest of the family trashes a car is pure art.

"Being mean is fun!"

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Milo and POTUS posted:

I don't think there's that many steve dating plots, especially post debbie. The only person steve dates is

I'm counting the times he's trying to get someone to date him and fails as well

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

Milo and POTUS posted:

Well? Does anybody know?

People can't even pin down just exactly where or even when simpsons turned bad so it's probably equally a mystery why this is still so fresh.

I dunno, but it helps that they have a really talented cast, and the writers allow each character to be terrible.

Bogus Adventure
Jan 11, 2017

More like "Bulges Adventure"

Milo and POTUS posted:

I don't think there's that many steve dating plots, especially post debbie. The only person steve dates is

To be fair, he also dated Stan. He just didn't know it. I love that episode because it gave us this:

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Milo and POTUS posted:

Well? Does anybody know?

People can't even pin down just exactly where or even when simpsons turned bad so it's probably equally a mystery why this is still so fresh.

It's a few things, I think.

- Roger is one of the best TV characters ever. Capable of doing anything, even his "boring" characters are hilarious because they mock the sadness of suburban American life.

- All the characters are well-developed. I think I heard somewhere that this show picked up a bunch of writers from the cancellation of another animated show, like Futurama or Family Guy, and it just retained them forever. The writers seem to actually remember nuances to the characters that they can play with. Nothing in the Simpsons has stuck the last 18 years; it's like most of the writers for the Simpsons stopped watching the Simpsons in Season 12 like everyone else.

- Economy of storytelling. This show gets right to it in Act 1, taking the harder path of making jokes out of a naturally evolving story rather than making Act 1 a separate story. Like, the best part of this episode was their lives in New York. If the Simpsons were telling the same story, the episode would have ended with the family pacifying a mob by magically knowing Stomp because it would have spent Act 1 dicking around on a random sidenote like "What if Homer owned a cell phone kiosk at the mall?"

TheDiceMustRoll
Jul 23, 2018

PostNouveau posted:

It's a few things, I think.

- Roger is one of the best TV characters ever. Capable of doing anything, even his "boring" characters are hilarious because they mock the sadness of suburban American life.

- All the characters are well-developed. I think I heard somewhere that this show picked up a bunch of writers from the cancellation of another animated show, like Futurama or Family Guy, and it just retained them forever. The writers seem to actually remember nuances to the characters that they can play with. Nothing in the Simpsons has stuck the last 18 years; it's like most of the writers for the Simpsons stopped watching the Simpsons in Season 12 like everyone else.

- Economy of storytelling. This show gets right to it in Act 1, taking the harder path of making jokes out of a naturally evolving story rather than making Act 1 a separate story. Like, the best part of this episode was their lives in New York. If the Simpsons were telling the same story, the episode would have ended with the family pacifying a mob by magically knowing Stomp because it would have spent Act 1 dicking around on a random sidenote like "What if Homer owned a cell phone kiosk at the mall?"

American Dad also has a tendency to have little tangent/side characters that never appear again, but shine like a diamond when they appear.

Examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQwSCM0C-54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0wpvRCdir0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7nKxPi5pEI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xYWOaMgEwo


There's also a tendency towards surrealism, to the point where if I didn't know how much work it took to make an animated show, would be some trolls shitposting in television form.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bwOYHtFAGs
Stuff like that happened in this season, like the "dogfather" joke. That entire episode is completely nonsensical and it's great.

There's more, but you get my point.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
YOU ARE MY QUEEN, REBECCA
is the single greatest one scene character line

Davros1
Jul 19, 2007

You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible



Buckle calling into the radio show was great.

Levin
Jun 28, 2005


Party Plane Jones posted:

YOU ARE MY QUEEN, REBECCA
is the single greatest one scene character line

Agreed. I'm so glad this thread is going strong and there's still such love for this show. Latest episode was probably my favourite of the season so far, I had no idea where it was going and loved all the twists. Hard to pick a particular scene I liked the most but Steve's dry conversation with his 50 year-old partner would be up there.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
Who wants to hold baby Hector...?

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem
I haven't seen an episode of Family Guy for, probably, the better part of a decade. Are the main characters still so hateful towards one another?

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
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Mordja posted:

I haven't seen an episode of Family Guy for, probably, the better part of a decade. Are the main characters still so hateful towards one another?

Depends on the episode, but yes. Meh gets the brunt of it, though.

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames

Mordja posted:

I haven't seen an episode of Family Guy for, probably, the better part of a decade. Are the main characters still so hateful towards one another?

IMHO this has been radically toned down over the last two seasons, and I suspect it has something to do with a batch of new writers.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
Last time I checked in with FG it was still doing borderline /not even borderline racist/misogynistic/homophobic/transphobic jokes. And that was maybe 5 years ago?

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

The_Doctor posted:

Last time I checked in with FG it was still doing borderline /not even borderline racist/misogynistic/homophobic/transphobic jokes. And that was maybe 5 years ago?

MacFarlane has said they are dialing back the gay jokes.

Vietnamwees
May 8, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

Mister Kingdom posted:

MacFarlane has said they are dialing back the gay jokes.

I thought that was Family Guy's best feature!?

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine
Considering Disney now owns them, I figure Family Guy is either going to be quietly canceled as soon as possible(cause they've made way too many direct attacks at both Disney as a company, and Walt Disney as a person for them to be comfortable supporting it as an ongoing production), or they'll sell it off to someone else as soon as possible

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The Croc
Dec 19, 2004

A-well-a everybody's heard about the bird!

OH YEAH!



Mordja posted:

I haven't seen an episode of Family Guy for, probably, the better part of a decade. Are the main characters still so hateful towards one another?

They are but the last couple of seasons have had some good laughs. Its not fine art but it feels like a small upswing for whatever reason.

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