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He drank the leaded gasoline because to him getting sick and having others get sick was preferable to the risk of lawsuits by workers and not getting paid obscene amounts of money.
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Did a little fact checking and it looks like we both need to do more fact checking. Dumbass sniffed it for 60 seconds. (My cursory fact check showed no results for him drinking any, so I assumed that bit was fabrication. Turns out, nope! Just a little hyperbole.)
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:I feel like scientists of that era can get a bit of leniency for stuff they didn't know would be bad. We've known about the greenhouse effect from CO2 since 1896.
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Jul 10, 2019 02:45
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We've known lead was bad since like Pliny the Elder.
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There was a significant amount of science saying that lead, especially aerosolized, would be horribly toxic to everything on earth. There were also equally viable, and much less toxic ways to improve octane, but Midgley was a dick and did what he wanted. This is the same dude who created and promoted Freon, too.
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Jul 10, 2019 03:02
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Yeah midleys only redeeming quality was how he died. He was the Mitch McConnell of his time, truly.
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Mustached Demon posted:We've known lead was bad since like Pliny the Elder. True but he also had a whole book on cures using parts of dragons, so not exactly the best source. I do treat hangovers with the ashes of a burned wolf's head though. That's just science.
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Xiahou Dun posted:True but he also had a whole book on cures using parts of dragons, so not exactly the best source. The cures work just fine. We just aren't trying hard enough to train dragon slayers to get the parts for us.
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Dirt Road Junglist posted:There was a significant amount of science saying that lead, especially aerosolized, would be horribly toxic to everything on earth. Thomas Midgley Jr. is a hilariously deserving lightning rod of hate but focusing your hate on him is myopic. He worked for General Motors. General Motors pushed tetraethyl lead, drat the consequences, because they (through Midgley and his boss Kettering) had the patent on it and it was in the fact the most economical known anti-knock agent at the time. Ethanol was also known at the time as a great anti-knock agent but was much more expensive and killing the profit margin for gasoline. As for CFCs, those were invented by a group at Frigidaire that Midgley was a part of. Who owned Frigidaire? loving General Motors. The worst part with CFCs is, they probably would've been okay if they had just been used as refrigerants. If that were the case, a whole lot less of them would have been vented to the atmosphere and the crackdown when the ozone damage was eventually noticed could be focused making sure people recapture CFCs when venting refrigeration systems. But CFCs are ridiculously inert to the human body so they were used as propellants in everything from hairspray to asthma inhalers, all going into the atmosphere at a ridiculous rate. General Motors is possibly the corporation to do the most non-war time damage to humanity during the mid-20th century; Thomas Midgley Jr. is just a common denominator in their worst work.
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So he really is the Mitch McConnell of his time!
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Hunt11 posted:The cures work just fine. We just aren't trying hard enough to train dragon slayers to get the parts for us. The dragons were hunted to extinction because of those cures.
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LtStorm posted:General Motors is possibly the corporation to do the most non-war time damage to humanity during the mid-20th century; The problem with this statement is that GM is also a defense contractor.
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Jul 10, 2019 13:29
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https://mobile.twitter.com/AP/status/1148623110146592773 This will end well...
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Silver2195 posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/AP/status/1148623110146592773 Skynet was too subtle for real life haha
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sean10mm posted:Skynet was too subtle for real life haha Science Fiction: should we hand all of humanity's weapons over to this nascent A.I.? Hmm... Reality: flip the switch already! We're losing 2.7 million per hour to all this red tape!
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War Cloud? Did someone beat us to Storm Cloud?
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FoolyCharged posted:No, no. Get this. What if we put all our highly classified info in one place on the internet ? It's not like that's opening the potential for one of the biggest security breaches ever. They already do.
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sean10mm posted:Skynet was too subtle for real life haha It’s also probably going to be named Skynet because someone thinks they’re being funny.
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HelloSailorSign posted:It’s also probably going to be named Skynet because someone thinks they’re being funny. My bet's on WOPR.
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HootTheOwl posted:They already do. This. And it's not so much about ai as it is not wanting to maintain a bunch of data centers that periodically shut down or change leadership, causing havok in the brittle, cockeyed tower of babble of bespoke applications the DoD relies on for pretty much everything. From the article: quote:Formally called the Joint Enterprise Defense Infrastructure plan, or JEDI, 
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LtStorm posted:Thomas Midgley Jr. is a hilariously deserving lightning rod of hate but focusing your hate on him is myopic. He worked for General Motors. General Motors pushed tetraethyl lead, drat the consequences, because they (through Midgley and his boss Kettering) had the patent on it and it was in the fact the most economical known anti-knock agent at the time. Ethanol was also known at the time as a great anti-knock agent but was much more expensive and killing the profit margin for gasoline. On the other hand, you can't name a single, individual organism to have a a great effect on the atmosphere than Midgley Jr.
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Solkanar512 posted:On the other hand, you can't name a single, individual organism to have a a great effect on the atmosphere than Midgley Jr. Whichever bacterium was the first to accomplish photosynthesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Oxidation_Event
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VitalSigns posted:Whichever bacterium was the first to accomplish photosynthesis I said "single, individual organism".
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Solkanar512 posted:I said "single, individual organism". The single individual bacterium that first accomplished PS is responsible for all the others. Midgley also didn't personally, single-handedly spray all the freons into the atmosphere.
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And by a strange coincidence, that bacterium's name was also Thomas Midgley, Jr
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VitalSigns posted:And by a strange coincidence, that bacterium's name was also Thomas Midgley, Jr Thomas Midgley, Sr. Sr. Sr. Sr. Sr. Sr. Sr...
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Silver2195 posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/AP/status/1148623110146592773 Hideo Kojima was ahead of his time.
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https://twitter.com/rawstory/status/1149145069045374976?s=21 The court docs have a few interesting tidbits that I’ll read from a proper computer later.
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His supporters will end up saying it's praiseworthy. Well maybe Pelosi won't go quite that far
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That's good https://twitter.com/politico/status/1149267104165715969
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What is this? My only experience with drug rebates was realizing it's a scam the manufacturers are playing where they charged $20k for a plastic device that delivers a shot 26 hours after it's installed, but then after rebate my insurance was only charged $5k. And everyone knows it's a scam to the point that the hospital asked me if I'd like to participate in a rebate program and had already filled out the paperwork for me.
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HootTheOwl posted:What is this? I'm not sure, I just assume that every Trump proposed policy is terrible ahead of time. 99% of the time that assumption turns out to be correct.
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https://twitter.com/DMRegister/status/1150132805403385856Des Moines Register posted:A Sioux City couple is accused of smuggling a Guatemalan girl into the country and locking her in their Iowa home, where the girl says she was repeatedly raped before she escaped, court documents show. This is so strange and bizarre ... the guy states that the mistake he made was taking the people in, and not ... I donno ... raping a vulnerable minor?!?! It's almost like this story is setup to feed into the narrative of "those aren't really families coming over" when the narrative should be "these are extremely desperate people that are being taken advantage of". Ginger Beer Belly fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Jul 13, 2019 |
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It is bizarre and I suspect we have been and will see more of it. Something is making our country mentally sick, we can only guess what's causing it, and we don't nearly have enough mental health support to fix it.
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Ginger Beer Belly posted:https://twitter.com/DMRegister/status/1150132805403385856 Seems like the narrative for some reason is “white people are being pedophile rapists to a spectacular degree”
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Freakazoid_ posted:It is bizarre and I suspect we have been and will see more of it. Something is making our country mentally sick, we can only guess what's causing it, and we don't nearly have enough mental health support to fix it. It's lead.
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mycomancy posted:It's lead. 
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mycomancy posted:It's lead. Eh, I don't see it. Feels to me more like rapacious late stage capitalism turning the country's economy into a blighted hellscape of suffering and the resultant social fraying that comes from that.
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mycomancy posted:It's lead. And unwantedness, whole shitloads of people were born to parents that didn't want them, before widespread use of the pill and the legalization of abortion.
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