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FactsAreUseless posted:This is inaccurate, but it's also for young adults, by definition. If you're reading it and going "ah, how childish," read something else. *picks up The Diggingest Dog* a marked improvement, thank you for the suggestion.
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Young adults are a terrible genre of person, and their literature merely reflects this.
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Jul 11, 2019 22:07
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The worst genre of person is erotic thriller imo
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christmas boots posted:The worst genre of person is erotic thriller imo Now, young man, this is no way to talk about your mother!
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Jul 11, 2019 23:30
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i liked Interstellar Pig, that's YA
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Jul 11, 2019 23:31
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really all genre fiction is already low-reading-level, why have a separate designation for YA? i loved dune when I was 12
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Jul 11, 2019 23:35
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Doc Hawkins posted:really all genre fiction is already low-reading-level, why have a separate designation for YA? i loved dune when I was 12 Because like most designations for books it's really more of an indicator for the kinds of characters and stories in them. Young Adult stories are usually about young adults.
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Doc Hawkins posted:really all genre fiction is already low-reading-level, why have a separate designation for YA? i loved dune when I was 12 That was my point exactly. Either your book is good, and even adults can enjoy it, or it's bad and only teenagers who don't know better yet can find it good.
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Lobok posted:Because like most designations for books it's really more of an indicator for the kinds of characters and stories in them. Young Adult stories are usually about young adults. paul muad'dib, who is called usul among us, is a young adult fighting to take down an evil empire
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the characters in Wuthering Heights are pretty young, for most of it
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Doc Hawkins posted:i liked Interstellar Pig, that's YA
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All this talk about how people hate Twilight just because it’s for teen girls makes me think I ought to hate it just so nobody thinks I’m Jeffrey Epstein or somethingDoc Hawkins posted:i liked Interstellar Pig, that's YA poo poo I read that when I was a kid and I’ve been trying to remember what it was called, thanks!
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Pirate Radar posted:poo poo I read that when I was a kid and I’ve been trying to remember what it was called, thanks! I'm amused by how it's a recurring request in the "Help me ID this book I can't remember" thread in the Book Barn.
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Jul 12, 2019 01:11
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Dumb Lowtax posted:That's weird, I just saved all those quotes to a file the other day before archives eats the post's formatting forever. What timing for you to ask that. This is just too good 
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FactsAreUseless posted:This is inaccurate, but it's also for young adults, by definition. If you're reading it and going "ah, how childish," read something else. The problem is all the people who are absolutely not young, and probably not adults, but still read this and get extremely het up about it on the internet.
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Animorphs series
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FactsAreUseless posted:Sleator wrote some good YA sci-fi, I loved Singularity when I was 12 holy poo poo i found that book in a goodwill as a child and read it a bunch of times. i remember it being really good
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Sulla Faex posted:i thought tarantino had a foot thing because he's ethnically half-foot? thatbastardken posted:nah man he just hates turtles We're already in the quote thread, so I just wanted you to know somebody saw this and appreciated it (Also I thought the Tarantino Shot was the one from inside the trunk of the car)
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sunken fleet posted:the relationship between the werewolf and the day old baby it was actually spelled out explicitly in the text as non-romanatic.... Lol do go on
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This is weird; I reread Interstellar Pig just a couple days ago. It holds up nicely, as does Oddballs.
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on the subject of OhioBarudak posted:a state 100% dedicated to 24/7 brigadoon larping on the subject of YA fiction, which is to say fiction about and for young adults, it's really hard to top Robert Cormier; the man was both compassionate and brutal, and I don't know that a lot of YA authors are really working in that vein anymore since young people are culturally conditioned to be, for the most part, clout-chasing uwu pudding-brains
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FactsAreUseless posted:This is inaccurate, but it's also for young adults, by definition. If you're reading it and going "ah, how childish," read something else. I'm currently reading House of Leaves and I feel like I need to take a step down in reading level. Holy poo poo this book is DENSE.
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Untrustable posted:I'm currently reading House of Leaves and I feel like I need to take a step down in reading level. Holy poo poo this book is DENSE. Some novels are intentionally impenetrable and everything I have ever read about House of Leaves leads me to suspect that's the case with that book.
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Pastry of the Year posted:on the subject of Ohio
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Untrustable posted:I'm currently reading House of Leaves and I feel like I need to take a step down in reading level. Holy poo poo this book is DENSE. House of Leaves is at once both one of my favorite books of all time, and one I never, ever want to read again.
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YA fiction seems to be one of those things where one or two people make a bazillion dollars every few years and everyone else fights ravenously over the scraps, and the online scene is a knife fight in a phone booth, iirc there was that one scandal where an author was #cancelled and had an online mob go after her for having the villains in her book about how racism is bad say racist things.
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Pastry of the Year posted:on the subject of Ohio
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Ghost Leviathan posted:YA fiction seems to be one of those things where one or two people make a bazillion dollars every few years and everyone else fights ravenously over the scraps, and the online scene is a knife fight in a phone booth, iirc there was that one scandal where an author was #cancelled and had an online mob go after her for having the villains in her book about how racism is bad say racist things. That's every thing.
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Fleta Mcgurn posted:Same here, and the weird part is that I recognized the stuff I didn't really like ("panties!") and went "eh" and read it anyways The first Piers Anthony I read was a series and I didn't really get suspicious until the very end where an elderly pedophile in a position of authority falls in love with a 12 year old prostitute (a sex slave who does scat shows) and everybody sees that their love is good and perfect so they're allowed to get married and God is fired from His job and the pedo is put in charge of the universe instead. Then the last chapter is an open letter from Anthony himself to an emotionally troubled 14 year old fan telling her how special and beautiful she is even if nobody else understands her. Sorry if thats a spoiler. Then I read The Color of Her Panties (plaid IIRC, because nobody understands her) and started noticing a pattern. I think the last chapter was another open letter to a real adolescent girl about how special he thinks she is. Or maybe that was another one, this was a long time ago. I flipped through a few more of his books and it seemed like the last chapters were all love letters to young female fans, who probably shouldn't run away from home to fall in love with an older gentleman who really loves and understands them, just in case they were thinking about doing that. At some point I developed A Hypothesis. I mean yeah, there's YA books that are cool because your parents probably wouldn't let you read them if they knew the weird stuff that was in them (my sister mentioned the Flowers in the Attic series as good hosed up creepy stuff) and those are fun. And then there's grooming. fake edit: I just looked at a random Anthony book. Its about a special magical 12 year old girl that nobody understands. The last chapter is an open letter from him. "As Xanth enters its teens—this is number thirteen—it is maturing, developing new awarenesses, touching on more serious matters, and putting aside some of its childish things, though with luck it will never grow up enough to join the Adult Conspiracy." The next few pages are about the fan he wrote the book for, a very special and vulnerable 12 year old girl that he has strong protective feelings for, and all the things he's done for her. Eventually he got to meet her and see her in the pretty gown and shoes he'd bought her. "But that was it. Jenny was very tired. She had to return to her room, and lie down, and then she was taken back to the hospital. I visited her there the next day and read a story to her and her similarly paralyzed friend Kathy. Next day I returned to Florida, with a red artificial rose from Jenny's corsage. I still have that rose." So um that's all on the up-and-up I guess? fake edit 2: Wikipedia says he wrote a non fiction book about their relationship  Huh. Took me a moment to realize the old guy is typing at a computer, not roaming through some secret magical garden of pretty children. Not literally, anyways. Syd Midnight has a new favorite as of 15:08 on Jul 12, 2019 |
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Syd Midnight posted:The first Piers Anthony I read was a series and I didn't really get suspicious until the very end where an elderly pedophile in a position of authority falls in love with a 12 year old prostitute (a sex slave who does scat shows) and everybody sees that their love is good and perfect so they're allowed to get married and God is fired from His job and the pedo is put in charge of the universe instead. Then the last chapter is an open letter from Anthony himself to an emotionally troubled 14 year old fan I guess that's a different one from the one where the elderly pedophile gets arrested and taken to court over his sexual relationship with a child, and the child describes the sex they had and how in love they are with such passion and eloquence that the entire court weeps openly? E: https://hradzka.livejournal.com/392471.html in the one I'm thinking of she was five Dabir has a new favorite as of 16:08 on Jul 12, 2019 |
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The more I learn about that Piers Anthony fellow, the more I don't care for him, to be honest.
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Paladinus posted:The more I learn about that Piers Anthony fellow, the more I don't care for him, to be honest. 
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Yeah, to hell with that Piers Morgan
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Lopside Fundip posted:Welcome to the whole rest of your life. It's weird, scary and completely unfair. Your parents are insane people who walk around living lives you can't understand and can only barely tolerate. That's their right.
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Untrustable posted:I'm currently reading House of Leaves and I feel like I need to take a step down in reading level. Holy poo poo this book is DENSE. you should keep going, imo part of the experience of that book is the fear of being caught inside it and getting ground to dust by it's uncaring madness
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Dabir posted:I guess that's a different one from the one where the elderly pedophile gets arrested and taken to court over his sexual relationship with a child, and the child describes the sex they had and how in love they are with such passion and eloquence that the entire court weeps openly?
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Pigsfeet on Rye posted:
Icon Of Sin posted:I’m going to guess it has to be done in the dark, because light angers the reagents or reaction products. The makers don’t seem to be the type to be in the business of blowing up spectrometers BattleMaster posted:For centuries, a rite of passage for chemists was the preparation of tetralitiomethane. This tiny molecule - starting as carbon tetrachloride, force-fed mercury, then suffocated in a near vacuum - was prepared whole and burned that way, bonds and all, while the apparatus was draped with a linen napkin to preserve the precious aromas and, some believe, to hide from God. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ortolan_bunting#As_food
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Hey, could you do me a favor? Yeah, you. Could you please guess the thread? CYBEReris posted:all white south africans have materially benefited from settler colonialism and apartheid even if they make the conscious effort to reject and fight back against it - which is a good thing, but only further damns the environment they're rejecting. next you'll be saying not ALL cops are bastards.
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ToxicFrog posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ortolan_bunting#As_food Without checking that link this just reads like an incredibly nerdy Dutch oven joke.
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Dabir posted:I guess that's a different one from the one where the elderly pedophile gets arrested and taken to court over his sexual relationship with a child, and the child describes the sex they had and how in love they are with such passion and eloquence that the entire court weeps openly? The Bio of a Space Tyrant series has an old guy get seduced in VR by a mysterious woman who turn out to be his 14 year old mentally handicapped ward.
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