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Tremek
Jun 10, 2005

Floor chat: we had composite fake wood at our previous house that was decent but not as robust as the full “luxury” vinyl (fully vinyl plank - no wood to absorb moisture, warp, etc) that we put in our now-needs-rebuilt house. We used the Lifeproof brand from Home Depot and it’s put up with 3 little boys, 2 big dogs, and 2 cats with very little wear. Will probably use the same stuff again once what we have gets pulled out of the house during the rebuild.

On a lighter note my wife and I took the boys for a long drive in the Raptor yesterday. I finished burning off the lovely dealer gas and put ~33 gallons of Shell 91 in it and it seems much happier.

We drove up to Boulder, then went up to Estes Park, and decided while we were there to go through Rocky Mountain National Park and up and over Trail Ridge Road, and finally came back by way of Idaho Springs where we stopped for good pizza at a fixture there, Beau Jo’s. We all had a great time. Something like 700 miles on the Raptor now. I chased a WRX down Berthoud Pass and gapped a GMT800 6.6 diesel on the way up Floyd Hill. For a bigass truck the Raptor handles well and makes decent power.













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Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!

STR posted:

YOU OF ALL PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW PATINA WHEN YOU SEE IT

True. I just find unpainted bridges like that lazy and tacky. Also, I *hate*rust.

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IDK if he wants to do a clutch every 50-60k.

At least, everyone I've known with a manual Kia has had that experience (hi Darchangel, plus several coworkers and friends). Plus 60k timing belt unless you get a brand new one. I wouldn't mind one myself, but you can only get the manual in the base model with the least powerful motor today. Up until a few years ago you could get them pretty well optioned with a manual.

Spuds about right. Only real complaint about the car, though. Our Spectra5 has put up with a lot, and my wife would like to replace it with a Soul (automatic, though, due to her back problems making the clutch difficult.) Of course, I went to Arizona and got a cheap Outback instead. Cant afford a payment even for a used Soul just right now.

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I'm terrible at negotiating, I'll pay a bit more just to walk in, pay a fairly reasonable sticker price, and walk out.

I’m with you. I can’t play the dealer game.

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The nearest one has a BUNCH of stripper Mirages with <2k for basically MSRP. With no AC. I live a couple of miles from a Mitsubishi dealer that used to constantly advertise $9999 Mirages.... (they're all fleet white, no radio, no ac... no ac in central TX!)
Guess they’ll be keeping those or shipping them up north, where they also won’t sell thanks to global warming.

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



Man and here I thought elk hunting was gonna be difficult

Nidhg00670000
Mar 26, 2010

We're in the pipe, five by five.
Grimey Drawer

MrOnBicycle posted:

3. Even a GS was louder than I expected on our lovely drat roads.

Lexus isn't outstanding in the noise department in my experience. I know it's easy to dismiss as "yeah, I'm sure it's a coincidence that you as a swede says that", but at least in Vi Bilägares tests, Volvos almost always come out on top when it comes to road noise in the cabin. In their 2016 50 car noise comparison test the BMW 3-series placed 26th, and here's from another test from 2016 with two other cars that aren't in the 50 car test.

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

You'll be sorry you made fun of me when Daddy Donald jails all my posting enemies!
Lightning blue is the best color. It's heavy, but the 3.5EB/10A is a great engine/trans combo.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Tremek posted:

Floor chat: we had composite fake wood at our previous house that was decent but not as robust as the full “luxury” vinyl (fully vinyl plank - no wood to absorb moisture, warp, etc) that we put in our now-needs-rebuilt house. We used the Lifeproof brand from Home Depot and it’s put up with 3 little boys, 2 big dogs, and 2 cats with very little wear. Will probably use the same stuff again once what we have gets pulled out of the house during the rebuild.


We went with the vinyl 'Free Fit' flooring and that was complete and utter garbage. Warped a couple years in, domed and did everything it was never supposed to do. Just a complete and utter waste of time. We just ate the cost and put straight up tile throughout our house, plank-style tiles of course, but yeah this poo poo will not warp no matter what. If you guys are going to do flooring don't compromise because it sucks terribly to have to do your entire floor twice in 6 years :negative:

redgubbinz
May 1, 2007

The Raptor is a sore spot for me since it punches a perfect hole in my "pickups and the people who drive them suck" bias. They're just great. Tons of power, cool turbo (or V8) noises, all that sidewall and suspension travel...plus sweet cheesy graphics on the side. I'll take seven of them.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


redgubbinz posted:

The Raptor is a sore spot for me since it punches a perfect hole in my "pickups and the people who drive them suck" bias. They're just great. Tons of power, cool turbo (or V8) noises, all that sidewall and suspension travel...plus sweet cheesy graphics on the side. I'll take seven of them.

They also barely depreciate. 200k mile 5.4 raptors are still 20 grand. 100k mile 2017s are still 45 grand, there is probably shitbird dealer mark-up on them, but they start at "only" $52,885 for a 2019.

Is there any other luxury vehicle you can put 100,000 miles on for 7 grand in depreciation?

heated game moment
Oct 30, 2003

Lipstick Apathy

Powershift posted:

They also barely depreciate. 200k mile 5.4 raptors are still 20 grand. 100k mile 2017s are still 45 grand, there is probably shitbird dealer mark-up on them, but they start at "only" $52,885 for a 2019.

Is there any other luxury vehicle you can put 100,000 miles on for 7 grand in depreciation?

No and I now regret getting a similarly priced Silverado when I could have gotten a Raptor instead. You pay more up front but seems like you are guaranteed to get way more on the back end

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Shitfest the Clown posted:

No and I now regret getting a similarly priced Silverado when I could have gotten a Raptor instead. You pay more up front but seems like you are guaranteed to get way more on the back end

Shock rebuilds are down to like $500 for all 4 corners every ~50,000 miles, too.

Shoulda bought a raptor :shrug:

MrOnBicycle
Jan 18, 2008
Wait wat?

Nidhg00670000 posted:

Lexus isn't outstanding in the noise department in my experience. I know it's easy to dismiss as "yeah, I'm sure it's a coincidence that you as a swede says that", but at least in Vi Bilägares tests, Volvos almost always come out on top when it comes to road noise in the cabin. In their 2016 50 car noise comparison test the BMW 3-series placed 26th, and here's from another test from 2016 with two other cars that aren't in the 50 car test.



On the contrary, I think it's a problem that is pretty unique to us Swedes and a few more countries that allow studded tires. I don't know if there is another place that isn't bad just to lack of maintenance but where the roads are planned to be this coarse. Denmark is smoother, but maybe Finland? drat studded tires. I wish that they would at least stop with the coarse asphalt here in the south where we rarely get snow/ice anymore.

Anyway, yeah Volvos are pretty good. My dads V70 is pretty quiet and comfortable, but I'll be damned if I ever buy a Volvo. I'm silly and like cars that are rare to see on the road (I drive Alfa Romeos at the moment...)... I don't think I can manage Volvo ownership...
Your post made me buy the 2016 test of 50 cars, and I learned some really interesting stuff. Apparently it's the low-frequency noise at 80-300Hz that our Swedish roads like to produce which is the culprit and that manufacturers struggle to get rid of. A V70 manages 77,8 dB(A) at these frequencies vs an S-class which (only) manages 76,3dB(A). The second best tested car was a V60 CC that managed 76,1dB(A). All @ 110km/h. Both surprising yet perhaps not since Volvo are Swedish (well) cars that are made for and tested on Swedish roads. Regarding noise in that frequency range they mentioned a very useful test, and it's how well you can hear talking on the radio, and how much you have to turn up the volume. Really hit home because in my current car (Alfa Romeo Giulietta), I have a hard time hearing what people say on the phone and have to turn up the volume a lot. The Lexus was much easier to talk in, but not as much as I thought.

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

You'll be sorry you made fun of me when Daddy Donald jails all my posting enemies!

Shitfest the Clown posted:

No and I now regret getting a similarly priced Silverado when I could have gotten a Raptor instead. You pay more up front but seems like you are guaranteed to get way more on the back end
I regret getting a Lariat instead of a raptor for just that reason.

I have a co-worker who bought a realtor new, out 150k on it, and sold it for more than he paid. Like, really?!

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof
I don't know if any of you all have seen "The Domestics" on Amazon Prime.

It features a real nice AMC Eagle if you're into that sort of thing. They even make it a plot point in the movie

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

KakerMix posted:

We went with the vinyl 'Free Fit' flooring and that was complete and utter garbage. Warped a couple years in, domed and did everything it was never supposed to do. Just a complete and utter waste of time. We just ate the cost and put straight up tile throughout our house, plank-style tiles of course, but yeah this poo poo will not warp no matter what. If you guys are going to do flooring don't compromise because it sucks terribly to have to do your entire floor twice in 6 years :negative:

What is the free fit flooring? Never heard of it. We have been considering doing our entire house with vinyl I want to make sure we get it right. Kinda weird that vinyl would warp, that's what real wood would do and i thought the whole point of going vinyl was to avoid that.

Tremek
Jun 10, 2005

ilkhan posted:

Lightning blue is the best color. It's heavy, but the 3.5EB/10A is a great engine/trans combo.

My truck is “Performance Blue” which is a little more subdued than the brighter metallic blue they also make.

I’m still not in love with the drivetrain. The engine makes horrible noises and gets no better gas mileage than a V8, it’s dumb.

rdb
Jul 8, 2002
chicken mctesticles?
I would give it 4-5k before you judge the fuel economy. Sometimes brand new vehicles take time to break in. My current cummins ram went from 18mpg to 20.

Your right about the 3.5 sound. Reminds me of an early 90s explorer. It has that same drone. Still a really nice truck.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Humphreys posted:

Friday at 5PM my boss threw me a lanyard and said "You like cars and have family up north, here go to this thing". Within an hour I had organised a flight and accomodation and arrived well before start time Saturday while taking the $53 cab ride out of town to the bush. So I been getting trashed on free beers with rich old white people too.


gently caress the police:


Gallery of a bunch of random drunken photos I took (the Skelta isn't my photo though, it's Allan Reinikka Photography's)

https://imgur.com/a/qz3ApvG

EDIT: Notice the dudes shirt behind me 'The Bottlo Racing' I think that might be the reason for the extra 8 cartons of beer half an hour before end of day one being delivered (which we drank/stole)

Cool photos, love the old XP Falcon sedan done up for racing. Rarely see those first gen Falcons getting love like that, outside of the coupes.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

Applebees Appetizer posted:

What is the free fit flooring? Never heard of it. We have been considering doing our entire house with vinyl I want to make sure we get it right. Kinda weird that vinyl would warp, that's what real wood would do and i thought the whole point of going vinyl was to avoid that.

This stuff. They come in plank sizes just like wood, you late them flat and that's pretty much it. Didn't matter though, because each plank started to warp and curl in on itself so suddenly the nice fit that it had is much less because each plank is slightly smaller than what it was originally. When it was brand new though it was great, soft and warm to the touch in a pleasant way.
Now that we just went true Florida and put down actual tile it is far better, especially because in the summer heat the interior floor stays cool.

heated game moment
Oct 30, 2003

Lipstick Apathy

Tremek posted:

My truck is “Performance Blue” which is a little more subdued than the brighter metallic blue they also make.

I’m still not in love with the drivetrain. The engine makes horrible noises and gets no better gas mileage than a V8, it’s dumb.

One of the biggest reasons I wanted a Silverado was so I could get the 6.2L V8. It's also about as quick or quicker than the Raptor on the street, depending on which review you read. Too bad for me the resale value doesn't care about any of that.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

KakerMix posted:

This stuff. They come in plank sizes just like wood, you late them flat and that's pretty much it. Didn't matter though, because each plank started to warp and curl in on itself so suddenly the nice fit that it had is much less because each plank is slightly smaller than what it was originally. When it was brand new though it was great, soft and warm to the touch in a pleasant way.
Now that we just went true Florida and put down actual tile it is far better, especially because in the summer heat the interior floor stays cool.

That's bizarre....Did you let them acclimate for awhile before you installed them? I've just never heard of that happening with vinyl before. Some friends of our did theirs a few years ago in vinyl and didn't have any issues. Maybe it's just that company you got it from, or have you heard of other issues with different manufacturers?

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


You know, i was out looking at some very old tractors the other day and i got to thinkin.....


Homeopathic medicine suggests that water molecules have a memory, and that the more diluted a medicine is, the more potent it is. With metal being infinitely recyclable, there's very likely molecules of iron in your car today that were once in an old tractor. Maybe they were even a train car or a barbecue along the way. Maybe less reliable cars have molecules of less reliable equipment in them. Russian cars suck because old Russian tractors suck. German cars are so troublesome because all the iron molecules in them have a memory of when they were in contact with molecules from old Nazi tanks.

Maybe lemons aren't just cars built on a Friday, but just cars unfortunate enough to have molecules of an old Mitsubishi in them rather than molecules of an John Deere.

briefcasefullof
Sep 25, 2004
[This Space for Rent]

Powershift posted:

You know, i was out looking at some very old tractors the other day and i got to thinkin.....


Homeopathic medicine suggests that water molecules have a memory, and that the more diluted a medicine is, the more potent it is. With metal being infinitely recyclable, there's very likely molecules of iron in your car today that were once in an old tractor. Maybe they were even a train car or a barbecue along the way. Maybe less reliable cars have molecules of less reliable equipment in them. Russian cars suck because old Russian tractors suck. German cars are so troublesome because all the iron molecules in them have a memory of when they were in contact with molecules from old Nazi tanks.

Maybe lemons aren't just cars built on a Friday, but just cars unfortunate enough to have molecules of an old Mitsubishi in them rather than molecules of an John Deere.

First bolting two engines together, now this?

Will you share what you're smoking?

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

You'll be sorry you made fun of me when Daddy Donald jails all my posting enemies!

Tremek posted:

My truck is “Performance Blue” which is a little more subdued than the brighter metallic blue they also make.

I’m still not in love with the drivetrain. The engine makes horrible noises and gets no better gas mileage than a V8, it’s dumb.
Ah. Different year then, similar color.

And mileage sucks once you hit boost. And it sounds up the turbos pretty easily. But it's not bad if you keep it easy. IDK if I'd prefer the coyote. Especially if you live at attitude. Reno isn't super high, but I've driven over Donner pass in an NA V8 and it's... Bad.

My lease is up in a year, really not sure what I want to replace it. Another 3.5EB F-150 is an option, but so is a super duty diesel if we end up getting a travel trailer and doing a lot of travel. Somehow you can't get the 2.7EB on an XLT 4x4 trim, which may be my first choice, but then you can't get adaptive cruise, and... IDK. Lots of considerations. Winning the lottery would be nice.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


QuarkMartial posted:

First bolting two engines together, now this?

Will you share what you're smoking?

I ain't smokin nothin :colbert:




I am sprayin this yellow goop into my mouth every now and then to deal with crippling anxiety, but i doubt the two things are related.

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

Darchangel posted:

True. I just find unpainted bridges like that lazy and tacky. Also, I *hate*rust.

Rust can be a good thing sometimes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weathering_steel

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

That's still not nearly as good as a proper corrosion preventive compound (paint) galvanizing, or Stainless, see all the examples of holes opening in the framing in the linked article.

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."
My internet when out, so I check comcast, which said no outages in area. I start diagnosing at home, which involves dragging my modem out of a really hard to access area (because I am dumb) to power cycle it and loon at the lights. After I spend 10 minutes moving poo poo around, comcast now tells me half my city, including me has no internet. Cool.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


You Am I posted:

Cool photos, love the old XP Falcon sedan done up for racing. Rarely see those first gen Falcons getting love like that, outside of the coupes.

It was a really fun day, made some new contacts and an invitation to check out one of the richers Ferrari collection and go for a cruise. All because I was at the Staging and the dude next to me was bitching about it being cold. Told him I have a beanie so we went and got it from my car, made his morning.

On car stuff, I FINALLY fixed the failed switch membrane for the tailgate on my wagon. Holden really dropped the ball not having a remote/manual override on it at all (other than popping a grommet and a stupidly huge flat head screwdriver while someone else pushes down from outside).

$5 switch from Jaycar instead of the $185 for new proper part from Holden. If/when I sell the car I'll get the proper assembly.

Humphreys fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Jul 15, 2019

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

nm posted:

My internet when out, so I check comcast, which said no outages in area. I start diagnosing at home, which involves dragging my modem out of a really hard to access area (because I am dumb) to power cycle it and loon at the lights. After I spend 10 minutes moving poo poo around, comcast now tells me half my city, including me has no internet. Cool.

Fun fact from someone who's worked for multiple ISP helldesks: it takes THOUSANDS, if not tens of thousands, of people calling in before a major ISP will declare an outage.

I mean, their network people probably know about a major outage before the calls start rolling in (if they're watching poo poo like they're supposed to be), but at that point they're too busy trying to figure out WTF let the magic smoke out (or where an idiot found gold the highly sought after tree of fiber while digging at a construction site) to inform the helldesk peons. And letting the helldesk continue to take outage calls helps them figure out how many circuits are really affected. Oh yeah, it doesn't help that a lot of 1st (and sometimes 2nd) level helldesks are outsourced overseas, and some companies are even starting to outsource their NOCs.

randomidiot fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Jul 15, 2019

Resting Lich Face
Feb 21, 2019


This case of an intraperitoneal zucchini is unusual, and does raise questions as to how hard one has to push a blunt vegetable to perforate the rectum.
Had been hoping to dump the Mini Cooper lemon on Carmax or something before the fuel pump finished dying because fixing that costs mucho dinero (like a quarter of the drat car's value) and I'm perfectly comfortable loving a car dealer considering I've worked for dealers before. Aaaaanyway I wasn't fast enough: fuel pump dead at 45k, yet another in a long list of problems. I wish the drat thing wasn't paid off, I wouldn't still own it at this point. I love to drive it but I need to be rid of it yesterday.

Naturally this expense cuts into my budget for replacing this piece of poo poo :(

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

The Genie Game 2: Pretend like that Convertible Metro isn't there

Copy link location, paste in a new window for super-bigg



e: So here is the ad for a local dealer out of a Canadian 1993 newspaper that a genie shows you. The genie (it's complected) says he will go back in time and deliver you the car you want to buy, according to these rules:

1. You can buy one car
2. You are buying it sight unseen
3. You have to pay the asking price (the genie finds bargaining tedious)
4. The asking price will be transmuted to the 2019 value via inflation (the genie probably could get around this, but apparently this is a much bigger ask than time travel and returning car-sized objects to the present)

So, which one car would you buy?

Nebakenezzer fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Jul 15, 2019

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
The MGB has potential for good return.

But I'd probably go for the Jaguar replica, on the basis that the genie has to present my offer to the seller...

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.
The bronco is the obvious choice, but drat do I want the Tracker

Turbo Fondant
Oct 25, 2010

It's a Bronco II, ew. Drop top Firefly or the tracker, I'm happy with either

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

I'd take the Isuzu :shobon:

Think I posted last month (don't remember) but when my folks were visiting end of last month Dad ended up needing some emergency hernia surgery and they discovered a mass in his lung during imaging for the hernia.

Just confirmed Stage III lung cancer. Lifelong smoker until about 4 years ago and is in the best shape I've ever seen him in (he's my stepdad, married my Mom about 21 years ago). If it wasn't for the hernia we'd never know.

Not great news obviously, but since we found out about the mass not a surprise. Had a couple weeks to prepare for it.

I am now preparing for roller coaster ride that's just beginning. :(

Don't think I slept more than 45 minutes last night knowing this news was coming down the pipe.

A new concern I have, and I realized this last night lying in bed, is keeping them away from all the cancer bullshit on the internet and they are on facebook all the loving time.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

I'm taking the CRX hands down...Hope it's a 5 speed :v:

Also lol at $7500 for a 4cyl Muustang

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




slidebite posted:

I'd take the Isuzu :shobon:

Think I posted last month (don't remember) but when my folks were visiting end of last month Dad ended up needing some emergency hernia surgery and they discovered a mass in his lung during imaging for the hernia.

Just confirmed Stage III lung cancer. Lifelong smoker until about 4 years ago and is in the best shape I've ever seen him in (he's my stepdad, married my Mom about 21 years ago). If it wasn't for the hernia we'd never know.

Not great news obviously, but since we found out about the mass not a surprise. Had a couple weeks to prepare for it.

I am now preparing for roller coaster ride that's just beginning. :(

Don't think I slept more than 45 minutes last night knowing this news was coming down the pipe.

A new concern I have, and I realized this last night lying in bed, is keeping them away from all the cancer bullshit on the internet and they are on facebook all the loving time.

Goondolences. :( My mom is similar, lifelong smoker and was diagnosed with stage 4 COPD recently. Still not sure how to process it all.

And go back in the bottle genie, I don't want any of that poo poo. :v:

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

slidebite posted:

I am now preparing for roller coaster ride that's just beginning. :(

poo poo man, I'm sorry to hear that. I've had two family members die from cancer the past few years. I wish I knew some pithy and effective advice to give (like apparently the GM 3.7 LYS V6 is a poo poo engine that frags itself unless given all the regular maintenance from new, so avoid) but sadly no such things exist on this ride. Grief is a lot like love, in that it's one of those emotions that incredibly powerful and tidally fucks with all your other emotions - except I think the curve-balls grief can throw are a lot more random, and maybe not easily understood without context.

Can I just say that convertible firefly if a standard would be something I'd cherish forever?

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Suburban Dad posted:

And go back in the bottle genie, I don't want any of that poo poo. :v:

lol fair. I think the worse it is, the more interesting a challenge it is

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briefcasefullof
Sep 25, 2004
[This Space for Rent]
Truck passed emissions! :toot:

I was concerned about the drive cycle not being completed since it was still showing a P1000, but it passed anyway. Thankfully, because Ford has a really lovely drive cycle procedure.

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