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some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Ross DaouThot posted:

i'm saying that loving random chuds watch saving private ryan and think gently caress yeah we gonna defeat saddam hoosein and the axis of evil


That's like saying we should let Shell strip mine the amazon because ted kaczyniski was an environmentalist

As an argument for pacifism it's just asinine

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Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

Ross DaouThot posted:

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2019/03/the-importance-of-pacifism

maybe you're just a retard who doesn't value human life

see i can overgeneralize too

your use of an outlawed gamer word is violence, too me

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.


you don't even understand the argument you've started and you're not helping anything please just go away









Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013




real poo poo goin down at Slimefest

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
those are all insanely cursed

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Weird that they included Stalin

Ross DaouThot
Aug 31, 2018

when i hit that loud and open cspam the adam curtis music starts playing

Wheeee posted:

you don't even understand the argument you've started and you're not helping anything please just go away

ok, i will

the only understanding i ever tried to glean is why people think that advocating for the strengthening of institutions to combat fascism before violence is ever necessary is equivalent to scolding people who say you can't reason nazi's out of their ideology

it just seems so loving knee jerk and it's frustrating

like i also hosed up by not being like "this is what pacifism means to me, i am horrified by loss of humanity". the dictionary definition is "violence is unjustifiable in all circumstances"

but then it was immediately "lmao nathan robinson handkerchief man fake brit"

Ross DaouThot has issued a correction as of 01:35 on Jul 15, 2019

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Ross DaouThot posted:

ok, i will

the only understanding i ever tried to glean is why people think that advocating for the strengthening of institutions to combat fascism before violence is ever necessary is equivalent to scolding people who say you can't reason nazi's out of their ideology

it just seems so loving knee jerk and it's frustrating

like i also hosed up by not being like "this is what pacifism means to me, i am horrified by loss of humanity". the dictionary definition is "violence is unjustifiable in all circumstances"

but then it was immediately "lmao nathan robinson handkerchief man fake brit"

Next time maybe try making your point on your own instead of linking to the little lord fauntelroy of socialism blubbering on uselessly and expecting us to extrapolate the part you agreed with

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Also there are times when violence can absolutely be justified and you can't reason nazis out of their ideology, liberal faith in institutions is what got us into this mess

Ross DaouThot
Aug 31, 2018

when i hit that loud and open cspam the adam curtis music starts playing

Crane Fist posted:

Also there are times when violence can absolutely be justified and you can't reason nazis out of their ideology

so um yeah agreed

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Noice. Once again I am Debate Champ

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Pener Kropoopkin posted:



real poo poo goin down at Slimefest

A baby's gotta do what a baby's gotta do

NecroMonster
Jan 4, 2009

violence is absolutely awful and it loving ruins everyone who experiences it from both sides. but violence is also necessary and takes far more forms than the simple letting of blood or taking of life.

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

NecroMonster posted:

but violence is also necessary and takes far more forms than the simple letting of blood or taking of life.

i think this is the biggie, that people just fundamentally misunderstand what violence is

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

the only reason to be pacifist is if youre worried about the next life more than this one

which is fine and all but...not exactly useful here in the material

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

https://twitter.com/alexrileyisdude/status/1136467879493156864

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
:question::sicknasty::question:

https://twitter.com/afpfr/status/1150378408783896577?s=20

any military nerds want to tell me what the gently caress those things are?

edit: nvm, they're anti drone gadgets.

https://twitter.com/Angel_Tango/status/1150379270860132358?s=20

uber_stoat has issued a correction as of 02:13 on Jul 15, 2019

Blendy
Jun 18, 2007

She thinks I'm a haughty!


Funny to include a noted socialist who J. Edgar personally worried was full on a communist spy in a conservative meme.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Wheeee posted:

you don't even understand the argument you've started and you're not helping anything please just go away











Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

we're hosed now

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Darkman Fanpage posted:

we're hosed now

We were always hosed.

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.


Poniard
Apr 3, 2011



Zeroisanumber posted:

We were always hosed.

THS
Sep 15, 2017

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Its the gun in the final reel of Starship Troopers lol

https://youtu.be/cACQ2548i0o

Shalebridge Cradle
Apr 23, 2008



https://twitter.com/afpfr/status/1150329587215282176

a Loving Dog
May 12, 2001

more like a Barking Dog, woof!

Ross DaouThot posted:

if any of you edgelords saw a single person get shot in the head wouldn't leave your house ever again, that is if you do as it is

if you actually read the fancy lad article you'd see that i don't think violence is never necessary, just that 99% of the time the rationalization for violence is just an excuse to do evil

hey man i've seen a few dead bodies including one gruesome suicide and i still leave my house. i still think violence when used correctly and against the right people is cool

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Ross DaouThot posted:

if any of you edgelords saw a single person get shot in the head wouldn't leave your house ever again, that is if you do as it is

if you actually read the fancy lad article you'd see that i don't think violence is never necessary, just that 99% of the time the rationalization for violence is just an excuse to do evil

violence sucks but you also have to realize that people need to be able to defend themselves because nobody on the right is going to have a second thought about using violence to achieve their aims.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

For further discussion watch the documentary Green Room

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King

MonsieurChoc posted:

Are you saying Gundam Wing is not a coherent ideology?
“STOP FIGHTING!”
*cuts my enemies in half with a 3-ton scimitar*

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos
Can someone make a pic of Will Von Spronsen with John Brown, thx

Brrrmph
Feb 27, 2016

Слава Україні!

Wheeee posted:

imagine being so god drat small-brained that you actually believe pacifism is at all a rational, realistic, or sane ideology

But anabaptists

MageMage
Feb 11, 2007

I SUCK AND LOVE TO YELL PERFORMATIVE HOT TAKES AND NONSENSE LIES WHEN I GET WORKED UP. SOMETIMES AUTOBANNED IS BETTER. MAYBE ONE DAY WHEN I STORM OFF I'LL ACTUALLY STOP SHITTING UP THE SITE FOR REAL

Is this supposed to be the right wing comedy that the left is supposedly getting nervous about?

animist
Aug 28, 2018
has this been posted yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqp3yShWuDM

Cactus Ghost
Dec 20, 2003

you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

Darkman Fanpage posted:

the anarchist that cops shot for burning ice trucks's manifesto








rest in power. its hard to read these words and not be touched by the clear eyed vision of what it means to have compassion for other. i cried.

gently caress yeah

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



The Saucer Hovers posted:

the only reason to be pacifist is if youre worried about the next life more than this one

which is fine and all but...not exactly useful here in the material

I have zero expectation anyone is ever going to read 200 pages of 19th Century Russian translated into early 20th Century English but Tolstoy’s later works were like 90% making a case for pacifism as a long-term solution to the world’s problems, 10% fundraising to get persecuted minorities out of Tsarist Russia.

Tolstoy was actually one of Gandhi’s biggest influences early on, for a political/philosophical reference that people not in Russia would get. One main difference being that while his followers got tortured and murdered he never did because A) nobility and B) he had a huge following and the government couldn’t wrap its head around the idea of a huge political following that wouldn’t get violent if their leader was arrested.

he’s probably a dirty word here because Lenin blamed him for the 1905 uprising’s failure though.

e: for the record Will is a hero and anyone who considers burning kidnap busses to be violence has brain worms, that’s moneychanger’s tables levels of justified.

22 Eargesplitten has issued a correction as of 06:49 on Jul 15, 2019

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

https://mobile.twitter.com/_BMW_750LI/status/1149846519333437440

Yestermoment
Jul 27, 2007


I'm growingly disgusted with how much poo poo and piss related merchandise that's being peddled towards kids.

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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

honhon

le grande fusil, il.........tirez les baguettes




honhon, ouioui

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