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Who do you wish to win the Democratic primaries?
This poll is closed.
Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher 18 1.46%
Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer 665 54.11%
Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker 319 25.96%
Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord 26 2.12%
Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe 5 0.41%
Julian Castro, the Twin 5 0.41%
Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer 5 0.41%
Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath 17 1.38%
Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino 3 0.24%
Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist 8 0.65%
Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen 86 7.00%
Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater 23 1.87%
Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool 32 2.60%
Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy 2 0.16%
Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast 1 0.08%
Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated 4 0.33%
Tim Ryan, the Dope Face 3 0.24%
John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran 7 0.57%
Total: 1229 votes
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theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

Condiv posted:

how many times is she gonna loving flip flop on this?

Her previous retraction was pretty weak, wasn't it?

Wasn't it like her campaign manager saying "she didn't understand the question"

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Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

How are u posted:

I would love for the bar in Texas to be raised to the point that a socialist could run as a Dem. I sure don't see it happening, though! I hope I'm proved wrong some day but until then you have to vote for the best option you are presented with.

Or I guess you can throw up your hands and say gently caress the world and give up because we can't make it from Capitalism on Steroids to Socialist Paradise in a single step or a single election. I guess I could be that way.

That's a weird strawman. No one has said we need to give up if we can't have a socialist paradise at the drop of a hat. It sounds to me like you're just upset with people not liking Beto as much as you do.

How are u
May 19, 2005

by Azathoth

theflyingorc posted:

I do think Texas can potentially do better than Beto, but policy wise, probably only by a bit. But I also think that for the race he was running he was at like 90th percentile or better on the "Texas Democrats who actually exist and might be interested in running" scale

Yes, this.

Cruz beat Beto by 2 points. In 2012 Cruz beat the Dem by 16 points. In 2006 Kay Bailey Hutchinson beat the Dem by 25 points. In 2000 she beat the Dem by 33 points. In the 1992 special she beat the Dem by 22 points.

How are u
May 19, 2005

by Azathoth

Majorian posted:

That's a weird strawman. No one has said we need to give up if we can't have a socialist paradise at the drop of a hat. It sounds to me like you're just upset with people not liking Beto as much as you do.

I liked Beto as a candidate for Texas Senate where he almost beat Ted goddamn Cruz. I do not care for him at all as a Presidential candidate and am glad he's getting run out on his rear end. I couldn't be any more clear than this, but clarity isn't what you're interested in is it.

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

How are u posted:

I liked Beto as a candidate for Texas Senate where he almost beat Ted goddamn Cruz. I do not care for him at all as a Presidential candidate and am glad he's getting run out on his rear end. I couldn't be any more clear than this, but clarity isn't what you're interested in is it.

but he campaigned all over texas

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


theflyingorc posted:

Her previous retraction was pretty weak, wasn't it?

Wasn't it like her campaign manager saying "she didn't understand the question"

yes. yes it was

she supposedly thought they were asking if she'd abolish her own insurance or something

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

How are u posted:

I liked Beto as a candidate for Texas Senate where he almost beat Ted goddamn Cruz. I do not care for him at all as a Presidential candidate and am glad he's getting run out on his rear end. I couldn't be any more clear than this, but clarity isn't what you're interested in is it.

We're posting in the 2020 democratic presidential primary thread, my dude.

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

Condiv posted:

yes. yes it was

she supposedly thought they were asking if she'd abolish her own insurance or something

That read like her campaign manager trying to soften a position that Harris was probably going to end up sticking to, IMO

How are u
May 19, 2005

by Azathoth

Majorian posted:

We're posting in the 2020 democratic presidential primary thread, my dude.

Yeah, this weird derail started because I said I wish he hadn't joined the Presidential primary and you and others read that and somehow came to the conclusion that I am Beto's biggest supporter.

You're clearly only trying to push buttons so :coupons:

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

How are u posted:

Yeah, this weird derail started because I said I wish he hadn't joined the Presidential primary and you and others read that and somehow came to the conclusion that I am Beto's biggest supporter.

You're clearly only trying to push buttons so :coupons:

Beto is trash, sorry.

e: you've already shown yourself to be immensely ignorant of how the world works so why am I even bothering

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene
as much as biden acts like he's really good at a shoulder rub i bet butter greg is the best in the field

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.

mormonpartyboat posted:

as much as biden acts like he's really good at a shoulder rub i bet butter greg is the best in the field

Bidens good at pushups too apparently

https://twitter.com/JessicaValenti/status/1151197334824456192

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

I get the impression that Biden would probably not come out of this looking very good.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

How are u posted:

Primaries are the time for purity testing. Generals are for voting for the least evil candidate. Put a socialist on the 2020 Texas Senate ballot and (if I were a Texas resident) I would punch that ticket as hard as I could.

I'd also punch it for Beto O'Rourke over loving Ted Cruz or John Cornyn, without a moment's hesitation, because I won't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.


e: ^^^^^ nope, that's you putting words in my mouth. Beto is being rightfully humiliated on the national stage, where he never should have gone and does not belong. He already proved himself to be an excellent candidate for the state of Texas, which is where he should have stayed if he wanted another shot at the big league. I have no idea who is running in the Dem Senate primary in Texas, so there's probably people in there who are better than Beto and I would rather vote for than Beto.

There is no reason people can't or shouldn't express opinions about candidates whenever they want to. The reaction to try to silence/attack people for this doesn't make sense unless the person disagrees with either the opinion itself or thinks it's exaggerated.

How are u posted:

I liked Beto as a candidate for Texas Senate where he almost beat Ted goddamn Cruz. I do not care for him at all as a Presidential candidate and am glad he's getting run out on his rear end. I couldn't be any more clear than this, but clarity isn't what you're interested in is it.

Yeah, this is where the ideological difference is. Most of us think that even in the context of the Senate race Beto is someone to reluctantly support as a harm reduction measure, but that it makes no sense to actually have positive feelings about the man. Also IIRC there was someone significantly better than him in that primary.

Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Jul 16, 2019

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares



In this post-Epstein-plea-deal world, hill consultants and natsec thinktank beltway employees will ask that Joe and Donald compete onstage by alternately groping and fuUSER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST

Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Jul 16, 2019

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Potato Salad posted:

In this post-Epstein-plea-deal world, hill consultants and natsec thinktank beltway employees will ask that Joe and Donald compete onstage by alternately groping and fuUSER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST

*nods sagely* As it is written, "Horny is prohibited."

Ytlaya posted:

Yeah, this is where the ideological difference is. Most of us think that even in the context of the Senate race Beto is someone to reluctantly support as a harm reduction measure, but that it makes no sense to actually have positive feelings about the man. Also IIRC there was someone significantly better than him in that primary.

Sema Hernandez, yeah, she was significantly better on the issues.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007




Lol if my healthcare and life weren't on the line in this election, I'd actually love to see this

punishedkissinger
Sep 20, 2017


Honestly I appreciate the level of showmanship he's doing here, and Im not gonna lie the ensuing pathetic spectacle of two out of shape geriatrics trying to one up each other would be pretty great.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod



he should probably focus on being able to complete a sentence without his dentures falling out instead

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


If your goofy long red tie touches the ground, does that count as a push up? Asking for a fellow tinpot world leader.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010

Majorian posted:

I get the impression that Biden would probably not come out of this looking very good.

Boomers would eat that poo poo up.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Charlz Guybon posted:

Boomers would eat that poo poo up.

I have a feeling they'd be too quickly reminded of their own mortality and morbidity when they saw his red, bloated face straining as he tried to push his decrepit carcas an inch above the ground.

Trump's fans, on the other hand, would hallucinate a Garrison cartoon, because yaaaaay maga.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Koalas March posted:

Lol if my healthcare and life weren't on the line in this election, I'd actually love to see this

as I hear it, Corn Pop is his coach and they're going through a rocky training montage for this moment as we speak

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Majorian posted:

I have a feeling they'd be too quickly reminded of their own mortality and morbidity when they saw his red, bloated face straining as he tried to push his decrepit carcas an inch above the ground.

Trump's fans, on the other hand, would hallucinate a Garrison cartoon, because yaaaaay maga.


Nah, Biden looks like he can still do a couple push ups before going full fat kid in gym class. The perceptional difference is all he's going for anyway, because nobody thinks he looks better than the rest of the Clown Car and his entire being is tied up in 1970s good ol' boyism. It's the same "reasoning" behind his previous claim to totally be down to fight Donny behind the gym.

In the good old days, the ones Biden will totally return us to, people passed bipartisan plans to destroy the working class and successfully calling someone weak was a total slam dunk win. You can't vote for a wuss, guys.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

he's so good you guys

https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1151258150902927360

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Nobody else is even running, just Bernie and that’s sad.

Ruminahui
Mar 3, 2019

by FactsAreUseless

He’s cool 😎

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Warren isn't even an option:

https://twitter.com/mahmoudkenny98/status/1151174544364888064

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men

What someone needs to do at the debate is when Trump starts discussing terrorism, point out that he literally doesn't even know how to spell Al Qaeda and then challenge him to do it right then. He won't, but it'll be fun to watch him bluster.

JIZZ DENOUEMENT
Oct 3, 2012

STRIKE!

hes so loving good

shades of eternity
Nov 9, 2013

Where kitties raise dragons in the world's largest mall.
You need to cull the candidates by labor day.

don't really care how's it's done or who is the final candidate.

could be by bracket debate.

could be by pit fight.

could be by a rousing game of trivial pursuit.

hell could be by rock papers scissors for all that it matters.

and then once it's selected, the democrats need to shake hands and vote in lockstep.

because if it isn't, it really won't matter whom the candidate is because the default is 4 more years of Trump and staying home/voting third party guarantees it.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007


Excuse me but:

https://twitter.com/SenWarren/status/1151240819745198081

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012
https://mobile.twitter.com/libbycwatson/status/1151185245393379329

It's remarkable how it's the most open of secrets that Warren, Harris and Booker are full of poo poo with regards to m4a. It's supposed to be their policy in just about the top issue and yet they don't feel like defending it and no one asks about it because everyone gets that support is just for show.

eke out
Feb 24, 2013




please don't talk about "culling" the candidates in this thread, judakel's already like two steps away from trying to do that himself

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MSDOS KAPITAL
Jun 25, 2018





shades of eternity posted:

You need to cull the candidates by labor day.

don't really care how's it's done or who is the final candidate.

could be by bracket debate.

could be by pit fight.

could be by a rousing game of trivial pursuit.

hell could be by rock papers scissors for all that it matters.

and then once it's selected, the democrats need to shake hands and vote in lockstep.

because if it isn't, it really won't matter whom the candidate is because the default is 4 more years of Trump and staying home/voting third party guarantees it.
Yeah why can't the primary just be decided by lot, anyway?

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010

MSDOS KAPITAL posted:

Yeah why can't the primary just be decided by lot, anyway?

The number of candidates on stage is ridiculous.

Limit it to candidates how have gotten at least 2% in three polls in the last month and the field will be down from 20+ to like 8.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

:laffo:

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008

Maybe direct your message of unity to uh... I don't know, Nancy?

Corsair Pool Boy
Dec 17, 2004
College Slice

eke out posted:

except it never was a "small donors only" policy, just a "no access in return for donations" policy, as this author literally says?

https://twitter.com/rubycramer/status/1150825218392428545

How does this get around the $2,700 or whatever max donation? Even donations in kind are limited to that, aren't they?

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Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

I've been out all evening, but holy poo poo, this is a great clip. I'm so glad he didn't accept Costa's ridiculously dishonest framing.

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