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necroid posted:doesn't take into consideration that plastic will be here long after we're all dead and gone, while paper isn't. does this offset the production costs? I dunno but I think that maybe we've reached a point where we all understand that low production (and sale) costs aren't the best metric to judge how good or bad something is in the long run. cheap plastic stuff is cheap for a reason. Problem is in the short term we're going to all die from climate change unless something is done yesterday. Yes plastics will need to be reduced in the long term but in the short term poo poo like straw bans do literally nothing in the long or short term. You can say we should do it any way "because it starts a conversation" or whatever neoliberal influencers want to go with but the only conversation it's started is to get us stuck in a false dichotomy. necroid posted:I also agree with this 100% but I hate the fact that the usual result of this line of thought (for the average man) is "oh well I won't be making an impact, it's up to the big corporations to stop polluting etc.". Anyone who follows this line of thought was never going to do anything without being forced to so  necroid posted:seriously how hard is it to take responsibility for your own behaviour while also NOT being ok with the huge issues that exist at corporate level? you can change your lifestyle and reduce your overconsumption and garbage production without ignoring the fact that big corporations have been loving us all right up the rear end for a long time. Hey go for it. I take reusable into stores in a place that doesn't ban plastic ones I just don't think it's doing literally anything to save the planet and I absolutely understand that this is only done to quell existential dread at killing the planet I live on. The problem is most people do these things as statements and assume that that's all that needs to be done. There are endless studies that show people are okay with not solving a problem as long as the non solution makes them feel better. Incidentally this is the reason why Tesla drivers are insufferable. Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:The deal about plastic straws isn't about energy use or carbon emissions its about feeling bad about the plastic in the ocean, and apparently plastic straws are the most likely thing to end up in the ocean. This isn't true. Most of the plastic waste in the ocean comes from plastic that is improperly disposed IE littering. The US breaking every other norm of our garbage fire country is less than one percent of the waste generated through this. Edit: This doesn't mean the US doesn't have a massive plastic problem it just doesn't happen to end up in the ocean. It ends up in a landfill. Sedisp has issued a correction as of 21:40 on Jul 20, 2019 |
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bike tory posted:I've seen opinions from disability activists in both directions actually. Some are disappointed because a lot of the argument in favour of the ban is based on the idea that "no one actually needs a straw". So some disabled people are putting their hands up and saying "um actually..." Yeah, that's legit and fine. Everybody can't know everything all the time. It might be better if we went with something more like a public awareness campaign that if you don't need to use plastic, or can re-use it, do so.
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:The deal about plastic straws isn't about energy use or carbon emissions its about feeling bad about the plastic in the ocean, and apparently plastic straws are the most likely thing to end up in the ocean. no. that would be commercial fishing nets.
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Let's ban tourism, all that traveling can't be helping. lol like that will ever happen. I think I'll go fly to the Alps for a vacation and see the glaciers there before they disappear.
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if you’re out and about with someone disabled, simply deflate their Foley catheter and drink via that. you can also use the same catheter the drain that full bladder after drinking all that coke
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spacetoaster posted:Yeah, that's legit and fine. I think the one thing that most people would agree with is that consumer choice is not going to solve this problem
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Larry Parrish posted:where are these places because all i see is annoyed environmentalists pissed off that officials feel like they did something, angry boomers that we all try to ignore, and liberals trying as hard as humanly possible to clap themselves on the back for their Tesla purchase. EU and India are implementing pretty sweeping bans of single-use plastics.
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bike tory posted:I think the one thing that most people would agree with is that consumer choice is not going to solve this problem The only thing that will solve the problem is impotently posting on forums about the evils of banning single-use plastics.
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Sedisp posted:This isn't true. Most of the plastic waste in the ocean comes from plastic that is improperly disposed IE littering. The US breaking every other norm of our garbage fire country is less than one percent of the waste generated through this. oh. so it's 100% a PR stunt.
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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:oh. so it's 100% a PR stunt. Liberals love the idea of "having done something" while making almost no real change and placing no additional burdens and restrictions on industry. Anyone who is still of the mindset that "the people who are critiquing straw bans on efficacy and ableist grounds" and "the chuds who get angry that they are personally inconvenienced in any way" are the same group of people definitely has brain worms.
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it is literally impossible to not participate in the scourge of single use plastics. even the things that somehow arent sold within or made of it are produced using it. why dont you do some research on these poisonous industries you want to fight
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Lambert posted:EU and India are implementing pretty sweeping bans of single-use plastics. those would be nation sized actors, which my post already said would be the only viable option. a city in the USA banning plastic would literally have nothing to sell lol.
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Larry Parrish posted:those would be nation sized actors, which my post already said would be the only viable option. a city in the USA banning plastic would literally have nothing to sell lol. The closest non-federal actor in the US that could do it effectively would be California. Any state short of CA would likely be told to get rekt.
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GEMorris posted:The closest non-federal actor in the US that could do it effectively would be California. Any state short of CA would likely be told to get rekt. considering our current consumer behavior focused bans have actually been disguised corporate welfare, I dont see that happening. yall realise the petrochemical companies here are making more money after the shopping bag 'ban' right.
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Taintrunner posted:
Name and shame in the local games community, off-site OP.
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Taintrunner posted:
I’m sure he was offering great pay for great work and not “slightly above minimum wage” which is par for the course for small business owners in my experiences
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Name and shame. People really need to start doing this. I have no idea why they don't if they have already been fired. Here I'll start: I personally witnessed Farmers Insurance (owned by Zurich Financial Group) in the San Diego area defraud customers in a significant way and when I tried to fix it (a previous agent created the policy and I just had it dropped in my lap after that agent hosed off to NorCal) I got stonewalled and stymied every step of the way and was basically finally told to ignore it because those people weren't going to be buying more insurance from us anyway and they didn't have the means to pursue legal action. E: couple edits Moridin920 has issued a correction as of 16:51 on Jul 21, 2019 |
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Moridin920 posted:People rely need to start doing this. I have no idea why they don't if they have already been fired. Stockholm syndrome. it’s not just for a$ap rocky anymore
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They were an elderly black couple too. Was loving heartbreaking and rage inducing to learn that they had been scraping and scrimping to continue paying hundreds a month for the diabetic husband's life insurance because if he dies she has no income at all but haha turns out he isn't actually insured for gently caress all and Farmers has been lying to them for years and if he dies she's not getting poo poo.
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This was quite some time ago and I think they were bought by another franchisee since this but when I worked at Domino's pizza on the corner of Alga and El Camino in Carlsbad they sometimes (without announcing it to us beforehand) had the regular employees stay hours after close (talking until like 4-5am when they were scheduled to go home at 10/11) to clean the store on hands and knees with harsh chemicals and 0 protection. When one girl complained that she was having trouble breathing the manager gave her poo poo and joked about the stack of applications in the office. He did give her a few minutes outside though tbf. What's gonna happen? Sue me for my Legos and then get hosed in court because you have to prove I'm intentionally lying to be malicious for it to be slander/libel. Moridin920 has issued a correction as of 17:01 on Jul 21, 2019 |
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Moridin920 posted:People really need to start doing this. I have no idea why they don't if they have already been fired. often in order to get severance you sign a non-disparagement agreement
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Ok but I'm pretty sure the Jersey small town games store doesn't offer severance packages.
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Moridin920 posted:Ok but I'm pretty sure the Jersey small town games store doesn't offer severance packages. it says right in the image “I got a month’s severance”, so I don’t share your certainty about that
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You're right someone might have doxxed the guy and then the store would pursue legal action to recover that like $2k on a questionably enforceable agreement which is a hypothetical anyway. People have just been cowed into not using their voice that's all.
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Moridin920 posted:You're right someone might have doxxed the guy and then the store would pursue legal action to recover that like $2k on a questionably enforceable agreement which is a hypothetical anyway. There's probably identifiers in his post history but it's blacked out
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Moridin920 posted:You're right someone might have doxxed the guy and then the store would pursue legal action to recover that like $2k on a questionably enforceable agreement which is a hypothetical anyway. you can just admit you were wrong. you thought the reasoning was “ok” when you thought it didn’t apply. just let it wash over you. non-disparagement clauses are enforceable if there was meaningful consideration exchanged, as far as I know. have you seen otherwise? I do like that you don’t think a small business owner would be petty in pursuit of vengeance if the naming and shaming had any effect (or they saw the post while googling their store name, which of course small businesses never do) — which I assume you think it could, since you’re advocating for it
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Honestly I'm not willing to take the "I was fired for being too sober!!!" claim at face value regardless.
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So spending $30k to ensure a corp gets its $5.
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Chomp8645 posted:Honestly I'm not willing to take the "I was fired for being too sober!!!" claim at face value regardless. my only thought is that the boss is an alcoholic or addict himself, and doesn’t want the comparison (even in his own mind)
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Chomp8645 posted:Honestly I'm not willing to take the "I was fired for being too sober!!!" claim at face value regardless. So when the gently caress did you join the managerial class you sack of poo poo leech
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Who is the democrat cop who was bragging/laughing about throwing parents in jail if their kids are late for school? Because this is the kind of thing liberals love.
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spacetoaster posted:Who is the democrat cop who was bragging/laughing about throwing parents in jail if their kids are late for school? presidential candidate kamala harris
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atelier morgan posted:presidential candidate kamala harris Yes, that's her. She'll be a great president I'm sure.
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spacetoaster posted:Yes, that's her. She'll be a great president I'm sure. she doesn't openly sexual harass women constantly or loudly support racism so she's way behind biden
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