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This post was your clear opportunity to tell me you were a lawyer, judge, federal employee, etc. You even could have just pretended, but I guess it's just a hobby for you. You obviously have a lot of free time to develop legal fan-fiction, I hope you use some of it to pursue education that matches your passions. Did you know you can pass the bar without going to law school? There are organizations in Oakland that help people do it.  For everyone else, I've been assured by some rear end in a top hat that Pelosi is currently deciding whether to hand her seat off to Scott Weiner or her daughter Christine. Unfortunately an actually cool and good person is running again, and he's weirdly good at raising money. And DJing. I think he has a pretty good chance of being #2 in the jungle primary, and at that point, who the gently caress knows.
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Jul 22, 2019 02:55
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More like Braindead Reckoning
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Doc Hawkins posted:For everyone else, I've been assured by some rear end in a top hat that Pelosi is currently deciding whether to hand her seat off to Scott Weiner or her daughter Christine. Unfortunately an actually cool and good person is running again, and he's weirdly good at raising money. And DJing. I think he has a pretty good chance of being #2 in the jungle primary, and at that point, who the gently caress knows. I think Buttar is a long shot even if he makes it to the general but then again if you'd told me two years ago Crowley was going to get taken down by a 27 year old bartender I wouldn't have believed you, so fingers crossed.
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The Supremacy Clause is a thing. This is not exotic or unsettled law. If California passed a law criminalizing ICE enforcement and arrested an federal ICE agent, the conviction would be overturned almost immediately. California can't nullify federal immigration law any more than Arkansas could nullify federal civil rights law (they tried). California can't be compelled to help enforce immigration, but can't block the federal government spending their own resources on it.
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IMO it is a good thing that the US government works that way. If state and local governments had the power to ignore and nullify laws from Washington D.C., we'd have a pretty dysfunctional system of government. I guess this discussion is a moot point--when Trump loses in 2020, all of the posters in this thread will go back to complaining about the US federalist system of government and how it gives too much power to states again. silence_kit fucked around with this message at 12:17 on Jul 22, 2019 |
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silence_kit posted:when Trump loses in 2020, all of the posters in this thread will go back to complaining about the US federalist system of government and how it gives too much power to states again. Toxx?
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quote:PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, Plaintiff, v. COLE JOSEPH DOTSON, Defendants. ICE Agent runs someone over while pursuing them, state attempts to prosecute for manslaughter, charges were dismissed based upon a motion of supremacy clause immunity. So idk I did find (relatively quickly) a federal agent being prosecuted by the state but then just as quickly the charges were tossed based on supremacy clause so there's your answer imo.
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Y'all are ruining my attempt to needle Dead Reckoning.  Supremacy clause protects actions that are "necessary and proper," which phrase gives a great deal of space for prosecutors and judges to disagree, including in this case where *finds and reads articles* a man ran a stop sign at 100 miles an hour without running his lights or siren because he didn't know where his surveillance suspect had gone and t-boned a van, killing all three adult occupants of it, oh but at least the two children in it survived. The judge was apparently concerned that this could create a "chilling effect" which might lead agents to....turn on their sirens? 
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Jul 22, 2019 16:18
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Serves the same purpose as qualified immunity
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Jul 22, 2019 16:27
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Doc Hawkins posted:Y'all are ruining my attempt to needle Dead Reckoning. No good can come from such an endeavor.
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Republicans weaponize the law and pass wildly unconstitutional poo poo all the time. I think it would be rad if left DAs started doing the same thing. Don't want to get harassed by the legal system? Don't be an ICE agent.
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Kobayashi posted:Republicans weaponize the law and pass wildly unconstitutional poo poo all the time. I think it would be rad if left DAs started doing the same thing. Don't want to get harassed by the legal system? Don't be an ICE agent. I don't think police officers would comply tbh.
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Maybe if we can trick a few of them into resisting (making) arrests, they'll all shoot each other.
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CPColin posted:Maybe if we can trick a few of them into resisting (making) arrests, they'll all shoot each other. We have one side do undercover operations without telling the other side.
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Just pit the different branches against each other undercover, they already shoot each other in plainclothes frequently.
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silence_kit posted:IMO it is a good thing that the US government works that way. If state and local governments had the power to ignore and nullify laws from Washington D.C., we'd have a pretty dysfunctional system of government. I admire your optimism. Sadly I don't share it. I expect the DNC to pull defeat from the jaws of victory.
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Today the FBI raided the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Just pit the different branches against each other undercover, they already shoot each other in plainclothes frequently. i loving love hong kong cinema
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Admiral Ray posted:I don't think police officers would comply tbh. Yeah, the people you expect to be the meat in this incredibly stupid sandwich are probably going to be very resistant to the idea.
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Admiral Ray posted:I don't think police officers would comply tbh. Dont murder people. NO! Dont steal from people. NO! Dont form illegal gangs. NO! Checks out.
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Doc Hawkins posted:Y'all are ruining my attempt to needle Dead Reckoning.
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Shut the gently caress up, Dead Reckoning.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:https://lbpost.com/news/renter-rights-groups-cry-foul-over-last-minute-proposed-changes-to-tenant-relocation-law
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Infinite Karma posted:How the gently caress do laws meant to protect average people ALWAYS get gutted before they go into effect? Can't lawmakers grow a spine and follow through on what they start without some rich gently caress corrupting the system?
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Cup Runneth Over posted:https://lbpost.com/news/renter-rights-groups-cry-foul-over-last-minute-proposed-changes-to-tenant-relocation-law Infinite Karma posted:How the gently caress do laws meant to protect average people ALWAYS get gutted before they go into effect? Can't lawmakers grow a spine and follow through on what they start without some rich gently caress corrupting the system? It's not totally gutted, it looks like it's still pretty helpful: quote:One change would allow landlords to give tenants 180 days notice to vacate as an alternative to relocation assistance. From another article from June 12th about the rental relocation law: quote:Starting Aug. 1, landlords will have to pay relocation fees if their tenants are displaced by large rent hikes or certain types of notices to vacate. And a third article from April 3rd: quote:Under the new ordinance, which will be drafted in the coming months, rental assistance would be required when a tenant has seen their rent increase by more than 10 percent during a 12-month period. I can't quite understand that last bit about when assistance would be triggered. Is that stating that relocation assistance would be triggered when evicting due to a failure to pay rent or breaking the lease agreement? It's a really strong renter protection if so. Something I've noticed is that condominiums seem to get exempted from many rental regulations. Does anyone know why?
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Because condos are owned?
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Admiral Ray posted:I can't quite understand that last bit about when assistance would be triggered. Is that stating that relocation assistance would be triggered when evicting due to a failure to pay rent or breaking the lease agreement? It's a really strong renter protection if so. Text of thing going into effect August 1 unless amended (which it sounds like they've put off doing) The way I read it: - If evicted for nonpayment of rent or breaking lease, no payment required - If rent on offered renewal of lease goes up by 10%/year, tenant can say nope and get (payment - any delinquent rent). - If lease has an early terminate for renovations clause and landlord uses it, tenant gets (payment - any delinquent rent). - If tenant has been there a year, is current on rent, hasn't damaged stuff, and hasn't harassed people in the building + landlord doesn't offer a renewal, tenant gets payment. If tenant got a payment but didn't actually leave on time, they owe the payment back + whatever other penalties are in the lease and don't get anything when they do leave. Exceptions: - If landlord or family member moving into unit - Building is being condemned after natural disaster - Unit has rent control - Landlord lives in same building - Landlord owns exactly building in Long Beach and that building has exactly 4 units (not two, not three, exactly four only  )- Unit built after Feb 1 1995 No idea why people want to except condos that wouldn't be covered by the self occupy or a less stupidly worded low unit number exception besides sucking up to condo owners
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Because condos are owned? You can rent someone's condo from them. Lots of folks in my complex are renters. I rented a spot in ours too until I eventually ran out of money and my (now wife) stopped charging me.
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Dumb Lowtax posted:You can rent someone's condo from them. Lots of folks in my complex are renters. Yeah condos are rented out all the time. My grandparents own 6 units, rents them out, and my brother rents a condo. Its quite common. But obviously anecdotal... doh. Aeka 2.0 fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Jul 24, 2019 |
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Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.
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Dumb Lowtax posted:You can rent someone's condo from them. Lots of folks in my complex are renters. LMAO you seduced your landlord for free rent? Nice work. (I'm kidding!)
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Dead Reckoning posted:That isn't even remotely the same. I looked at his campaign website, and what he wants to prosecute ICE agents for is conduct that pretty indisputably falls under the scope of their official duties. Because of the supremacy clause, the SF District Attorney doesn't have any jurisdiction to investigate that conduct. If he believes a crime has occurred, he would need to refer the matter to federal prosecutors and the relevant agency's Office of the Inspector General, and I don't think they share his belief that rigorous enforcement of immigration law constitutes a federal crime. Like, let's put aside the impossibility of SFPD actually arresting ICE agents for official acts, how would he even propose conducting such an investigation in the first place? Does he think ICE agents will sit for an interview with his investigators? Does he think that a judge will sign a search warrant for the immigration office on Sansome? Doc Hawkins posted:I don't understand the hair you're attempting to split. It is possible to break state laws in the intended service of some federal mission. Immigration agents do that, and are sometimes been arrested for it, and sometimes not. Why are you trying to defend an inconsistency in the application of the law? From the site: quote:Investigate and prosecute crimes committed by ICE agents. I contacted them using the contact form (I hate contact forms). I told them some people were excited about the campaign, but were having a discussion and I asked about how they mention in the quote above going after ICE for violating constitutional protections and the like (probably federal stuff), while also mentioning at the end that they'd go after them over breaking California law. I talked about how the Supremacy clause seems to cause issues with these attempts, and I asked if they perhaps had some cases they wanted to cite, or talk a bit more about how they were going to go about doing this (but I didn't need a legal brief or anything, just a better idea on how this would work). This is the response I received. quote:Dear BeAuMaN, Not as thorough as I'd like, but that's their answer. You can contact them for more info and in this case I received a response within a day and a half, which is fairly quick.
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Kaylah is very busy. Go to almost any campaign event (sign up on the website to hear about them) and you can ask Chesa himself. Or just go to democratic club meetings, labor actions...I see the guy everywhere.
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Yeah I understand that. I just thought I'd post the response I received. I'm not in Chesa's area, but the question on prosecuting ICE agents and the Supremacy Clause is interesting, so I thought it was worth asking the campaign at least.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:LMAO you seduced your landlord for free rent? Nice work. praxis
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billion. The final cost depends on which route and mode-of-travel option is eventually decided on.