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My Lovely Horse posted:I've read Perdido Street Station and it's a D&D setting sourcebook without the rules mechanics. You're in luck, they attached mechanics to it in an issue of Dragon magazine. It was mostly forgettable.
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Patrick Spens posted:Thats...extremely hosed up and I did not know that. I think Lovecraft's mother was eventually institutionalised as well, and he was raised by his aunts. There's a reason inherited disease/degeneracy is a theme in his works I think, and not just because he idolised Edgar Allen Poe. IIRC, for the most part he's actually better about writing women than most of his genre contemporaries, which isn't saying much but still. I feel while Lovecraft was obviously racist as all hell, his works aren't exactly celebrated by white supremacists, since the theme often is that only the anglo white man has the hubris to explore enough to realise the horror of their utter insignificance in the face of the universe and species that predate humanity and will outlive them while even the superstitious coloured/italian/welsh folks have the sense to keep their heads down and keep away from weird poo poo.
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Any recommendations on modern weird fiction in a Lovecraftian type of setting? Not necessarily Mythos stuff, but I'm not opposed. Eldritch horrors from beyond, secrets man was not meant to know, hosed up cults devoted to ancient and incomprehensible evils, that kind of thing. I have a couple of collections of Cthulhu Mythos stories on my Kindle, but that's about it.
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oldpainless posted:I can’t find anything concrete but I learned he is British which lets face it is practically an admission of Guilt
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Jabor posted:Truthfully saying that somebody did a lovely yet legal thing doesn't open you up to a lawsuit. It does if you don't have evidence and the accusations you're making could damage that person's reputation. It's called defamation.
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oldpainless posted:I can’t find anything concrete but I learned he is British which lets face it is practically an admission of Guilt more like oldkingless BARONS DEF CHARGER posted:I am now the Lead singer on my little baby druid. But to be fair, my band mates were running into the crowd throwing bottles at them and hitting them with their instruments after I told them not to several times.
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Bertrand Hustle posted:Any recommendations on modern weird fiction in a Lovecraftian type of setting? Not necessarily Mythos stuff, but I'm not opposed. Eldritch horrors from beyond, secrets man was not meant to know, hosed up cults devoted to ancient and incomprehensible evils, that kind of thing. Clive Barker's Books of Blood series? They're a smorgasbord of short stories by a quirky, somewhat goth, extremely British horror writer. They ain't all zingers, but the good ones stick with you. A few weeks ago some goon made a joke referencing "In the Hills, the Cities", and though its been almost 30 years since I read it I remembered it immediately. Some of those stories became entire genres, like Hellraiser. Theres also have a few stories actually in Cthulhu mythos. Clive Barker was extremely Edgy stuff when I was a teen, but grew into a generic horror franchise. He's one of those "if it seems cliched, it's because he invented that cliche" kinda artists. Books of Blood has lots of weird alt horror variety because they're all short stories , and the good ones overshadow the bad ones. When a story starts to suck, the author can try again with a totally different idea. That's true with Stephen King short story collections like Skeleton Crew, the lovely ones aren't 800 page slogs like a lovely novel, and when he's in a groove he can make it into a novella like "The Body" and "The Mist".
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sebmojo posted:Perdido st station annoyed the poo poo out of me with its endless dreary miserabilism but the guy can def write. City and the city is supposed to be good. yeah he's really hellbent on trying to prove to you how edgy and gritty he is. I really loved LOVED the ideas that bullets are gun eggs and if you get shot you incubate a Gunbeast inside your body until it bursts out like a wolf. That's fuuuuuucked up, and for as strong an idea as it was, it was like one of 4-7 plot threads going on at the same time. The way he wrote PSS's main ant-headed woman, ehhhhhhhh, dude seems like he has Issues.
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Jabor posted:Truthfully saying that somebody did a lovely yet legal thing doesn't open you up to a lawsuit. Unfortunately China Mieville is a frequent collaborator with Zak S. Zak is a rapist/abuser/harasser who is currently suing his ex for going public about all the poo poo he did to her. And I’m sure China’s taking notes for when people go public about his own stuff.
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Arivia posted:Unfortunately China Mieville is a frequent collaborator with Zak S. Zak is a rapist/abuser/harasser who is currently suing his ex for going public about all the poo poo he did to her. And I’m sure China’s taking notes for when people go public about his own stuff. he works with THAT gently caress? okay i undo every positive thing i said about Mieville.
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Vorkosigan posted:The Laundry Files Seconding this.
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PHIZ KALIFA posted:he works with THAT gently caress? okay i undo every positive thing i said about Mieville. I'm astounded anyone worked with Zack S. It must be because only super-nerds had heard of his shittiness? That had to be the least surprising abuse revelation of my life.
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Guess The Thread.GODSPEED JOHN GLENN posted:Oops, All Cloacas!
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Arivia posted:Unfortunately China Mieville is a frequent collaborator with Zak S. Zak is a rapist/abuser/harasser who is currently suing his ex for going public about all the poo poo he did to her. And I’m sure China’s taking notes for when people go public about his own stuff. Oh for gently caress's sake. That little shitweasel really does have tendrils all through geekdom, doesn't he. Did Mieville ever make a statement about MM and others coming forward about Zak's abuse?
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Have you seen China Mieville's mugshot on his book sleeves? Nobody that smug couldn't be guilty of something pretty heinous, imo.
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Jeza posted:Have you seen China Mieville's mugshot on his book sleeves? Nobody that smug couldn't be guilty of something pretty heinous, imo. Counterpoint, this is the author's photo for Shel Silverstein of The Giving Tree 
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Freudian posted:Counterpoint, this is the author's photo for Shel Silverstein of The Giving Tree that's it shel, give me that 1920s feral mountain-man 'seen by human eyes' gurn
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I'd much rather encounter Shel Silverstein in a dark alley than China mieville anywhere
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Shel Silverstein wrote "A Boy Named Sue" on human skin
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Oh for gently caress's sake. That little shitweasel really does have tendrils all through geekdom, doesn't he. haha of course not
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Freudian posted:Counterpoint, this is the author's photo for Shel Silverstein of The Giving Tree Shel's expression is a lot of things, but it ain't smug.
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Sagebrush posted:I'd much rather encounter Shel Silverstein in a dark alley than China mieville anywhere at the very least, it's guaranteed he has a deeply messed up sex dungeon can you imagine china mieville in the sack anyway? it'd probably be like wrestling a particularly muscular seal, haha
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Bertrand Hustle posted:Any recommendations on modern weird fiction in a Lovecraftian type of setting? Not necessarily Mythos stuff, but I'm not opposed. Eldritch horrors from beyond, secrets man was not meant to know, hosed up cults devoted to ancient and incomprehensible evils, that kind of thing. Check out Laird Barron, he's definitely contemporary Weird Fiction and cosmic horror.
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jeff vandermeer's Ambergris books are good if you like china "bedseal" mieville; annihilation is the book that everyone'll have heard about due to the netflix adaptation, but City of Saints and Madmen is a good start followed by the two sequels
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I've been reading Where the Sidewalk Ends to my niece over the last few weeks and I'd forgotten how much I enjoyed that book as well. Shel is awesome.
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Paladinus posted:Wasn't Theodore Dreiser an abuser? Or am I thinking of Hemingway? No, Hemingway was the open-minded one.
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canyoneer posted:No, Hemingway was the open-minded one. I see what you did there.
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Vorkosigan posted:The Laundry Files It's getting less Lovecraft as it goes along due to incorporating nonweird fantasy (viz: elves and vampires) and also due to the Horrifying Mysteries of an Uncaring Cosmos being slowly classified and confronted by people who aren't naturally afraid of poo poo like A Really Tall Penguin Like, I'm still reading each new one cause I want to see where he ends up with it, but that's on me Stross's A Colder War is good, too, and less of a time investment I know we just got done dissing Gaiman but I also really liked his A Study In Emerald, which welds Lovecraft and Doyle together in a fun way
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i agree with all of that. later laundry files books are just stross jerking off over a D&D monster manual
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The elves are kind of cool and having to deal with them and their status as of the end of the book almost made me feel sorry for fictional Theresa May. Still glad they've got a less cartoonishly-evil PM now in the series.
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Phy posted:I know we just got done dissing Gaiman but I also really liked his A Study In Emerald, which welds Lovecraft and Doyle together in a fun way "A Study in Emerald" was the only story worth a drat in that whole collection, because it was a Holmes-style mystery story in a Mythos setting and everyone else wrote "Sherlock Holmes vs. The Monsters".
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illuminum posted:the inside of my colon smells of feces
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Guess the thread:90s Cringe Rock posted:The elves are kind of cool and having to deal with them and their status as of the end of the book almost made me feel sorry for fictional Theresa May. Still glad they've got a less cartoonishly-evil PM now in the series.
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Bertrand Hustle posted:Any recommendations on modern weird fiction in a Lovecraftian type of setting? Not necessarily Mythos stuff, but I'm not opposed. Eldritch horrors from beyond, secrets man was not meant to know, hosed up cults devoted to ancient and incomprehensible evils, that kind of thing.
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Freudian posted:Counterpoint, this is the author's photo for Shel Silverstein of The Giving Tree
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I'm certain virtually all writers are abusers but usually they limit their abuse to drugs and alcohol.
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Outrail posted:I'm certain virtually all writers are abusers but usually they limit their abuse to drugs and alcohol. And only some of them are ab users.
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canyoneer posted:No, Hemingway was the open-minded one. Lmao
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