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Hav posted:"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die."  Rest in peace, sweet hobo with a shotgun.
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Hav posted:"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die."  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgtgF5XIV0Y
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Sanya Juutilainen posted:No. There are still two cases: Technically, that sentence as written says 30 days past the earliest of a), b), or c), meaning the case c) deadline would be September 26, 2019. However, this is a rather nonsensical way to specify a date, contradicting the obviously intended date of August 27. Let's have 6 more months of empty legal wrangling over which interpretation is correct!
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Dementropy posted:
I mean Sarsapariller has literally constantly posted about how terrible the game is to play so maybe we can't trust redditors wow whocouldveguessedatthissurprisingturnofeventswhatashame 
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JugbandDude posted:Mainstream gaming press has been avoiding SC like the plague, giving CR the benefit of doubt and at the same time avoiding kickback from the toxic community. Yeah, wouldn't entirely discount Red Bull making some scratch out of this. They're actually pretty drat odd as a partner unless you're aiming things at the extreme sports and Middle-Eastern playboy angle. I'm constantly amused by it. Like there's no real organic entrance for red Bull to get into this. PC Gamer is almost certainly getting some cash.
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Agony Aunt posted:Huh? When did that happen? May last year, around the time the Calders cashed in, I believe. TheAgent has been dropping his rumor pieces indicating there might be some animosity with Turbulent as well, and an incoming lawsuit. Of course, they are all rumors coming from the lack of communication from CI, but they are consistent with shilling accounts and web sites going dormant. I recall Gorf or Bootcha further expanding on it.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:I mean Sarsapariller has literally constantly posted about how terrible the game is to play so maybe we can't trust redditors wow whocouldveguessedatthissurprisingturnofeventswhatashame Honestly we probably have a greater percentage of posts focused on the game now than we have at any point since 2015 lol
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Beet Wagon posted:Honestly we probably have a greater percentage of posts focused on the game now than we have at any point since 2015 lol We have more accurate stories about Star Citizen's gameplay than the sub-reddit ever has. And I'm only talking about the first paragraph Sarsa ever wrote on the topic.
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Hav posted:"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die." CIG trying to monetize this in 3, 2, 1 .....
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JugbandDude posted:May last year, around the time the Calders cashed in, I believe. TheAgent has been dropping his rumor pieces indicating there might be some animosity with Turbulent as well, and an incoming lawsuit. Ah, thanks. I probably read about that but forgot.
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I believe Theranos skipped out on their 2 million dollar marketing bill. CIG has been mirroring their exact playbook so it wouldn't surprise me at all lol Couldn't find that section again but here is a video timestamped to Elizabeth jumping in a bouncy house: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2_A93PWPNY&t=6022s
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JugbandDude posted:May last year, around the time the Calders cashed in, I believe. TheAgent has been dropping his rumor pieces indicating there might be some animosity with Turbulent as well, and an incoming lawsuit.
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TheAgent posted:as of today, turbulent is still in charge of a whole lots poo poo SC related. they've even staffed up significantly just for SC related opportunities Finally paid the invoices, then?
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https://twitter.com/turbulent/status/1022868141343424514 PRODUCER - GAMING https://twitter.com/turbulent/status/1136985993481994241 GAME MICROSERVICES DEVELOPER- INTERMEDIATE https://twitter.com/turbulent/status/992491213243678720 https://twitter.com/turbulent/status/1054830417663135746 https://twitter.com/turbulent/status/1043201522631409664 in fact, the majority of job listings over the last 9+ months at Turbulent have been directly for Star Citizen. they did have an almost 6 month freeze on anything star citizen late last year tho also Here's the CTO and co-founder of Turbulent His "Meet the Devs" interview my previous stuff from earlier in the year about turbulent can be found in virtual captains wonderful thread
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I've said it before: Star Citizen is known industry wide to be an absolutely toxic project anyone with any actual experience is staying the gently caress away, which is why they have jobs open for 18+ months and are promoting 24 year olds to department leads
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Zaphod42 posted:I feel legit bad for anybody who accepts a job at CIG out of college. Pfffft. If you're out of college, you've got a job, work experience and the kind of war stories that you get to meet filmmakers to relate. As for being 'complacent in the scam', give over. Everyone's got bills to pay, and you don't go after the guys that are told to "look busy and not make eye contact when the Roberts' are in".
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Hav posted:Pfffft. If you're out of college, you've got a job, work experience and the kind of war stories that you get to meet filmmakers to relate. As for being 'complacent in the scam', give over. This is the truth.
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so why has charlie hall deleted every single tweet that mentions star citizen lol
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Hav posted:Pfffft. If you're out of college, you've got a job, work experience and the kind of war stories that you get to meet filmmakers to relate. As for being 'complacent in the scam', give over. Yeah, every job needs experience nowadays so why not work for CIG. As long as the paycheck doesn't bounce, keep padding your resume. And as for CIG screwing over people? At this point, if you are still giving money to these clowns, then you are beyond help and I can't feel bad for you. Hell, I have trouble feeling bad for people who bought ships in the last 3 years.
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Hav posted:Pfffft. If you're out of college, you've got a job, work experience and the kind of war stories that you get to meet filmmakers to relate. As for being 'complacent in the scam', give over. Everybody has bills to pay doesn't negate ethics in your work. I don't think I'd accept a job at Facebook or Microsoft if they offered me one, for instance. I like that my company is something at least a tiny bit respectable. How good is star citizen work experience though? If I was interviewing someone and the only thing on their resume was CIG no way in hell would I hire them.
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I'll stand for many things, but I'll not stand for a Redditor accusing me of being forbes.com. Bastard. https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattpe...y/#68d367265ac9 On the other hand, I think all criticism has now morphed into 'The Ubiquitous Goon'. Toejam needs to pull up, lest paranoia take over.
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Cymelion: I would need way more information to be able to determine that my fantasies are incorrect.
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Agony Aunt posted:They put the cart before the horse. You mean they put the shopping cart before the horse
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TheAgent posted:so why has charlie hall deleted every single tweet that mentions star citizen lol 
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Hazamuth posted:You mean they put the shopping cart before the horse
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Zaphod42 posted:Everybody has bills to pay doesn't negate ethics in your work. I don't think I'd accept a job at Facebook or Microsoft if they offered me one, for instance. I like that my company is something at least a tiny bit respectable. As far as you know, and more power to you. I just ask internally when we're going to apply ethics standards when PR does the rainbow thing, and yet we gave money to anti-lgbt politicans. Or constantly asking about net neutrality. That's the wonder of internal polling in large corporates; you get a semi-anonymous voice. Sometimes it's good to be on the inside asking the really loving awkward questions than on the outside. For instance, we have an employee-driven internal spreadsheet that anonymises pay and position, so you can compare across the hive; Handy if you're female. Zaphod42 posted:How good is star citizen work experience though? Seriously? I don't actually care that much about work experience beyond the size of the places that they've been. I bracket hiring questions around more generalized things, because being able to gel with people and learn things is way more important than specific information on tools. I haven't been in a hiring quorum for a few months, though. I do know that we've recently removed the requirement for a degree, though. Zaphod42 posted:If I was interviewing someone and the only thing on their resume was CIG no way in hell would I hire them. You're obviously a big meanie. Heil Hydra.
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Zaphod42 posted:Everybody has bills to pay doesn't negate ethics in your work. I don't think I'd accept a job at Facebook or Microsoft if they offered me one, for instance. I like that my company is something at least a tiny bit respectable. If you dig deep enough, you'll probably find that most companies are monstrously unethical. Worrying about it is something reserved for people that can already afford food and rent. There are many people who could have been whistleblowers but never took their chance because they didn't want to be blackballed from their industry. It's just video games, it's not like they're dumping toxic waste into a lake. And if the first thing on my resume was CIG and I got called out on it, I'd go right into "Man, have I got some stories for you. Have you ever heard of the Space Door?"
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The sub is well stocked with bugs I liked this misbehaving box. I liked this parking advice. But I liked this magical gameplay the most: 
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TheAgent posted:so why has charlie hall deleted every single tweet that mentions star citizen lol I remember him being mentioned here in the thread. Can anyone remind me why he is relevant in the context of Star Citizen? Also if he did, then he missed a few.
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Strangler 42 posted:If you dig deep enough, you'll probably find that most companies are monstrously unethical. Worrying about it is something reserved for people that can already afford food and rent. There are many people who could have been whistleblowers but never took their chance because they didn't want to be blackballed from their industry. It's just video games, it's not like they're dumping toxic waste into a lake. Game devs working at CIG can afford food and rent. They're not amazon warehouse employees. I mean, when I'm interviewing for real I don't even look at someone's resume too much, I just ask them questions and see how they think and if we can talk through a problem that might stump them. But you get so so so many applicants at any kind of decently paying position, you gotta weed out a ton of them and "has only worked at CIG" would definitely be a weed-out.
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TheAgent posted:so why has charlie hall deleted every single tweet that mentions star citizen lol One chain remains: https://twitter.com/Charlie_L_Hall/status/1073708972086099968 https://twitter.com/Charlie_L_Hall/status/1073997975213563904
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Zaphod42 posted:Game devs working at CIG can afford food and rent. They're not amazon warehouse employees. Zero experience in the field would be the first ones most people would throw in the shredder. Even just showing that you can hold down a job and can work with people without getting fired is very important. It'll hopefully lead to a better job later on and the only people being hurt are the idiot backers.
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Zaphod42 posted:Game devs working at CIG can afford food and rent. They're not amazon warehouse employees. What kind of place do you work at that get many applicants for developer positions? Good programmers are in insanely short supply, decent programmers only slightly less so. Artists, designers and low-level QA? That's a tough labor market, but if you can present a strong portfolio as an artist, then having worked at CIG is probably a bonus since it's an indication you're willing to endure crunch. I'd hire a programmer with nothing but CIG on his or her resumé without blinking if he or she is good at what they do. It's perfectly possible to work at a terrible company with a terrible codebase and architecture, but still end up a stronger programmer.
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Kosumo posted:But would you employ Derek K Smart? I think he is retired, but otherwise sure if I needed a master doxxer and decimal point specialist.
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