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jeeves posted:Isn't there like hours and hours of old footage of Data they could have just like digitally rotoscop'd into whatever they needed? It's 2019. They could've just deepfaked him.
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Jul 25, 2019 20:24
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) but then is going to great lengths to do fan service for this series... oh wait they've blown all of their good will on Discovery so fan service is all they have left.
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Jul 25, 2019 20:32
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Hipster_Doofus posted:Not gonna lie I've got a good feeling about STP now and I'm loving stoked. Spoiler: Scott Weiland dies
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Jul 25, 2019 20:36
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I just realized that CBS sells Star Trek to trekkies now the way Hasbro sells Transformers toys to it's fans. Lmao
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Jul 25, 2019 20:44
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Tighclops posted:I just realized that CBS sells Star Trek to trekkies now the way Hasbro sells Transformers toys to it's fans. Lmao lol if you think I'm buying anything
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Jul 25, 2019 20:47
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At some point you realize that everything on TV is just there to make you buy (some form of) a toy.
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Jul 25, 2019 21:03
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Tighclops posted:I just realized that CBS sells Star Trek to trekkies now the way Hasbro sells Transformers toys to it's fans. Lmao I am unaware of any merchandise even existing without looking it up, aside from Star Trek Online's in-game purchases, but at the same time I know there has to be Star Trek merchandise because Kibayasu posted:At some point you realize that everything on TV is just there to make you buy (some form of) a toy.
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Jul 25, 2019 21:08
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There’s a handful of McFarlane figures and the long-running Eaglemoss ships, and uh... yeah that’s pretty much it aside from the yearly Hallmark stuff and an occasional DST figure. It’s not exactly a lucrative property for merchandise right now. McFarlane even cancelled some planned stuff earlier this year. Definitely a far cry from Transformers.
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Jul 25, 2019 21:10
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The official store has some real gems:    Not gonna lie though this one is kinda cool: 
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Jul 25, 2019 21:12
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Hasbro schmasbro, I had lots of fun with the Playmates Star Trek toys in the mid-'90s. Everyone came with an "action base" based on their race and the phasers had goofy beams attached for some reason. The original lineup had Riker in a torn up shirt lol
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Jul 25, 2019 21:14
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Is that a life-size cardboard cutout or...?
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Jul 25, 2019 21:25
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Hipster_Doofus posted:Is that a life-size cardboard cutout or...? Only $39.99!
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Jul 25, 2019 21:26
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Zurui posted:EAS has a ton of really cool in-depth analysis about stuff nerds care about when they're into Star Trek a little more than is healthy. For example, here's an oft-cited article about the true size of the Defiant. The site used to feature more interesting analysis, but in the Long Night after 2005 turned into him (and some others) exhaustively cataloging every single prop that was ever on the show. I'd appreciate the commitment a bit more if he was a bit more creative about the differences that crop up instead of using it to passive-aggressively bitch about anything from beyond Enterprise's time.
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Jul 25, 2019 21:37
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Snow Cone Capone posted:The official store has some real gems: That coffee mug speaks to me.
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Jul 25, 2019 21:51
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Like 75% of Janeway's character is WANT COFFEE and they waste it like that?
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Jul 25, 2019 21:52
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so I could say that I finally figured out what this god damned cube is doing. Get well Lowtax.
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Make the drat "there's coffee in that nebula" officially licensed mug already SMDH
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Jul 25, 2019 22:00
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I should have explained my point better, Transformers is constantly selling the 80's characters back to fans in increasingly detailed and complex variations over and over again because people want to be reminded of their childhoods, it's just pure nostalgia. I'm not saying this judgmentally either those fuckers got me good the past few years It feels like Trek is doing the same thing, not to sell toys or move merchandise but to sell streaming subscriptions and so on
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Jul 25, 2019 22:02
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Tighclops posted:I should have explained my point better, I am saying it judgementally
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jeeves posted:Isn't there like hours and hours of old footage of Data they could have just like digitally rotoscop'd into whatever they needed? Yes, but this is very expensive and time consuming to do. If it's done badly then it looks very obvious and sucks.
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Jul 25, 2019 22:18
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Fun production fact: Due to the lack of de-aging vfx technology in during TNG, they actually had to piece together the episode Rascals using old home movies of the cast.
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Jul 25, 2019 22:29
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Drink-Mix Man posted:The Voyager intro is literally the best theme and some of the best visuals of the entire franchise. Best intro bar none. Love that shot of a gas giant the size of Pittsburgh.
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Jul 25, 2019 22:35
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END CHEMTRAILS NOW posted:Fun production fact: Due to the lack of de-aging vfx technology in during TNG, they actually had to piece together the episode Rascals using old home movies of the cast. WAit. Were they actually the actors as children or what?
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Jul 25, 2019 22:42
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Arglebargle III posted:a gas giant the size of Pittsburgh. Please don't doxx me.
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Jul 25, 2019 23:00
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I think it was J-Ru who once imitated an executive greenlighting a Star Trek project by saying "we need a klangons and a borgs," and Klingons aside, that's really what Picard and Discovery feel like. Star Trek made by people with only a passing level of interest in Star Trek.
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Jul 25, 2019 23:03
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BioEnchanted posted:WAit. Were they actually the actors as children or what? 
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Jul 25, 2019 23:11
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LividLiquid posted:Star Trek made by people with only a passing level of interest in Star Trek. The jury’s still out on Discovery, but Michael Chabon seems to have a genuine love for the franchise and I trust him to turn in a good series that doesn’t just rely on surface level callbacks. I mean, they brought back Hugh of all things. That’s a fairly deep cut.
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It’s worth noting that just because Chabon is feeling it and trying is best does not mean the result will be good. He wrote John Carter which is way better than anything in the books it’s based on, but is still a dog of a movie. It’s still cause for optimism compared to the hack work that has typified the last 20 years of this series but...
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Jul 25, 2019 23:16
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Big Mean Jerk posted:The jury’s still out on Discovery, but Michael Chabon seems to have a genuine love for the franchise and I trust him to turn in a good series that doesn’t just rely on surface level callbacks. I mean, they brought back Hugh of all things. That’s a fairly deep cut.
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Jul 25, 2019 23:23
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LividLiquid posted:They shouldn't be bringing back anything at all. Through TNG's hundreds of episodes, they had one cameo by McCoy, a two-parter with Spock, and an episode with Scotty. The rest of the show they developed their own poo poo. Agree. I consider the vast majority of cameos and callbacks to be just a way of ingratiating yourself and proving your knowledge/loyalty to the franchise. I like TNG as everyone in this thread knows but that doesn't mean I want constant references to it, because they don't mean anything when they're divorced from context. So in that sense no matter how obscure of a character they're including it's still surface-level because it's just a name and and (maybe) image, it's not the gestalt of the show
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Jul 25, 2019 23:30
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Unlike Star Wars this seems to actually be moving the story forward, rather than redoing the same thing and calling it a sequel.
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Jul 25, 2019 23:33
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BioEnchanted posted:WAit. Were they actually the actors as children or what? Except Guinan. Young Guinan was accomplished using makeup, lighting, and an excellent performance by Whoopi Goldberg.
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Jul 25, 2019 23:38
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Seems kind weird to me to complain about bringing back old characters for what is literally a sequel to a very specific story. Like, if they did a MASH sequel, I wouldn't be annoyed to see Trapper John or whatever in it.
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Jul 25, 2019 23:40
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I guess we should all be happy that nostalgia milking has moved on to THE NEXT GENERATION instead of constantly trying to mine that Kirk era realm. On another note, do any of you actually ever take a step back from the shifting baseline view of being like just raised with it already on the air to realize that "the next generation" is a loving hilarious title for a show? Oh Roddenberry.
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jeeves posted:I guess we should all be happy that nostalgia milking has moved on to THE NEXT GENERATION instead of constantly trying to mine that Kirk era realm. Yeah, dude was probably thinking about GENERATIONS AS ITERATIONS OF HUMAN PROMISE AND THE SHIFT IN PHILOSOPHY WE WON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND OUR OWN CHILDREN, THEY'LL BE HAVING ORGIES AND WAVES OF CUM INSTEAD OF WAR WOWWWW And everyone else is like "wow that's a bad title"
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Jul 25, 2019 23:54
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I just always like the fact that the captain's right hand executive officer is to his right on the bridge AT ALL TIMES, and then to his left is his psychiatrist. That's pretty fukken late 80's Roddenberry all right.
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Jul 25, 2019 23:55
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Seems kind weird to me to complain about bringing back old characters for what is literally a sequel to a very specific story. Yeah, it's not like TNG characters are out of place in a show continuing where TNG left off. Seven showing up is more comparable to the TOS characters who were in TNG, but it doesn't seem gratuitous. Her being in a story with the Borg makes sense, and it also makes sense to me that she would've met up with Picard at some point to talk about their experiences and try to work through it. How many people are there running around the Federation who were Borged? They have a good reason to know each other. They did specifically talk about how they don't want it to just be a reunion show and characters would only show up if it made sense for them to be in the story. Now maybe they just said that and will poo poo all over it, but at the moment I see no reason to think it's out of place for a few TNG characters to be in TNG part two. I think it'd be weirder if they went out of their way to pretend the rest of the TNG cast doesn't exist and have Picard only.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Like, if they did a MASH sequel, I wouldn't be annoyed to see Trapper John or whatever in it. They did a mash sequel that had Trapper John in it. It wasn't very good.
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Jul 26, 2019 00:11
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jeeves posted:I guess we should all be happy that nostalgia milking has moved on to THE NEXT GENERATION instead of constantly trying to mine that Kirk era realm. It just makes me think of children
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It makes sense from a meta view, but it tells you next to nothing about the show itself. I’m not sure what else you’d call it though? Star Trek: The Continuing Mission is a mouthful. Star Trek: He’s Mean and He’s French
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