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FlamingLiberal posted:It's also literally just the first episode too, I don't even think the shots are different. Which begs the question of who on the ship was recording those events in TV format 
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spincube posted:I absolutely love that the way they chose to bring Riker up to speed about events in Part 2 wasn't a discussion in the ship's conference room, like the TNG stereotype, it was by planting him in front of a teevee screen and saying, 'watch this'. Computer, compile a visual log of the past 24 hours. Use some frantic cuts and camera angles. And add some music, Jesus, it's not a funeral.
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Jul 27, 2019 17:31
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S03E22 of DS9. Dax interrupts Bashir flirting with a woman, Bashir hands her a PADD. "Before I forget, here's the immunological data you asked for." 
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Jul 27, 2019 17:59
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Jul 27, 2019 18:16
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I'm enjoying the TNG finale so far with Picard shunting back and forth through time. It's a neat sendoff to all the characters.
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Jul 27, 2019 18:27
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BioEnchanted posted:I'm enjoying the TNG finale so far with Picard shunting back and forth through time. It's a neat sendoff to all the characters. It's probably the best Star Trek finale episode.
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Jul 27, 2019 18:37
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Drone posted:It's probably the best Star Trek finale episode. Especially when it’s only real competition is ‘What You Leave Behind’ Endgame sucks, and obviously ‘These Are The Voyages’ is worse
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Jul 27, 2019 18:40
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FlamingLiberal posted:and obviously ‘These Are The Voyages’ is worse Never heard of it. Enterprise's Terra Prime wasn't bad though.
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Jul 27, 2019 18:43
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CptAwesome posted:S03E22 of DS9. Dax interrupts Bashir flirting with a woman, Bashir hands her a PADD. That whole scene is hilarious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4H9nb03jI8 "Cough, cough!"
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Jul 27, 2019 18:47
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I watched Past Tense fairly recently, which I enjoyed a lot... all the way up until the final few minutes. It seems like they cut off the final act, or at least some sequences of them getting out of the sanctuary, because that was framed as quite an big problem. Also how the only change that was caused by their return to the past was that Bell now looked like Sisko? Things certainly went down a lot differently in this time, didn't it? I've been really enjoying DS9, but they do certainly have a tendency of ending episodes very suddenly.
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Jul 27, 2019 18:56
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Drone posted:It's probably the best Star Trek finale episode. Well it's no "Turnabout Intruder" but it's not bad.
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Jul 27, 2019 19:06
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Drone posted:It's probably the best Star Trek finale episode. It's a bit blatant how they just up and fridge Troi, but I guess it's an extension of how they couldn't think of anything for her to do for seven years.
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Jul 27, 2019 19:15
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It's a little fun every time the writers let slip a little more backstory for Earth between the Federation and now, and every time it's "Things get much, much worse before they ever get any better."
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Jul 27, 2019 19:24
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curiousTerminal posted:Profit and Lace, the only DS9 episode I skipped entirely after reading the summary. Why does everyone always forget the Platonic example of shittiness, Melora? It's as bad as anything Voyager ever gave us. (I assume; I've avoided big chunks of Voyager.)
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Jul 27, 2019 20:12
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Admiralty Flag posted:Picking up discussion from the last page but... I thought Melora had an interesting premise, but fell flat in execution. The worst episodes imo are the ones that were lovely from the word "go" and should have been mercy-killed before they even got to the writers' room. For example, Profit and Lace, or Let He Who Is Without Sin.
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Admiralty Flag posted:Picking up discussion from the last page but... Because it's badness is just a mundane, boring kind of bad. Like, I forgot about Melora until you mentioned it, but when someone says "Bad DS9 episode" Profit and Lace is actively lovely.
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Jul 27, 2019 20:26
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FlamingLiberal posted:It's also literally just the first episode too, I don't even think the shots are different. Which begs the question of who on the ship was recording those events in TV format
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Jul 27, 2019 20:53
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It’s probably related to what powers the Universal Translator.
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Jul 27, 2019 20:54
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Astroman posted:Well it's no "Turnabout Intruder" but it's not bad. Going by stardate I like to pretend All Our Yesterdays is the true finale. It at least feels like one.
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Jul 27, 2019 20:57
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FlamingLiberal posted:It's also literally just the first episode too, I don't even think the shots are different. Which begs the question of who on the ship was recording those events in TV format they've got cameras everywhere on one of those babies, its why they keep it so bright
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Jul 27, 2019 21:50
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8one6 posted:Because it's badness is just a mundane, boring kind of bad. Like, I forgot about Melora until you mentioned it, but when someone says "Bad DS9 episode" Profit and Lace is actively lovely. Right. Melora has at least a decent premise that isn't done very well and Klingon Chef, the best bit character in DS9. It's also interesting that Melora was written by a guy in a wheelchair as sort of an exploration of his own experience. I wish it'd been done better, it could've been really good. Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Jul 27, 2019 |
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Jul 27, 2019 22:21
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There is an interesting symmetry between Rikers first and last onscreen appearances.
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Jul 27, 2019 22:53
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I liked the discussion between future Picard and Future Worf with "You always used me sense of honour to manipulate me!" "BECAUSE IT ALWAYS WORKS!"
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I'm really fascinated to find out what the relationships are going to be like between Picard and the TNG characters that re-appear on the new show. Will they be frazzled and strained after years of life changes like in All Good Things? Closer and more intimate in retirement years without the barriers of professionalism?
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Jul 28, 2019 00:57
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Grand Fromage posted:Right. Melora has at least a decent premise that isn't done very well and Klingon Chef, the best bit character in DS9. It would've helped if the guest character wasn't an aggressively unlikable little poo poo from the word go. Did that come from the writer's experience? If so I think it never could have been good.
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Jul 28, 2019 00:58
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BioEnchanted posted:I liked the discussion between future Picard and Future Worf with "You always used me sense of honour to manipulate me!" "BECAUSE IT ALWAYS WORKS!" In the rerun cut of that they edited out Worf cursing and shoving all the poo poo off his desk which was just  . It totally neutered the scene and literally didn't even shave off 5 lousy seconds.
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Let He Who is Without Profit and Sin and Lace both sound like much better episodes.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:I'm really fascinated to find out what the relationships are going to be like between Picard and the TNG characters that re-appear on the new show. Will they be frazzled and strained after years of life changes like in All Good Things? Closer and more intimate in retirement years without the barriers of professionalism? They could be living millions of light years away from each other. Starfleet crews might never see each other again after they're out of the service.
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Animal-Mother posted:They could be living millions of light years away from each other. Starfleet crews might never see each other again after they're out of the service. Well, yeah, I just meant the characters we will see. (Riker and Troi are supposed to come back for starters.)
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Yeah, that one’s pretty bad too but it at least has the incredibly forced scene where Tasha gives Wesley an extremely 80’s anti-drug PSA. But that's just awkward and dull- ohhh, you're one of those weirdos who gets off on "cringe", aren't you?
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FlamingLiberal posted:It's also literally just the first episode too, I don't even think the shots are different. Which begs the question of who on the ship was recording those events in TV format Obviously it's just the flight recorder, as established in Search for Spock, duh.
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Also you guys can't be loving serious about complaining about that, you think having the characters get around the table and give a verbal synopsis of the plot to-date would have been a better/more entertaining use of time??
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Jul 28, 2019 02:22
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No, but it's still pretty funny to be "hey Riker welcome to the ship, watch the first part of the episode in this broom closet so you can catch up".
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Jul 28, 2019 02:29
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Grand Fromage posted:No, but it's still pretty funny to be "hey Riker welcome to the ship, watch the first part of the episode in this broom closet so you can catch up". He comes out of the viewing like "ah jeez, that's nuts." "It's nuts, right?" "Yeah, I'm glad you showed me that, if you had just said that I'd be like 'whaaat no way lmao'" "Totally that's why we showed you, we were writing it down and were like nah no way lol"
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:But that's just awkward and dull- ohhh, you're one of those weirdos who gets off on "cringe", aren't you? Kinda yeah, but I’ll take a forced 80’s PSA over 45 minutes of beige actors doing beige things in front of a beige wall any day.
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Profit and Lace's greatest sin is it sometimes gets confused with Profit and Loss which is by far a better episode.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Kinda yeah, but I’ll take a forced 80’s PSA over 45 minutes of beige actors doing beige things in front of a beige wall any day. It isn't even really cringe-y. It is just hilariously stupid.
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skasion posted:Watch the “The Cage” episode. If you don’t like it you’ll probably hate the rest of it. If you like it, then at least you didn’t waste your time on any of the really bad ones. This was absolutely awful, I do not care for this at all . It feels like some out of work aspiring actors tried to make a fan show about star trek but one of them had a rich dad . Son of Sam-I-Am posted:For a "minimal" list I'm tempted to say just follow your instincts and watch none of it. I think was the better option, I feel a bit worse knowing the full extent of what is happening here and I want to get off this ride. Now this I like.
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piratepilates posted:This was absolutely awful, I do not care for this at all . It feels like some out of work aspiring actors tried to make a fan show about star trek but one of them had a rich dad . It feels like someone made one of those Markov chain generated Star Trek scripts in to a real show by hiring crew on the offseason of some CW show.
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