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If he does come back hopefully they dont de-age him and just say that he prefers for his hologram to appear as if aging for personal reasons.
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Jul 30, 2019 13:50
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Robert Picardo was already a fairly old dude, so I don;t think they really have to do or say anything. The only major difference in how he looks now is less hair, and that's easily solvable.
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Jul 30, 2019 14:08
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isn't it just a little crazy how voyager had a sapient AI hologram, and that's never really brought up. like he wasn't even meant to be turned on for long, he was just the equivalent of an automated triage droid, but for some reason he was programmed well enough to have his own thoughts, emotions, fears, desires, evolving thought. tng also had a sapient AI created by their own gosh darn computer. they just stuck him in a box and tossed him away like thats not an incredible evolution and something to be celebrated and researched and become a major part of the show.
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Jul 30, 2019 14:13
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piratepilates posted:isn't it just a little crazy how voyager had a sapient AI hologram, and that's never really brought up. Amazing thing happens in one episode and then is not celebrated or researched and does not become a major part of the show IS Star Trek, though. In general, we are led to believe that these things are indeed being researched by Top lol about Moriarty still just chilling in the C: drive four seasons later, though.
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Jul 30, 2019 14:19
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piratepilates posted:like he wasn't even meant to be turned on for long, he was just the equivalent of an automated triage droid, but for some reason he was programmed well enough to have his own thoughts, emotions, fears, desires, evolving thought. I assume that all of the Federation's humanoid holograms were built on top of the same underlying human simulation framework and that framework had all of that built in and way too much growth potential. Maybe that was what the Binars developed.
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Jul 30, 2019 14:25
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Nodosaur posted:Robert Picardo was already a fairly old dude, so I don;t think they really have to do or say anything. The only major difference in how he looks now is less hair, and that's easily solvable. Picard: Did you have more hair the last time I saw you, doctor? Doctor: That's a bold question coming from you, Captain.
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Jul 30, 2019 14:28
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The Bloop posted:Amazing thing happens in one episode and then is not celebrated or researched and does not become a major part of the show IS Star Trek, though. Well if other Federation ships run into a fraction of the weird poo poo that the Enterprise does then the top men probably have quite a backlog of stuff to research.
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Jul 30, 2019 14:37
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The EMH and all the holodeck creations are just instances running off the ship's computer, from which we can intuit that every Fed starship is a sapient entity.
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Jul 30, 2019 15:05
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Picard: Did you have more hair the last time I saw you, doctor? Then they both laugh heartily. "Picard!" says Picard, raising his hands. "O!" says the Doctor, completing the Eiffel tower with his own hands.
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Jul 30, 2019 15:38
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Man, Tuvix is such a good episode. The actor did such a good job. He really sold the mix of warmth and intelligence. He's using Neelix's obnoxious ebullience in a much more logical understanding way. You can really see how both characters gain a lot from the merge, and it's incredible to see it so well performed. It really comes out in his final defense of his existence to Janeway. He's defending the idea that he's a person with rights, but he's being logical and empathetic as he pleads with Janeway, right up until the end. His delivery of "I have the right to live!" was amazing. Just for a moment he's furious that he's in this situation. That's the one of only moments his anger comes out. People joke about Janeway being cruel and crazy, but honestly I didn't get any of that before this episode. She had a strong sense of principle before this, and even when she was failing to be pragmatic in a frustrating way, I respected why she was adhering to those ideals. Even the Prime Directive episodes weren't that bad. But here for the first time I have trouble respecting her decision. But to the actor's credit, she very clearly portrays a captain not comfortable with what she felt she had to do. The best moment belonged to the Doctor. Tuvix had broken down pleading with all his friends on the bridge not to be killed and they all remained silent. But when they got to sickbay, the Doctor clearly stated that he would do no harm and have no part in this. He was the only one who spoke up against Janeway in Tuvix's defense. Jesus, what a tragic story. I wish Neelix or Tuvok had a line at the end though, acknowledging that they remembered pleading for their life moments ago. Neelix seems happy for Kes, but it's unclear what they think about Tuvix, someone they should know as well as Tuvix knew them.
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Jul 30, 2019 19:07
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funkymonks posted:If he does come back hopefully they dont de-age him and just say that he prefers for his hologram to appear as if aging for personal reasons. He could just be playing human Dr. Zimmerman, creator of the EMH
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Jul 30, 2019 19:29
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Drink-Mix Man posted:He could just be playing human Dr. Zimmerman, creator of the EMH that dudes a huge jerkwad
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Jul 30, 2019 19:32
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It's a shame it wasn't a DS9 episode. Give me a Sisquark, or a Jadodo. Keirak, Kishir, Eddingmorn...
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Jul 30, 2019 19:35
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Well you got Kurzodo
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Jul 30, 2019 19:40
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Bashir + Garak = Barak
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Jul 30, 2019 19:41
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Brawnfire posted:Bashir + Garak = Barak Nothing but respect for MY president
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Jul 30, 2019 19:45
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Brawnfire posted:Bashir + Garak = Barak The onanism would be outRAGEous
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Jul 30, 2019 20:07
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Picard: Did you have more hair the last time I saw you, doctor? Omg yes! I don't care what they have to contrive to even make Picard ask this. Make it SO.
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Jul 30, 2019 20:26
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Angry Salami posted:The worst part is that, despite most of the plot including the resolution revolving around Decker and Illa, the film still makes no effort to explain who the hell they are and why we should care. I mean, I'm sure Roddenbury had a very clear idea why it was important that Illa had an oath of celibacy, but in the film itself it's a total non sequitur. Oh yeah there was tons of hosed up Roddenberry backstory that got left in the first few drafts, as was the usual whenever he was involved. Illa is from the Sex Planet and her super power is being unstoppably sexy. "Have you ever sexed with a human before?" was a cut Kirk line.
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Jul 30, 2019 20:45
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Those bastards, they actually did it https://www.startrek.com/news/picard-wine-bordeaux-sirah 
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Jul 30, 2019 20:58
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I kind of figure it'll be "The" Doctor for fanservice reasons, but theoretically there's still an EMH on every Starfleet ship, right? It would be an especially easy cameo to write.
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Jul 30, 2019 20:58
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Snow Cone Capone posted:Those bastards, they actually did it Hell yeah. If it didn't turn my budget into a Dril tweet I would totally get one of these
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Jul 30, 2019 21:05
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Minidust posted:theoretically there's still an EMH on every Starfleet ship, right? On every ship? 
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Jul 30, 2019 21:09
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Jesus, is that Andy Dick? Who did he have to sexually harass to land that part?
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Jul 30, 2019 21:11
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He's friends with Brannon Braga, and just up and asked him for a part. He's a RL trainwreck and terrible person, but he's quite good in that episode.
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Jul 30, 2019 21:20
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Astroman posted:Sure he did, it was because Wouldn't that make giggitying harder
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Jul 30, 2019 21:22
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MorgaineDax posted:He's friends with Brannon Braga, and just up and asked him for a part. Yeahhh I skip Code of Honour and Profit and Lace so if I ever watch Voyager I'm probably gonna skip The One Guest-Starring The Shittiest Celebrity In The World
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Jul 30, 2019 21:26
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Snow Cone Capone posted:Yeahhh I skip Code of Honour and Profit and Lace so if I ever watch Voyager I'm probably gonna skip The One Guest-Starring The Shittiest Celebrity In The World It's actually a fun episode.
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Jul 30, 2019 21:44
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That episode is one of those things that is kind of ruined by real life knowledge for me, I used to really enjoy it but now all I can think is the EMH mark II got phil hartman killed
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Jul 30, 2019 21:48
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Snow Cone Capone posted:Voyager Baronjutter posted:a fun episode 
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Jul 30, 2019 21:49
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Brawnfire posted:Bashir + Garak = Barak Kira + Spock could only be played by William Shatner hamming it up.  I AM KIROCK!!!
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Jul 30, 2019 21:49
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Message in a Bottle is a top tier Voyager episode
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Jul 30, 2019 22:28
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Just lol if you don't think the de-aging we saw in the Picard trailer was a massive improvement to this.
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Jul 30, 2019 22:33
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Baronjutter posted:It's actually a fun episode. Yeah, if you forget everything you know about Andy Dick he's pretty well cast for the part and he and Picardo play well off one another.
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Jul 30, 2019 22:34
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Just lol if you don't think the de-aging we saw in the Picard trailer was a massive improvement to this. Depends on how they play it, I guess, the picture I posted would go best with "Data's programming allows him to age like an actual human being" vs. the uncanny valley mess from the trailer, but as you mentioned #1 it looks better in a still and #2 trailer VFX often differ from final product so we'll see I guess! Drink-Mix Man posted:Yeah, if you forget everything you know about Andy Dick he's pretty well cast for the part and he and Picardo play well off one another. If it were anyone else I probably could but man, that dude has a lot of shittiness to his name.
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Jul 30, 2019 22:38
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To be fair Andy Dick seems to have gone off the rails at some point after Voyager. In the mid to late 90s he was a totally normal sketch and sitcom actor. He’s good in News Radio. All of his insane drug and sexual assault poo poo started after News Radio ended and it’s been all maniac from there. He’s like Roseanne in that sense that you can pretty definitively point to a specific year and draw a separating line between “normal actor” and “absolute piece of poo poo maniac” Blast Fantasto fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Jul 30, 2019 |
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Jul 30, 2019 23:04
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Blast Fantasto posted:To be fair Andy Dick seems to have gone off the rails at some point after Voyager. In the mid to late 90s he was a totally normal sketch and sitcom actor. He’s good in News Radio. He literally got Phil Hartman's wife back on cocaine in the middle of NewsRadio's run.
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Jul 31, 2019 00:19
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piratepilates posted:isn't it just a little crazy how voyager had a sapient AI hologram, and that's never really brought up. Also that time the Enterprise literally came to life and had a kid. I doubt it will happen, but the blurring of lines around what "life" is with no easy distinction between that which evolved versus that which developed is the type of thing I'd love to see Discovery be thrown into in the far future.
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Timby posted:He literally got Phil Hartman's wife back on cocaine in the middle of NewsRadio's run. I'm extremely glad that Jon Lovitz ended up smashing his head into a bar over this
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