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Lord Ludikrous posted:Here’s one for you guys, the estate agent for the flat we moved out of is tying to stiff us to clean the carpet, saying it needs to be professionally cleaned. Our argument is that it’s been cleaned perfectly well, and indeed to a better standard to how it was when we moved in. There are photos. Is the deposit with the DPS? If so you can dispute their assessment of what you're owed and the burden of proof is on them to show that the cleaning was necessary. e: a catte reacting to Boris Johnson as PM 
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Lord Ludikrous posted:Here’s one for you guys, the estate agent for the flat we moved out of is tying to stiff us to clean the carpet, saying it needs to be professionally cleaned. Our argument is that it’s been cleaned perfectly well, and indeed to a better standard to how it was when we moved in. There are photos. Does it say anything about carpet cleaning in the tenancy agreement? If not then, so long as you have documented proof that there is no damage to the carpet beyond expected wear and tear, you're in the clear. They may threaten you with small claims court, but I'd call their bluff. I think there's even an explicit mention of carpet cleaning charges in some government guidelines document. I'll try and dig it out.
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Aug 1, 2019 15:33
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Gum posted:Ask a Kipper if Polish people are "Western" and then ask the same question about a group of immigrants that Kippers do not take issue with, such as Americans or Australians
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ThomasPaine posted:Well yes, but Irish as a language was largely resurrected in the context of resistance against the British state. Ireland's majority population is still de facto part of the anglosphere - even among catholics - and has been since probably the medieval period (i.e. well before imperial capitalism as we understand became the dominant socio-economic system in Britain). I love that the prisoners using Irish to communicate in secret called it "Jailteacht".
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Gum posted:It is a matter of (perceived) creed and culture and pseudoscientific attempts to establish common blood (White is the Aryan of The West). See my edit regarding language, that actually does tend to split modern fascists- see how some identify with Orban and LePen while others have no interest in these 'foreigners' Gum posted:Fascism, as in the movement that gained power in early 20th century, is defined by its rhetoric and aesthetic because if you strip that away you are just left with authoritarian capitalism. We are making the same point. "Masculinity is strength, we hate trans and gays, women need to procreate, men need to serve the state, everything fits into concrete classes and anything that doesn't appear to is a Talmudic abstraction invented by our enemies" is an aesthetic that is going to create a very different type of state to "look we're all equal and if certain types of people always end up getting shat on then it's probably because they didn't work hard enough" even if both are going to be varying degrees of poo poo for certain groups.
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big scary monsters posted:It seems a little unfair to Poles to associate them with the West. Poland has plenty of problems of its own, but it never colonised and oppressed half the planet, even if more through lack of opportunity than lack of intent. poor poland, you wanted to be empire but cannot even into space
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Guavanaut posted:What language do you use when you have to work with the Welsh? Na Sasanaigh beaga? ThomasPaine posted:Well yes, but Irish as a language was largely resurrected in the context of resistance against the British state. Ireland's majority population is still de facto part of the anglosphere - even among catholics - and has been since probably the medieval period (i.e. well before imperial capitalism as we understand became the dominant socio-economic system in Britain). News to me, I've only ever heard that Irish was the majority language up until An Gorta Mór, which was most definitely a product of British imperialism. Anyway, I mostly just wanted to regurgitate some creaky old cúpla focail from 15 years ago
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Tesseraction posted:poor poland, you wanted to be empire but cannot even into space Actually 
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Coohoolin posted:2 years of Irish on duolingo and I think I understood most of that. 2 hours of a group of folk asking 'Is this guy ok? I think he's ok?' 'Oh no he's a melt, ah well I liked him before'
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Tesseraction posted:What is this actually mapping?
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Failed Imagineer posted:cúpla focail Every time I see this phrase I end up with that loving obnoxious 'aon focal, dhá focial, two focail eile' song stuck in my head for the rest of the day.
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Tesseraction posted:What is this actually mapping? Failed Imagineer posted:Na Sasanaigh beaga? Failed Imagineer posted:News to me, I've only ever heard that Irish was the majority language up until An Gorta Mór, which was most definitely a product of British imperialism.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Has this been done? It’s like those Nigerian scams that include direct typos to put off critical thinkers; anyone receptive to the message wont check.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Na Sasanaigh beaga? The Gaelic League was founded in 1893.
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Julio Cruz posted:Is the deposit with the DPS? If so you can dispute their assessment of what you're owed and the burden of proof is on them to show that the cleaning was necessary. Yes it’s with the DPS, and we have photographic proof that we’ve left the carpets in better condition than we found them. Necrothatcher posted:Does it say anything about carpet cleaning in the tenancy agreement? If not then, so long as you have documented proof that there is no damage to the carpet beyond expected wear and tear, you're in the clear. They may threaten you with small claims court, but I'd call their bluff. All that’s in the tenancy agreement is having the flat professionally cleaned before vacating, but I don’t believe there’s a legal definition of “professionally cleaned”. Our plan is to basically disagree that they require cleaning and dispute it with the DPS.
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Guavanaut posted:The Polish Empire alt-historians love that poo poo If by Catholic Church you mean the Tudors.
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Lord Ludikrous posted:All that’s in the tenancy agreement is having the flat professionally cleaned before vacating, but I don’t believe there’s a legal definition of “professionally cleaned”. Get some business cards printed for Lord Ludikrous Cleaning Services Ltd.
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I don't think that's how citizenship works, or he'd be a citizen of the Third Reich. Granted, they did very much want to go into space 
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sinky posted:Get some business cards printed for Lord Ludikrous Cleaning Services Ltd. LLCS LLC surely? While we're talking about welsh anyway 
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Guavanaut posted:I've heard that it started with the Catholic Church switching to preferring English in the 1700s, which led to bilingualism and a dearth of written Irish, but yeah that was a big hit to bilingual Irish. While Quora is obviously poo poo, the top answer here seems to jibe with my understanding of the situation https://www.quora.com/Why-does-Ireland-speak-English-and-not-Irish And that it was really Edward Stanley establishing the National School system in the 1830s, which was a deeply-racist system of Irish cultural repression. Then An Gorta Mór happens, you get a huge death toll, huge emigration, and huge urban migration, all of which amounts to a sudden flip to an Anglophone culture. Frankly I don't see the assertion that Irish was revived as some sort of quaint cultural exercise to be anything other than racist fiction. Although it is true that a lot of what the Gaelic League were doing was sort of creating a new republican mythology as they went along Failed Imagineer fucked around with this message at 16:15 on Aug 1, 2019 |
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feedmegin posted:I don't think that's how citizenship works, or he'd be a citizen of the Third Reich. Granted, they did very much want to go into space :nazi: Did I stutter, sir? Polands cannot into space.
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lemonadesweetheart posted:If by Catholic Church you mean the Tudors.  Seán De Fréine's The Great Silence talks about a lot of middle class Catholic families preferring English in the 1700s, probably to distance themselves from the poor, so the Church shifts, so Irish written works decline and bilingualism increases. Most of the working class are still going to be speaking Irish at home at that point though, which I'd imagine is the case up until Failed Imagineer posted:Edward Stanley establishing the National School system in the 1830s, which was a deeply-racist system of Irish cultural repression.
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There were also laws on the books prohibiting the use of the language in a number of different ways, so it's not just a matter of preference but of utility.
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We’re all doomed https://twitter.com/dawnhfoster/status/1156934324895326208?s=21
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lemonadesweetheart posted:There were also laws on the books prohibiting the use of the language in a number of different ways, so it's not just a matter of preference but of utility.
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Guavanaut posted:That split dates back to the BUF. "Fascists of different nations should unite, while of course remaining in their own nations" vs. "gently caress those other nations, they're foreign and can do what they like, let's focus on us being strong at home" was dividing fascists since before the Enabling Act. It's an inherent contradiction of fascism. What's happening today is more than just "working with foreign movements". The alt-right is not a British movement working alongside an American movement working alongside a Canadian movement, ect. It is a single movement that sees itself as one people quote:That rhetoric and aesthetic is hugely important in the type of society produced compared to other forms of authoritarian capitalism or liberal capitalism. When it comes down to it, what actually is the difference between saying "This group is superior to that group" and creating a society where "this group" is at the top and "that group" is at the bottom and then saying "The people at the top are superior to those at the bottom"? That said, you do have a point. The more explicit rhetoric of fascism results in society reaching the end state of rigid social and ethnic hierarchies a lot quicker than the more implicit rhetoric of neoliberalism
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Failed Imagineer posted:News to me, I've only ever heard that Irish was the majority language up until An Gorta Mór, which was most definitely a product of British imperialism. Yeah looks like I'm talking total shite on this one lol.
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Gum posted:Ask a Kipper if Polish people are "Western" and then ask the same question about a group of immigrants that Kippers do not take issue with, such as Americans or Australians Neoliberalism is pretty much only concerned with making the world safe for capital. As a side effect of its project to concentrate most of the world’s wealth in an ever smaller slice of the global 0.1%, it lifted 5-600M Chinese people plus assorted South and South-East Asian out of abject, no-safety-net poverty (in the process, many of them worked in literal-safety-net-outside-the-building factories and/or were cheated out of their pay, and it was STILL better than what came before). Microsoft and Google have ethnically Indian CEOs; Uber’s is Iranian. It’s not solely the West that does this - China is doing a neoliberalism in parts of East Africa right now, with the side effect that stuff is being built there, and local people are getting skills and training, and playing games to steal technical know how etc from Chinese investors so they can set up their own competing factories, in exactly the same way that Chinese workers of the 90s and 00s did from Americans. Neoliberalism is strictly inferior to either democratic socialism or social democracy, promotes awful behaviour and is in theory eventually unsustainable, but that doesn’t make it fascism. Fascism is anti-globalist; it needs rules to prevent anyone from outside the chosen group from getting uppity and needs privileges for people inside the chosen group.
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 I was going to guess Spiked's Brendan O'Neill, but it's The Spectator and Christopher Caldwell. Gum posted:What's happening today is more than just "working with foreign movements". The alt-right is not a British movement working alongside an American movement working alongside a Canadian movement, ect. It is a single movement that sees itself as one people Gum posted:The more explicit rhetoric of fascism results in society reaching the end state of rigid social and ethnic hierarchies a lot quicker than the more implicit rhetoric of neoliberalism e: ^^^ also that
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Tesseraction posted:editing 4 hours of Scottish posters arguing over which English poster is the biggest bawbag while the bristol set discuss bars/clubs and namtab and I debate which is Best Girl this season Well, who is best girl?
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Ratjaculation posted:And just when I thought the thread title tweet was peak stupid. Oh you want some bad takes? Get a load of this https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/priti-patel-perfect-person-shake-parlous-criminal-justice-system/
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Guavanaut posted:Didn't everyone just ignore those outside of the Ulster plantations and The Pale? I guess if you're middle class enough you might be dealing with English officials bilingualism is a matter of utility, but it's not like people in Cork cared in the same way they did when the Church switched. (Or obviously during the later more direct British interventions.) Yeah, there were Hedge Schools. But, you could be killed for teaching at a Hedge School, it wasn't really a case of "lol whatever" even in the People's Republic of Cork E: although apparently there weren't really many prosecutions for that, so I dunno wtf. Probably was bad news to get caught. Failed Imagineer fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Aug 1, 2019 |
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Ahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahaha Ah yes, its more logical for the Irish to go with the guys who hate the Irish.
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Aramoro posted:Oh you want some bad takes? Get a load of this I'm glad the stupidity fades into the paywall because my brain...
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