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Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe
The Tories, corrupt, money-grubbing cunts, you say? No way!

https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexwickham/graham-brady-michael-fallon-free-trip-cayman-islands

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Darth Walrus posted:

Well, who is best girl?


Failed Imagineer posted:

Yeah, there were Hedge Schools. But, you could be killed for teaching at a Hedge School, it wasn't really a case of "lol whatever" even in the People's Republic of Cork

E: although apparently there weren't really many prosecutions for that, so I dunno wtf. Probably was bad news to get caught.
What era were those? I was thinking more about

lemonadesweetheart posted:

If by Catholic Church you mean the Tudors.
where yeah they did make some laws requiring English and forbidding anything Irish they didn't like, but English control of those things beyond The Pale, so to speak, was more like a bunch of EDL twats wandering around Kinshasa yelling "speak English" as far as I was aware. Annoying and probably going to get someone beat up, but the vast majority of people would not be changing their home language over it.

Then you have the organized oppression of what types of schools and churches were allowed in the 19th century, which was very different. And from what I've read, a period in between with Anglo-Irish landlords and an English speaking Church and bilingual middle class but most workers speaking Irish at home, but idk the exact degree of organized oppression there.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

Aphex- posted:

Greggs is definitely poo poo. I had a sausage and egg roll there the other day for breakfast and it was like I was transported back to being a poor freshman who buys the cheapest ingredients I can find and cooks them really badly. The egg turned to dust in my mouth.

Speaking of supermarkets from last thread, I used to use Tesco since they were the closest but since I've moved the only one around is Sainsbury's, and while it's not that great they do at least have the proper rooster sriracha instead of that weird goose poo poo that Tesco has.

Agreed on all fronts. The rooster sriracha is MUCH better than the goose stuff. The goose brand tastes really artificial, somehow.

Greggs is poo poo, but the value is that you know it will only be some value of poo poo other than completely poo poo. I never used to have their stuff much because I'm a vegetarian and they didn't have much (before vegan sos rolls), but yeah, at least they're consistent and cheap.

Also yeah I think Tesco was a pioneer in supermarkets in the 90's - they did a lot of stuff nobody seemed to have done yet, but now they're just in this weird middle ground. Some of their food is alright.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
LOL - one of the dirtiest men in British politics says:

quote:

Lord Mandelson: I feel dirty staying in the Labour Party
The Labour peer calls for Jeremy Corbyn to step down

https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/lord-mandelson-i-feel-dirty-staying-in-the-labour-party-1.486914

quote:

Lord Mandelson has said he feels “dirty” staying in a Labour Party in which “no effective action” is being taken against people holding antisemitic views.

In a damning new interview, the Labour peer blamed Jeremy Corbyn for allowing thousands of people carrying the “virus” of anti-Jewish racism to join the party and flourish within it.

But he said he intended to stay and “fight to save the Labour Party” insisting, “that is what I devote energy to, every single day.

“Throughout my life I have never known antisemitism, or ‘anti-Jewish racism’ as I prefer to call it, in the Labour Party, but when he became leader there was an influx of thousands of people to the Labour Party membership and, since this time, antisemitism has spread like a virus among Labour Party grassroots, as their use of social media has been exposed.

“It’s a minority, but it’s there, present. Not only have we lost the votes of Jewish people, we’ve lost the votes of many ordinary voters, as well as liberal opinion, people who hate racism, people who followed the Labour Party because they thought of the Labour Party as an anti-racist party.”

etc

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
So thousands of new people joined the Labour party? Sounds good.
Some small minority of those people are racists? Sounds bad but par for the course in Britain.
Some of those people were only exposed as racists through social media use? Welcome to 2019.

Where's the bit where it spreads 'like a virus' and non-racist Labour members are now racist Mandy?

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



How rich is this Armitage Shanks fella that almost every urinal is reserved for him?

Pilchenstein
May 17, 2012

So your plan is for half of us to die?

Hot Rope Guy
So what I'm getting from these proposed border solutions is that we're leaving Europe very briefly before we get annexed for trying to immediately invade a member state :v:

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Guavanaut posted:


What era were those? I was thinking more about


1700s basically, although I guess a lot of the Penal Laws were a response to the Gunpowder Plot I think it took a while for them to get around to completely suppressing Catholicism and Gaelic culture

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Tesseraction posted:

editing 4 hours of Scottish posters arguing over which English poster is the biggest bawbag while the bristol set discuss bars/clubs and namtab and I debate which is Best Girl this season

I am so up for doing a podcast ep where me, sebzilla and mfcrocker spend the whole making GBS threads on Mr. Wolf's

(Realtalk: a UKMT podcast could probably end up working really well cause we've got such a wide variety of interests, areas of knowledge and expertises that people could rotate in and out to fit the subject matter)

Scikar
Nov 20, 2005

5? Seriously?

Lord Ludikrous posted:

Yes it’s with the DPS, and we have photographic proof that we’ve left the carpets in better condition than we found them.


All that’s in the tenancy agreement is having the flat professionally cleaned before vacating, but I don’t believe there’s a legal definition of “professionally cleaned”.

Our plan is to basically disagree that they require cleaning and dispute it with the DPS.

I went through basically the same, although in Scotland (but I think they work the same now). The first stage is you email the agent/landlord and say you have photos, you don't see any reason why you should pay for additional carpet cleaning. They should just give up at this point. If they don't, they have to submit the bill to the DPS in order to claim it from the deposit. The onus is on them to prove that the cleaning is required, which is why it will almost certainly fail if they are actually cleaner than when you started. You then dispute the bill through the DPS, with the photos included, and wait for the arbitrator to check them. They then find in your favour and return your deposit in full.

As far as I can tell from my experience and what I've heard from others, the tenant will normally win as long as they dispute it, but letting agents are all total loving chancers and it doesn't cost them anything to try so of course they will apply for it anyway. The cleaning company will be owned by the letting agent anyway and charge double the market rate for their books, so if they don't get the money out of your deposit they will probably just charge it to the landlord instead. Either way they make bank.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

I brought it up last thread because having spent 31 years of my life in Slough I'd never heard of Slough General, though I have spent many hours in the A&E department of Wexham Park. Oddly enough, most kids I grew up with were born in Heatherwood Hospital in Ascot because their maternity ward was much better than Wexham Park's and everything I've heard since tells me that even now that's still true

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Failed Imagineer posted:

I guess a lot of the Penal Laws were a response to the Gunpowder Plot
If I could travel back in time and appear as an apparition like in that Orson Scott Card book I'd appear to Paul on the road to Damascus and call him a oval office. It'd stop so much trouble in the long run, although I suspect the peoples of Europe would find something else to be a dick about.

If I could travel back as a non apparition I'd tread on the first thing that tried to come out of the sea.

e: ^^^ Isn't the "NHS touting to wealthy non-EU people to pay to get operations done in British hospitals" a real thing though, since they cut funding and increased the allowed percentage of paid work? And the BXP tosser is just confusing problems of capitalism with problems of immigration as always.

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Aug 1, 2019

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Guavanaut posted:

If I could travel back in time and appear as an apparition like in that Orson Scott Card book I'd appear to Paul on the road to Damascus and call him a oval office. It'd stop so much trouble in the long run, although I suspect the peoples of Europe would find something else to be a dick about.

Are you completely sure that's not what happened to him anyway?

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1156964825794273280

:shepspends:

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Rarity posted:

I am so up for doing a podcast ep where me, sebzilla and mfcrocker spend the whole making GBS threads on Mr. Wolf's

Don't think I've ever actually been there so my contributions would be limited to being salty that they've never booked any of my bands.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Darth Walrus posted:

Are you completely sure that's not what happened to him anyway?
:aaaaa:

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


I would be up for editing a UKMT podcast if such a thing ever came about, I enjoyed editing the radio pieces I did in college when I was training to be a hack until my conscience pointed out they were almost universally cunts.

E: I may join in too if people want bad takes and a staunch defence of the red monster munch being the best monster munch

mehall
Aug 27, 2010


Rarity posted:

I am so up for doing a podcast ep where me, sebzilla and mfcrocker spend the whole making GBS threads on Mr. Wolf's

(Realtalk: a UKMT podcast could probably end up working really well cause we've got such a wide variety of interests, areas of knowledge and expertises that people could rotate in and out to fit the subject matter)

I am 100% up for doing a podcast

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

It's actually quite interesting to Google £2 billion and see what it gets you. It's quite a bit of money for a city infrastructure project. For a national resilience project, not so much. The bank bailout for the 2008 financial crisis, for instance, cost north of £400 billion.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
What exactly are they going to spend this on?

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.
I'm assuming it's easy enough to record a voice chat or something? The first one could just be a round up of the weekly news, someone to host/curate/keep things on topic. We'd also immediately be somewhat popular because as an SA project we'd be chapo/hbomb/Shaun adjacent

Noxville
Dec 7, 2003

Azza Bamboo posted:

What exactly are they going to spend this on?

Bunting and countdown clocks.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Azza Bamboo posted:

What exactly are they going to spend this on?

Preparation projects all done by private companies who all happen to be owned by Boris' mates.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Azza Bamboo posted:

What exactly are they going to spend this on?

Infrastructure investment seems the most obvious answer, but lol if you think a mere £2 billion will get you anywhere near the number of roads and warehouses you need for NDB.

limited
Dec 10, 2005
Limited Sanity

Darth Walrus posted:

It's actually quite interesting to Google £2 billion and see what it gets you. It's quite a bit of money for a city infrastructure project. For a national resilience project, not so much. The bank bailout for the 2008 financial crisis, for instance, cost north of £400 billion.
That was pretty much my thought as soon as I saw it. I'd have to adjust my tinfoil hat, but I'd peg it as a soundbite they can use to claim they've made preperations for no deal, and £2.1 billion quid sounds good. Rolling on, they'll probably point fingers at the EU for being so darn greedy wanting R PROUD BRITISH MONEYZ when everything gets hosed up.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Beefeater1980 posted:

Neoliberalism is strictly inferior to either democratic socialism or social democracy, promotes awful behaviour and is in theory eventually unsustainable, but that doesn’t make it fascism. Fascism is anti-globalist; it needs rules to prevent anyone from outside the chosen group from getting uppity and needs privileges for people inside the chosen group.

But neoliberalism is a form of capitalism, and fascism is a big part of the capitalism toolkit. So while you're right to say that neoliberalism is not itself fascist, it will definitely lead to an increase of fascism as it starts to fall apart.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
How much does a bridge to Northern Ireland cost?

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/chancellor-announces-billions-to-turbo-charge-no-deal-preparations

quote:

Targeted funding allocated today will support critical operations, including:

o £344 million to help get new border and customs operations ready. This includes:

An extra 500 border force officers, meaning we will have added up to 1,000 more officers this year.

Boosting capacity to process UK passport applications this year, helping avoid delays.

Doubling the support made available for customs agents to train new staff or invest in better IT so businesses can get the support they need to complete customs declarations.

Improving transport infrastructure around ports and additional funding for ‘Operation Brock’ to manage traffic disruption in Kent.

Enhancing support available on government helplines.

o £434 million made available to help ensure continuity of vital medicines and medical products, including through freight capacity, warehousing and stockpiling.

o £108 million available to promote and support businesses to ensure they are ready for Brexit, including a national programme of business readiness and helping exporters to prepare for, and capitalise on, new opportunities.

o £138 million to boost public communications, including:

A new information campaign to help people and businesses get ready to leave on 31 October.

Increasing consular support and information for Brits living abroad.

Support for local areas including Northern Ireland.

In addition to the £1.1 billion immediate funding, the Chancellor has also committed today that a further £1 billion will be available for all departments and the devolved administrations to enhance operational preparedness for the UK’s departure from the EU on 31 October. Departments will be invited to submit bids to the Treasury if they require additional funding, and the devolved administrations can submit bids where they face disproportionate pressures compared to England.

that's not a lot of funding and amounts to leasing temporary storage and equipment, not building anything much

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Azza Bamboo posted:

How much does a bridge to Northern Ireland cost?

At least triple what the Channel Tunnel did even before you add in all the extra "efficiency" we've managed to find in megaprojects since then.

(based on the original estimates for the channel crossing with a bridge being at least triple the price of a tunnel - doesn't account for the much bigger engineering problems, plus the massive extra infrastructure required at either side - there were already ports at both sides of the Channel Tunnel, but there's absolutely gently caress-all on the mainland side of the shortest crossing distance)

goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Aug 1, 2019

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Darth Walrus posted:

Are you completely sure that's not what happened to him anyway?

This is like the micro-SF version of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let%27s_Go_to_Golgotha!

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
when I get my SIA license will the jobcentre want me to apply for the new border force jobs?

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Azza Bamboo posted:

when I get my SIA license will the jobcentre want me to apply for the new border force jobs?

I hope you have sturdy kneecaps

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Azza Bamboo posted:

How much does a bridge to Northern Ireland cost?

A 2010 study suggest about £21bn. Add in the sort of insanely incompetent budgeting that saw HS2 go from £20bn to a predicted £85bn and you're probably easily looking in the £40-50bn range. And I'm not even sure if that figure includes the cost of cleaning up Beaufort's Dyke.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Azza Bamboo posted:

How much does a bridge to Northern Ireland cost?

3.5 billion at the last estimate.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Guavanaut posted:

So thousands of new people joined the Labour party? Sounds good.
Some small minority of those people are racists? Sounds bad but par for the course in Britain.
Some of those people were only exposed as racists through social media use? Welcome to 2019.

Where's the bit where it spreads 'like a virus' and non-racist Labour members are now racist Mandy?
I like the casual conflation of social media and antisemitism, the third reich having famously organised crystalnacht via loving whatsapp.

Coohoolin posted:

I'm assuming it's easy enough to record a voice chat or something? The first one could just be a round up of the weekly news, someone to host/curate/keep things on topic. We'd also immediately be somewhat popular because as an SA project we'd be chapo/hbomb/Shaun adjacent
What I like about Chapo is that it's clearly five friends having fun talking about politics. We Don't Talk About The Weather bothers me because while I'm sure it's just as informative, it sounds like two dudes giving each other reacharounds over the weakest punchlines so that it sounds like they're having fun.

I would very much be interested in listening to a UK focused Chapo. You just need a good title.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

forkboy84 posted:

A 2010 study suggest about £21bn. Add in the sort of insanely incompetent budgeting that saw HS2 go from £20bn to a predicted £85bn and you're probably easily looking in the £40-50bn range. And I'm not even sure if that figure includes the cost of cleaning up Beaufort's Dyke.



Does that account for how much the pound will be worth post brexit?

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


Bobby Deluxe posted:

You just need a good title.

UKMT is a brand, and we need to preserve it in case the mirror universe counterparts start their own podcast. I wouldn’t want to be confused with confirmed enemies of the monster munch people

mehall
Aug 27, 2010


Bobby Deluxe posted:

You just need a good title.

"Listening to us is Praxis"

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!


mehall posted:

"Listening to us is Praxis"

UKMP

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Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Sanitary Naptime posted:

UKMT is a brand, and we need to preserve it in case the mirror universe counterparts start their own podcast. I wouldn’t want to be confused with confirmed enemies of the monster munch people
UK Miwk Time

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