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Who do you wish to win the Democratic primaries?
This poll is closed.
Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher 18 1.46%
Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer 665 54.11%
Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker 319 25.96%
Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord 26 2.12%
Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe 5 0.41%
Julian Castro, the Twin 5 0.41%
Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer 5 0.41%
Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath 17 1.38%
Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino 3 0.24%
Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist 8 0.65%
Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen 86 7.00%
Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater 23 1.87%
Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool 32 2.60%
Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy 2 0.16%
Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast 1 0.08%
Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated 4 0.33%
Tim Ryan, the Dope Face 3 0.24%
John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran 7 0.57%
Total: 1229 votes
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yronic heroism
Oct 31, 2008

twodot posted:

First of all "I know three people who think Sanders talks too loud" isn't dissent. Second, why would minor dissent ever be a good thing? Like if a poster came in here and said "I think Sanders' shirt is three shades too light" we would tell them to shut the gently caress up, because that is not a thing that warrants any discussion. If you want to criticize Sanders it should be on real substantive issues that matter and not minute aesthetics.

Surely this thread, as the pinnacle of rationality, has never commented on minute asthetics of non-Bernie candidates and would always devolve into a 5 page shitfit if such things were brought up.

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Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


yronic heroism posted:

Surely this thread, as the pinnacle of rationality, has never commented on minute asthetics of non-Bernie candidates and would always devolve into a 5 page shitfit if such things were brought up.

do you have any examples?

yronic heroism
Oct 31, 2008

Condiv posted:

do you have any examples?

Of how D&D goons are God’s perfect angels?

Only every precious post itt, friend.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


here's shaun king on kamala

https://twitter.com/shaunking/status/1157113953291517953?s=20

https://twitter.com/shaunking/status/1157114959664427008?s=20

yronic heroism posted:

Of how D&D goons are God’s perfect angels?

Only every precious post itt, friend.

i'll take that as a no. thanks for the contentless meta-post

Theotus
Nov 8, 2014

In a shocking turn of events, cops are goddamn terrible.

yronic heroism
Oct 31, 2008

The funny thing is you think it’s controversial that the thread reacts to Sanders optics posts different than others.

Nonsense posted:

Biden makes Sanders appear even more robust and youthful.




Dude looks terminal.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

yronic heroism posted:

The funny thing is you think it’s controversial that the thread reacts to Sanders optics posts different than others.

You got us, saying a dude looks like he's going to die is exactly the same as saying Bernie is unelectable because he's too loud

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
How can you complain about people raising absolute horseshit complaints about Bernie and also laugh at how old Biden looks, it's hosed up

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


Meridian posted:

In a shocking turn of events, cops are goddamn terrible.

you don't know the half of it. apparently, the sole witness in that case was practically bribed to point the finger at trulove

the cops from the beginning had him as their primary suspect, but the only person close to a witness said the street was too dark to be certain

they pushed and goaded her in the usual police way:

quote:

Police suggested that Trulove was the prime suspect just hours after Kuka’s murder on July 23, 2007. That night, Lualemaga told police that she “didn’t really get a good look at the shooter,” but after she failed to identify Trulove in an interview with officers, one asked, “Are you sure it wasn’t Jamal Trulove?” Lualemaga still wasn’t sure. “No, I don’t know,” she said.

The following evening, detectives showed Lualemaga a photo lineup that included the same picture of Trulove from the previous night. According to Lualemaga’s testimony, the detectives said they had identified the shooter and would show her his photo. Contrary to standard procedure, the six photos in the lineup included people that Lualemaga knew—and had not identified as Kuka’s shooter—as well as Trulove. Rather than bringing Lualemaga into the station to videotape this unconventional procedure, officers tape-recorded part of it in the back of their car. In this statement, Lualemaga’s “identification” of Trulove as the shooter was: “He looks like the person that could have shot [Kuka]” and “I want to say it’s him.”

but then they went further and said that they could move Lualemaga out of the two bedroom apartment she lived with 6 other people in if she testified....

quote:

In May 2009, shortly before a key hearing in Trulove’s case where Lualemaga would identify him as the shooter, the San Francisco DA claimed it was necessary to move her from public housing into witness protection. A Jan. 12, 2010 memo filed as an exhibit in Trulove’s civil rights lawsuit shows that this arrangement was approved by Larry J. Wallace, a longtime Harris aide who followed her to the California Department of Justice when she became attorney general in 2010, and later to her Sacramento field office when she became a United States senator in 2017. In December 2018, Wallace resigned from Harris’s staff after the Sacramento Bee reported on a $400,000 settlement between Wallace and a woman who accused him of sex discrimination and retaliation at the state DOJ.

the prosecution, during his trial, pretended that his family was gonna assassinate the witness for testifying against him, and that her being moved via the witness protection program was proof of how brave and truthful she was as opposed to a corrupt as gently caress dealing to railroad this guy into jail

you'll notice how one of kamala's hatchetmen did the dirty work as per usual. she seems smart enough to at least keep from directly authorizing these shady deals.

yronic heroism posted:

The funny thing is you think it’s controversial that the thread reacts to Sanders optics posts different than others.

is nonsense refusing to vote for biden because he looks terminal? cause I'm p sure there's myriad other reasons not to vote for biden that people reach for

the whole kerfluffle in the thread was in response to claims that people would not vote for bernie because he's "too loud".

Condiv fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Aug 2, 2019

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene

yronic heroism posted:

The funny thing is you think it’s controversial that the thread reacts to Sanders optics posts different than others.

yronic heroism
Oct 31, 2008

BENGHAZI 2 posted:

You got us, saying a dude looks like he's going to die is exactly the same as saying Bernie is unelectable because he's too loud

Except he doesn’t look like he’s gonna die and it’s extreme hyperbole that goes unremarked on. Because he’s not Bernie.

yronic heroism
Oct 31, 2008

Condiv posted:

the whole kerfluffle in the thread was in response to claims that people would not vote for bernie because he's "too loud".

Okay since you’re the one whose big on asking for quotes, show me the post where a goon said he wouldn’t vote for Sanders because of yelling.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Bernie's doing a better job of staying on brand than anyone else. Anger must keep you spry.

mormonpartyboat
Jan 14, 2015

by Reene
goofus screams at women about socialism


gallant whispers gently in women's ears that they look really pretty today

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


yronic heroism posted:

Okay since you’re the one whose big on asking for quotes, show me the post where a goon said he wouldn’t vote for Sanders because of yelling.

jaxyon spent several pages arguing with people about it, and whether or not it was a valid reason not to vote for a candidate. said argument stretched till last page. I don't really feel the need to dig up quotes on something that just ended

please refer to the leper's colony probation of jaxyon if you need a link into the middle of the argument, or use the back button on the thread

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
The whole 'I have friends who are frightened and traumatised by Bernie' thing has been a recurring feature of this thread. Never the poster themselves.

yronic heroism
Oct 31, 2008

Condiv posted:

jaxyon spent several pages arguing with people about it, and whether or not it was a valid reason not to vote for a candidate. said argument stretched till last page. I don't really feel the need to dig up quotes on something that just ended

please refer to the leper's colony probation of jaxyon if you need a link into the middle of the argument, or use the back button on the thread

*kramers into thread*

Sourcing posts is incredibly important you guys. I demand proof of your meta post besmirching the honor of D&D.

*gestures haplessly at thread and leper’s colony*

It should be somewhere in there I think.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


yronic heroism posted:

*kramers into thread*

Sourcing posts is incredibly important you guys. I demand proof of your meta post besmirching the honor of D&D.

*gestures haplessly at thread and leper’s colony*

It should be somewhere in there I think.

if you wanna make claims about stuff that didn't happen recently, you should have source yronic. this really shouldn't be surprising.

jaxyon on the other hand was probated less than an hour ago for the long argument that you referenced in your original metapost. I don't think I need to source jaxyon when you're whining about how people treated him. press the back button and you'll see the tail-end of the argument if you absolutely need a refresher though

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

yronic heroism posted:

*kramers into thread*

Sourcing posts is incredibly important you guys. I demand proof of your meta post besmirching the honor of D&D.

*gestures haplessly at thread and leper’s colony*

It should be somewhere in there I think.

Jesus Christ yronic shut up lol.

buddhist nudist
May 16, 2019
Biden old. Sanders loud and old. I pledge to vote for the most fuckable candidate on the primary ballot.

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay

buddhist nudist posted:

Biden old. Sanders loud and old. I pledge to vote for the most fuckable candidate on the primary ballot.



Yang Gang Bang

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer
I will still give you a month for horny posting, horny is prohibited.

really though no one cares which candidate you would gently caress and it just invites gross conversations about candidates, especially female ones. You can have these thoughts and desires but don’t post about it.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Charlz Guybon posted:

Who the gently caress are all these newbies who don't know about Uglycat living the Anarchist dream?

Catching up on this thread and am just astounded at all the posters who are ignorant of it.

Does stalking random people, taking photos of them and uploading them to Facebook accusing them of being Russian agents count as the Anarchist Dream?

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Is the womb lock like an airlock? You don't want the wombs to escape into the vacuum of the senate.

JazzFlight
Apr 29, 2006

Oooooooooooh!

LeeMajors posted:

WHATS NEXT? FREE VACATIONS? WHERE DOES IT END? - smart man
Not only that, but the very first thing he scoffs at is "What's next? Free housing?" and I'm like, sounds good to me dude.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

HootTheOwl posted:

Is the womb lock like an airlock? You don't want the wombs to escape into the vacuum of the senate.

It's quite clearly the :wom: lock. And God help us if that lock is broken

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

Ironic how the poster calling out Bernie on his volume was silenced themselves.

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

T Bowl posted:

There are way more moderates who can swing either way than almost all political nerds are willing or aware enough to admit so

I think the lesson of the last decade or so is that not being tied to a single political party doesn't necessarily mean you're a moderate. It just means your primary issue positions are ones that neither party consistently gives a gently caress about, and the major parties' consistent issues are ones you don't necessarily give a gently caress about, so you swing back and forth based on individual candidates' specific issue positions.

These people who aren't satisfied by the major party platforms are often where outsider candidates like Perot or Paul draw their support, but they can also end up voting for major-party candidates in a way that confuses the heck out of pundits that pretend those issue positions and priorities don't exist. For example, Obama-Trump voters.

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008
Most "moderates" have become more partisan over the last little while, even if they're not registered for either party: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/03/14/most-independents-are-just-moderate-partisans/

shades of eternity
Nov 9, 2013

Where kitties raise dragons in the world's largest mall.
https://openargs.com/oa302-democracyrip/

The podcast opening arguments are pointing out that there might have been Russian influence over the primaries already.

punishedkissinger
Sep 20, 2017

shades of eternity posted:

https://openargs.com/oa302-democracyrip/

The podcast opening arguments are pointing out that there might have been Russian influence over the primaries already.

No one is ever going to give a poo poo about this

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014




https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/02/us/politics/2020-democratic-fundraising.html

shades of eternity posted:

https://openargs.com/oa302-democracyrip/

The podcast opening arguments are pointing out that there might have been Russian influence over the primaries already.

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

kidkissinger posted:

No one is ever going to give a poo poo about this
And nobody who isn't a podcast listener is going to listen to a podcast episode to get the information. They need to write an article or contact someone who will

but even then, we need to end party meddling in our elections before I'm going to give a single poo poo about *~the Russians~*

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007




Bernie's gonna win y'all, despite the media's best efforts.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
quick everyone, the russians are doing something that than any american company, PR firm, candidate, official party apparatus, or even state actors like Israel or Saudi Arabia are doing!

the russia xenophobia is the closest thing modern libs will get to the red scare they want so bad

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Son of Thunderbeast posted:


but even then, we need to end party meddling in our elections before I'm going to give a single poo poo about *~the Russians~*

This is a pretty monster hot take considering that the solutions to both issues have a lot of overlap

It's not like "protecting voting machines from Russian" meddling" is a completely distinct issue from "protecting voting machines from Republican meddling." And even issues like campaign finance get a lot less distinct when Russian oligarchs are dump-trucking money into Mitch McConnell's district etc.

Phi230 posted:

quick everyone, the russians are doing something that than any american company, PR firm, candidate, official party apparatus, or even state actors like Israel or Saudi Arabia are doing!


Apparently this thread thinks that makes it ok or something?

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

twodot posted:

First of all "I know three people who think Sanders talks too loud" isn't dissent. Second, why would minor dissent ever be a good thing? Like if a poster came in here and said "I think Sanders' shirt is three shades too light" we would tell them to shut the gently caress up, because that is not a thing that warrants any discussion. If you want to criticize Sanders it should be on real substantive issues that matter and not minute aesthetics.

Excuse me sir, sir, Bernie's loud shirts are scaring my children, have some empathy

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
this is the subforum that had numerous posters advocating for the genocide of the russian people

i think by now you should see the actual intent and purpose behind russia hysteria

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005
Reporters on my local NPR affiliate yesterday were blaming the criticism of Harris' criminal justice record on Russia

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Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Hieronymous Alloy posted:


Apparently this thread thinks that makes it ok or something?

America has shed the blood of millions to interfere in international politics, overthrown democratic governments, funded terrorism to oppose leftist governments, etc..., and now every single American company/PR firm does exactly what you accuse Russia of doing. Every election, in a much wider scope and larger scale. Saudi Arabia and Israel both alone have interfered more than Russia. We interfered in Russian elections to prop up Yeltsin.

So despite these numerous bigger problems why do you laser focus on the least severe form of interference? Why would anyone care that Russians are doing online astroturf campaigns when astroturfing is the not only the norm, but much worse and more invasive forms of election influence are in practice by the united states today?

Russians are not going to switch votes or stuff ballot boxes. The Republicans already do that (and deny people the right to vote).

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