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Comrade Fakename posted:Hold up, hold up. Odd is effectively only 11 years old at the start of DS9?! He doesn’t remember anything before the Bajorans found him, so he’s only experienced eleven years of life. Jake Sisko is older than him! Pretty sure they changed it up a bit by the time it was on the show. The script for the pilot said he was found in 2337 which is 32 years prior to DS9. After Odo was found, he was studied for 7 years by Mora before Mora realized Odo was sentient. If we count this as Odo's "birth", he's probably 25 years of experience by the time DS9 started.
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Comrade Fakename posted:Hold up, hold up. Odd is effectively only 11 years old at the start of DS9?! He doesn’t remember anything before the Bajorans found him, so he’s only experienced eleven years of life. Jake Sisko is older than him! assigned grumpy old man at birth
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:Also I love that they come across an exact replica of Earth with the same continents and everything and no one really seems to give a poo poo about how or why it's there. That might be the first really, really dumb thing in trek ever. Other than that it's not really too bad an episode except for child actors. Comrade Fakename posted:Hold up, hold up. Odd is effectively only 11 years old at the start of DS9?! He doesn’t remember anything before the Bajorans found him, so he’s only experienced eleven years of life. Jake Sisko is older than him! Don't fix that.
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Hipster_Doofus posted:That might be the first really, really dumb thing in trek ever. It's based on real science, though I think accidentally. IF (big if) the universe is infinite, there must be an infinite number of exact duplicates of Earth because there are only a finite number of combinations for matter. You wouldn't just run across one tooling around the Milky Way, but they'd be out there.
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Lester Shy posted:I would be too. I saw this timeline the other day:
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Kibayasu posted:I don’t know if it’s just the “backer’s edition” copy but the Blu-ray of What We Left Behind I just got has a much better cover than the one you usually see. Instead of Behr doing the whole hand pose thing it’s a shot of Sisko’s baseball on his desk in front of his computer screen. The back of the insert is a not great but not terrible cartoon drawing of Sisko standing in front of his office window looking... contemplatively tired? Hard to say. In any case it’s a much better cover than I was expecting. My poster arrived today (shipped direct from Ira for some reason) and I really wish it was the Sisko word art poster thing they did instead of Ira’s dumbass beard in space. Or maybe it’s different, I can’t even be bothered to open it and check.  The doc itself was pretty disappointing and a lot of that was because of Ira.
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I feel Tuvok is being a little unfair about Kes's psychic powers, calling them "undisciplined". Hey rear end in a top hat, they're brand new to her. Her species hasn't had those powers for generations, of course she hasn't got the hang of them yet. Also I don't hate Neelix.
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Ethan Phillips is, I'm sure, an OK guy and that blunts some of the disdain I feel toward Neelix. A little.
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I kind of like his schtick of helping an uptight crew do things in a more efficient yet non-standard way that helps things feel more homey, like working with the hydroponic bay to make elaborate meals to save transporter energy. He's silly as a person, but he is the part of the ships ecosystem that helps people avoid getting their heads shoved so far up their asses that there is no going back. He's a good idea, but poorly written. I also kind of like when they come across new aliens and he's got the experience to be informative, like "Oh these guys can be assholes, but they love a good dance off...." Also, removing either half of B'elana's DNA would not turn her fully klingon or fully human. The DNA is a sequence of instructions that tell the body what to make. If the change were that drastic, it would take place over a very long time as cells dies out naturally but get replaced following the new instructions, so certainly she may eventually grow more or shed some of her forehead-plating, but very gradually if at all, and her teeth would not be affected at all. BioEnchanted fucked around with this message at 13:49 on Aug 3, 2019 |
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:8 episodes into a watch through of TOS and holy moly do the 1960's and Gene Roddenberry combine to make some cringe worthy scenes. A major premise of TOS is that Space Is Weird and literally ANYTHING can happen, something lost with later iterations.
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Astroman posted:A major premise of TOS is that Space Is Weird and literally ANYTHING can happen, something lost with later iterations. "Anything" usually meaning "planets that use existing sets and costumes owned by Paramount." After The War fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Aug 3, 2019 |
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Also gods that take the form of Earth’s myths.
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They really transferred a baby into Kira, huh. And apparently Bajoran women sneeze when they're pregnant. What.
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CptAwesome posted:They really transferred a baby into Kira, huh. And apparently Bajoran women sneeze when they're pregnant. What. The Kira's actress was pregnant in real-life, so that is why it happened.
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"The Kira is aggressive." "Adversarial."
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IShallRiseAgain posted:The Kira's actress was pregnant in real-life, so that is why it happened. And Siddig El Fadil was the father, which is why in some episode they throw in a "This is your fault" joke.
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Melting Odo from the season 4 finale was horrifying to say the least
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BioEnchanted posted:Also, removing either half of B'elana's DNA would not turn her fully klingon or fully human. The DNA is a sequence of instructions that tell the body what to make. If the change were that drastic, it would take place over a very long time as cells dies out naturally but get replaced following the new instructions, so certainly she may eventually grow more or shed some of her forehead-plating, but very gradually if at all, and her teeth would not be affected at all. If there's one thing Star Trek gets right, it sure ain't biology
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8one6 posted:And Siddig El Fadil was the father, which is why in some episode they throw in a "This is your fault" joke. Wasn't that after Nana Visitor had ended a relationship with Avery Brooks, which made the set pretty awkward for a while?
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Wasn't that after Nana Visitor had ended a relationship with Avery Brooks, which made the set pretty awkward for a while? That's the rumor I've heard but since I was 11 when DS9 was on I can't say if it's true or not.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Wasn't that after Nana Visitor had ended a relationship with Avery Brooks, which made the set pretty awkward for a while? I really hope this is a mistake cause Avery's been married to the same person since 1976.
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It is the known rumor.
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:Ethan Phillips is, I'm sure, an OK guy and that blunts some of the disdain I feel toward Neelix. A little. He's a good actor. If they told him to play it like an annoying creep, then by god he delivered. BioEnchanted posted:
It's TV DNA.
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Kibayasu posted:Also gods that take the form of Earth’s myths. "Actually, we find the One quite adequate." 
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Jetrel is a really good Neelix episode, but it gets very bonkers in the last 10 minutes.
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Wasn't that after Nana Visitor had ended a relationship with Avery Brooks, which made the set pretty awkward for a while? Big Emissary Energy
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I'm loving that in the season 1 Voyager finale, the Maquis crew all think that B'helana and Chakotay will have their backs but they just get "Do the loving work you nincompoops. We are all starfleet now, so deal with it and don't come bitching to us that you can't just do what you want anymore." Edit: OH NO THE CHEESE IS SICK AND NEEDS A DOCTOR! BioEnchanted fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Aug 3, 2019 |
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Binary Badger posted:
Post your dialog contest: Didn't you hear, Commander? We made orbit around Risa 10 minutes ago. (Riker would just use site-to-site transport)
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OK one more: Cheese nearly killed Voyager. The ship is clearly lactose intolerant.
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Thom12255 posted:https://twitter.com/johnnemann/status/1157075060672217088 Double post but I'm on mobile. Reminds me of Frakes saying he would have done a male/male kiss if standards had allowed it. But then a thought hit me...are Riker and Jadzia the most ardent, skilled, and lustful members of Starfleet? (I don't mean lustful like Bashir, who is just a horndog.) Can't believe I never saw the shipping possibilities there.
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Admiralty Flag posted:Double post but I'm on mobile. I bet Riker and Dax wouldn't even make the top ten on USS Party Ship
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Everybody knows Morn is the biggest party animal in the quadrant.
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DS9 is the horniest Trek, which is amazing considering Roddenberry had nothing to do with it.
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That's a cute thought but it can't possibly be true because Enterprise exists.
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Was just watching 'I, Borg' there, and Guinan talks with Hugh saying how the Borg wiped them out. Now, in another episode her species had deals with Q and could fight him as near/almost equals. So why could the Borg take them over in the first place, and why isn't the Borg going for Q and not lesser things like other mortals.
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The Borg are super efficient. They don't mess around, if they want you they'll take you and unless you've met them before you'll have no idea what to expect. Any borg that get taken out are immediately replaced, so Guinan's powers are probably of limited use if they are only useful against single targets. Q on the other hand is not a murderer but a trickster. someone plays with you enough, you have a chance to learn how to play back just as hard. Q has no intention of killing most of his toys, so he is relatively harmless, more of a nuisance. Also her abilities may be only good at counteracting magic like Q's abilities, so wouldn't work on the borg anyway.
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happyhippy posted:Was just watching 'I, Borg' there, and Guinan talks with Hugh saying how the Borg wiped them out. It's complicated and doesn't come up much because Goldberg only did 31 episodes as essentially a one-scene-per-episode guest character in most cases. But Guinan is at least 500 years old and is basically the Star Trek version of Gandalf, which is to say she has magical powers but maintains limitations on their use out of ethics/divine mandate, and most of her super power is Good Advice. 
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Sodomy Hussein posted:It's complicated and doesn't come up much because Goldberg only did 31 episodes as essentially a one-scene-per-episode guest character in most cases. But Guinan is at least 500 years old and is basically the Star Trek version of Gandalf, which is to say she has magical powers but maintains limitations on their use out of ethics/divine mandate, and most of her super power is Good Advice. Her Gandalfness is somewhat muted when we meet another member of her species who is an obsessed rear end in a top hat.
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