UKMT August 2019 - we (UK) should simply invade Ireland peacefully

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Comrade Fakename: Feb 13, 2012

Brooker�s sister-in-law is the fairly decent (and also my) Labour MP Rupa Huq, so that�s probably why he hasn�t talked publicly about Corbyn and so on.

And I only posted that video to encourage people to tier rank UK restaurants (and similar) and am disappointed no one went for the obvious bait. Personally I�d put Patty & Bun in the S tier, though I�m not sure if they�re outside of London.

E: The London bus route 38 runs from Clapton Pond and Victoria bus station.

Comrade Fakename fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Aug 5, 2019

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baka kaba: Jul 19, 2003; PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Pilchenstein posted:

Yeah, I'm not gonna slate them because they're clearly on the right side of that issue but it's just someone telling me things I already know while doing the occasional poo poo aside. It reminds me of that Stewart Lee line: "Was it funny? No but I agreed the gently caress out of it".

yeah totally, and it almost feels apologetic

like this is legit good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pz3syET3DY

better journalism than you'd get on the actual news, most of the jokes are like "haha I'm actually highlighting a bad thing that isn't really funny", and even though the audience is trying to get in on some chuckles in the beginning at completely inappropriate times, he just ignores it instead of stopping for the attention. Then he goes on about Cheerios but I guess that's just where we are, but we could do with more of this kind of uncompromisingly scathing stuff

Comrade Fakename posted:

Brooker’s sister-in-law is the fairly decent (and also my) Labour MP Rupa Huq, so that’s probably why he hasn’t talked publicly about Corbyn and so on.

ohhhh she's related to Konnie? That's cool

I had a moment where I hoped Konnie had become a raging socialist but her twitter feed is mostly about her new kids' book, lots of anti-racist retweets though so that's cool

# ? Aug 5, 2019 01:35

Tarnop: Nov 25, 2013; Pull me out

Pilchenstein posted:

Didn't he found RPS? He absolutely is a total loving oval office on twitter though, last time I saw him melting down he was exclusively hounding women who replied to him, like some kind of anti-glinner

Did he really do the budget section in PC Gamer though? I thought that was Jon Blyth? Edit: it was Walker, my apologies to Jon Blyth lol

Jon Blyth can still be found on the fun and funny Regular Features podcast

# ? Aug 5, 2019 02:00

WhatEvil: Jun 6, 2004; Can't get no luck.

baka kaba posted:

I had a moment where I hoped Konnie had become a raging socialist but her twitter feed is mostly about her new kids' book, lots of anti-racist retweets though so that's cool

I actually feel like Brooker and her are both savvy enough (particularly between the two of them) that they know any time a celeb goes in on politics, it ends badly for them, and it's probably a conscious decision not to.

Like I believe that Brooker and Huq are both decently left wing - he's been on the alternative election night broadcast a couple of times and dug into the Tories hard IIRC.

Also Connie Huq just owns in general. I love her so much.

# ? Aug 5, 2019 02:12

njsykora: Jan 23, 2012; Robots confuse squirrels.

Everyone who was of Blue Peter watching age in the mid-late 90s carries a crush on Connie Huq to this day, as well as memories of how seemingly hated she was by a lot of people (can't imagine why).

# ? Aug 5, 2019 02:15

Pilchenstein: May 17, 2012; So your plan is for half of us to die?; Hot Rope Guy

baka kaba posted:

yeah totally, and it almost feels apologetic

like this is legit good:

Yeah, that's still a bit twee at times but it's much more vicious and he's at least arguing a point that probably a significant portion of the audience don't agree with by default.

# ? Aug 5, 2019 02:19

WhatEvil: Jun 6, 2004; Can't get no luck.

Thing is though he can be funny if he wants to be... it's just that the American evening viewing audience doesn't want that.

Like seriously have you watched any of the "late night" shows? Colbert, Conan, Jimmy Fallon? It's all just the lamest kind of humour. All the 'jokes' are just stating really obvious stuff or saying something and then showing a picture of a photoshop or something for the punchline.

"Trump did a thing today, he's an idiot"
*HAHAHAHAHAHA*

# ? Aug 5, 2019 02:22

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Yank TV just weirds me out in general tbh. It's like a really enthusiastic version of skyrim dialogue, like the delivery is much more fluid but it has the same bizzare uncanniness.

# ? Aug 5, 2019 02:26

njsykora: Jan 23, 2012; Robots confuse squirrels.

The only good US late night host was Craig Ferguson and he left to do daytime gameshows and be replaced by James loving Corden.

# ? Aug 5, 2019 02:28

baka kaba: Jul 19, 2003; PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

while I'm posting brits doing US political comedy shows I have to shout out Official Thread Uncle Lembit Opik's space kingdom for anyone who hasn't seen it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtggIsY7qJE

(sorry Ms A)

# ? Aug 5, 2019 02:54

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

baka kaba posted:

while I'm posting brits doing US political comedy shows I have to shout out Official Thread Uncle Lembit Opik's space kingdom for anyone who hasn't seen it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtggIsY7qJE

(sorry Ms A)

If you think I'm not going to use nepotism to gain a position as Star Admiral then you better think again

# ? Aug 5, 2019 03:14

baka kaba: Jul 19, 2003; PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Ms Adequate posted:

If you think I'm not going to use nepotism to gain a position as Star Admiral then you better think again

But what game roms did you upload for the Asgardian people??

oh god my phone capitalised that :itshappening:

# ? Aug 5, 2019 04:15

His Divine Shadow: Aug 7, 2000; I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

Camrath posted:

PC Zone, ffs. PC Format was the dull one, PC Zone the fun one with Brooker et al.

Yes I take 90s games journalism v seriously.

In the 90s I used to read PC Format myself. I remember there was one reviewer at the time who caused a stir by giving the Star Trek TNG game (Unity iirc) a bad review.

# ? Aug 5, 2019 06:13

goddamnedtwisto: Dec 31, 2004; If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you; Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

Yank TV just weirds me out in general tbh. It's like a really enthusiastic version of skyrim dialogue, like the delivery is much more fluid but it has the same bizzare uncanniness.

Some of that is the writers room thing - because every line has been through 20 people it knocks all the individualism out of it.

# ? Aug 5, 2019 06:23

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

baka kaba posted:

But what game roms did you upload for the Asgardian people??

oh god my phone capitalised that :itshappening:

A buggy version of Fantasy World Dizzy.

# ? Aug 5, 2019 06:33

Rarity: Oct 21, 2010; ~*4 LIFE*~

Ms Adequate posted:

A buggy version of Fantasy World Dizzy.

No Treasure Island Dizzy? This will not stand!

# ? Aug 5, 2019 07:11

Ms Adequate: Oct 30, 2011; Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling

Asgardia most assuredly does not deserve the best, Rarity!

# ? Aug 5, 2019 07:40

BizarroAzrael: Apr 6, 2006; "That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

Tarnop posted:

Jon Blyth can still be found on the fun and funny Regular Features podcast

Donate to the Patreon and he might say something sexual about you!

# ? Aug 5, 2019 07:45

stev: Jan 22, 2013; Please be excited.

Or go to a live show and he might do something sexual at you. :dance:

# ? Aug 5, 2019 08:04

Sanford: Jun 30, 2007; ...and rarely post!

Glad to see a few Regular Features regulars in this thread; Jon "Log" Blyth is my oldest and most tenuous Internet aquaintance and I'd post a picture of him sucking scotch egg crumbs off my fingers if I could find it.

# ? Aug 5, 2019 08:07

Aphex-: Jan 29, 2006; Dinosaur Gum

I listened the gently caress out of regular features a few years ago but stopped for no apparent reason. I might have to start again now that my commute is longer. Jon Blyth is absolutely wonderful.

# ? Aug 5, 2019 08:16

BizarroAzrael: Apr 6, 2006; "That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

Steve2911 posted:

Or go to a live show and he might do something sexual at you.

They are doing the first one for a year on the back holiday.

Aphex- posted:

I listened the gently caress out of regular features a few years ago but stopped for no apparent reason. I might have to start again now that my commute is longer. Jon Blyth is absolutely wonderful.

Just say it, you hate Joe. No Crumbleberry cake for you!

# ? Aug 5, 2019 08:25

ShaneMacGowansTeeth: May 22, 2007; I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Well this doesn't make grim reading

https://twitter.com/sallygainsbury/status/1158041562993086464

# ? Aug 5, 2019 08:33

StarkingBarfish: Jun 25, 2006; Novus Ordo Seclorum

Turns out Noel Gallagher is not a fan of centrist takes:

Noel Gallagher posted:

�There�s only one loving thing worse than a fool who voted for Brexit, and that�s the rise of the cunts trying to get the vote overturned.�

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/aug/05/noel-gallagher-i-liked-my-mum-until-she-gave-birth-to-liam

# ? Aug 5, 2019 08:45

His Divine Shadow: Aug 7, 2000; I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

Self aware too

quote:

Noel is also slightly sheepish of the fact he didn�t bother voting. �Because, I thought, who would be stupid enough to change the way things are? But then I�m living in a massive house in Maida Vale [in north-west London]; why would I want to change the way things are?�

# ? Aug 5, 2019 08:52

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

StarkingBarfish posted:

Turns out Noel Gallagher is not a fan of centrist takes:

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/aug/05/noel-gallagher-i-liked-my-mum-until-she-gave-birth-to-liam

or Corbyn

quote:

�I saw him walk onstage to �Oooh, Jeremy Corbyn� and thought: �Really? For a start, your name�s Jeremy.� I don�t trust him. I think that the bare requirement for a politician, particularly a leader, is to be forward-looking. When I watch the news, I just think that, for these people, the big picture is communism, right? And that�s not British.�

# ? Aug 5, 2019 08:53

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

quote:

I don�t trust him. I think that the bare requirement for a politician, particularly a leader, is to be forward-looking. When I watch the news, I just think that, for these people, the big picture is communism, right? And that�s not British.�

They are not communists, though.

�They loving are! You�re not telling me the big picture is not to nationalise everything?

Known fans of nations, the communists.

# ? Aug 5, 2019 08:54

stev: Jan 22, 2013; Please be excited.

gently caress all Gallaghers.

# ? Aug 5, 2019 08:55

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Bit hibernophobic.

# ? Aug 5, 2019 08:56

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Guavanaut posted:

Known fans of nations, the communists.

When was everything nationalised? 1970s. When does Corbyn want us to return to? 1970s. But that means... communism's British after all???

# ? Aug 5, 2019 08:59

josh04: Oct 19, 2008; "THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"
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Noel Gallagher launches broad-spread attempt to annoy his way back into the news.

# ? Aug 5, 2019 09:05

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

"Communism isn't forward looking" I say, as I choose between the party that wants to return to the 1950s, the party that wants to return to the 1850s, the party that wants to return to the 2012 Olympic Opening Ceremony, or the party that wants to return to the Pleistocene.

# ? Aug 5, 2019 09:14

bump_fn: Apr 12, 2004; _{two of them}

in wales for half the day these accents are so good

# ? Aug 5, 2019 09:16

Sanitary Naptime: May 29, 2006; MIWK!

bump_fn posted:

in wales for half the day these accents are so good

I�m getting loads of calls forwarded to my office from another office in Cardiff today and it�s great, I loving love listening to a welsh accent.

# ? Aug 5, 2019 09:40

CGI Stardust: Nov 7, 2010; Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

welsh accent is top-tier imo, along with scouse

# ? Aug 5, 2019 09:41

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

UK accents form a spectrum, from incomprehensible shouting at cows and horses (white) to incomprehensible shouting at sheep and pigs (dark brown). In the middle region, communication occurs, mostly via posh booing noises.

e: Speaking of shouting at livestock, just got an advert for this. Definitely a fun colourful guide and not ominous.

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Aug 5, 2019

# ? Aug 5, 2019 09:52

Sanitary Naptime: May 29, 2006; MIWK!

CGI Stardust posted:

welsh accent is top-tier imo, along with scouse

Guavanaut posted:

UK accents form a spectrum, from incomprehensible shouting at cows and horses (white) to incomprehensible shouting at sheep and pigs (dark brown). In the middle region, communication occurs, mostly via posh booing noises.

e: Speaking of shouting at livestock, just got an advert for this. Definitely a fun colourful guide and not ominous.

�How to build a strong community� by ensuring the protection of ~~white~~ traditional values

# ? Aug 5, 2019 10:01

Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

WhatEvil posted:

Like I believe that Brooker and Huq are both decently left wing - he's been on the alternative election night broadcast a couple of times and dug into the Tories hard IIRC.

Brooker wrote in an article many years ago that he was basically genetically predisposed to loathing the Tories. Even if he had brain worms about Corbyn (I doubt he does) he would still vote against the Tories.

# ? Aug 5, 2019 10:04

Rarity: Oct 21, 2010; ~*4 LIFE*~

We have to be answerable to party membership, a bloo bloo bloo

The Guardian posted:

Trigger ballots prove an unwelcome distraction for under-fire Labour MPs
Many MPs fear they will be fighting to keep their seats rather than fighting the Tories

Last year�s Labour party conference. Some MPs have cancelled plans to attend this year�s event in Brighton to spend longer campaigning at home. Photograph: James McCauley/REX/Shutterstock
Autumn in Westminster is likely to be one of the most exhausting periods of British politics in recent history � late-night votes on Brexit preparations, attempts to thwart no deal, a potential confidence vote in a Boris Johnson administration and an ever-more likely snap general election. But for many Labour MPs, the first thing on their minds is something different � trigger ballots.

In interviews with the Guardian, most MPs said their main frustration was being distracted from preparing for a snap election. MPs said they had set up phone banks, organised multiple dinners and tea parties for local members and set up email campaigns solely targeted at their own members � rather than local voters.

�It has absolutely sucked the oxygen and life out of the Labour party and now we have a whole summer and autumn of introspection when we should be laying into the Tories,� one MP fumed.

Labour MPs have been notified over the past few weeks that votes on whether they must face potential deselection will take place in the next few months � starting with shadow cabinet ministers and frontbenchers from September.

The timing of the vote could mean several shadow cabinet ministers could address the party conference with their future as Labour MPs in doubt.

Some MPs have been notified their �trigger� meetings will take place the week after Labour conference, leading them to cancel plans to attend the event in Brighton in order to spend longer campaigning at home. It is unlikely the process will be completed in time for a snap election in the autumn � or even by May next year.

Labour MPs have always been subject to a trigger ballot, but rule changes agreed in September last year make it easier for an open selection to take place.

If an MP fails to get endorsements from at least two-thirds of the local member branches and two-thirds of local affiliates, such as trade unions, then a full eight- to 12-week selection process will take place � with candidates allowed to run against the sitting MP.

MPs named by their colleagues as likely to be in significant difficulty include areas where leftwing membership is strong, such as London constituencies held by Vicky Foxcroft and Helen Hayes, seats in Merseyside held by Louise Ellman and Maria and Angela Eagle, as well as places with large numbers of new members, such as Thangam Debbonaire�s seat in Bristol West and Peter Kyle�s seat in Hove.

�Thangam has a real problem, particularly given that it�s a massive local party which is very difficult for her to get to know everyone in there,� one MP said.

Other local factors could make a difference. Sources pointed to Birmingham Hall Green, held by Roger Godsiff, the MP who has angered many members by defending parents� rights to take their children out of LGBT-inclusive lessons.

Many MPs have been quietly getting organised. Labour�s deputy leader, Tom Watson, has run private sessions on surviving the deselection process, with training offered to about 160 MPs who are part of his �democratic socialist� Future Britain group, set up after the departure of seven Labour MPs in February.

Labour�s deputy leader, Tom Watson, has been running private training sessions for MPs on surviving the deselection process. Photograph: Luke Dray/Getty Images
�I do expect to be triggered so I�ve been doing a huge amount of work to compensate,� one Midlands MP said. �I suspect I could win a selection battle, but it�s money and time which could go on fighting to keep this a Labour seat when the Tories are targeting it hard.�

Many MPs said they had compiled detailed lists of members they believed could be counted on to back them. �I�ve got a good idea of the members I think can help me win, people I�ve persuaded to stay in the party, members who I�ve convinced to join, those who have contacted me about stopping antisemitism or campaigning on Brexit,� one MP said.

Another said they were spending time and money on �calls, text messages, emails, social events all over the constituency� and said colleagues were fundraising to cover their costs.

�This is only to try and avoid losing the trigger. The time and costs will go up massively if it proceeds to open selection � that means new leaflets, a website, more phone banks.�

The frustration applies to MPs in both safe and marginal seats, but many also said they felt the party was losing ground attacking the Conservatives because MPs� headspace was elsewhere. �I have almost 2,000 members who I could take to campaign elsewhere, but we are locked down in the constituency � during the most rightwing government of my lifetime,� one MP said.

Another in a hyper-marginal seat said they knew that any loss of a trigger ballot would be relentlessly used by a Tory opponent. �If I get triggered, then voters in my constituency are effectively being told that my own members may not have confidence in me � and all while an election is looming,� the MP said.

MPs said they were prepared to throw every effort for the next few months into holding their seats. �I don�t do things by halves, if I�m triggered I will be knocking on the door of every single member,� one MP said. �There is no way I would leave it up to chance.�

Within the party�s HQ, there is a lack of sympathy for MPs, especially for those who have only recently begun to desperately engage with members. One source close to Labour�s governing national executive committee said: �The MPs who will be in trouble are ones who have not engaged sufficiently with their members. Some unlucky ones might get triggered but then they should comfortably win their selections,� the source said.

�Member engagement is very important, local councillors have to do it constantly, and it�s something MPs should be doing all the time regardless.�

Momentum, the leftwing grassroots group that has passionately advocated the democratic importance of open selections, has launched a nationwide campaign to encourage members to begin deselection processes for Labour MPs, arguing it can open the door for more diverse, younger, working-class MPs.

The grassroots group said it would support rank-and-file members across the country to begin the process of challenging their sitting MP under Labour�s trigger ballot system.

Momentum�s national coordinator, Laura Parker, has argued the only chance Labour will have to defeat the Conservatives is with �a new generation of young, BAME, working-class leaders who will take on the political establishment and provide a genuine alternative�.

However, the group�s mass campaign on the issue has also sparked some member mix-ups. �Some members are demanding them in seats where they don�t even have Labour MPs and have to be reminded that first they need to help elect a Labour MP and then they can worry about deselecting them,� one party source said.

Should a number of MPs be deselected, party whips are said to be nervous about whether those disgruntled MPs would even stay in the party. A handful of MPs have said they would consider defecting to the Lib Dems or standing as independents.

�I might even be tempted to cause an early byelection and I think I could take a fair few members with me,� one MP said. �But I would never jump before I was pushed � for now I have to try and win this.�

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mediadave: Sep 8, 2011

Tesseraction posted:

Brooker wrote in an article many years ago that he was basically genetically predisposed to loathing the Tories. Even if he had brain worms about Corbyn (I doubt he does) he would still vote against the Tories.

Worth perhaps noting that Rupa Huq was caught up in the antisemitism thing, so unlikely he would join in on the hysteria on that.

# ? Aug 5, 2019 10:09

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