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thespaceinvader posted:Or, to put it another way: if I take £100 out of your bank account, but I give you back one in exchange, does that sound like a good loving exchange? Does that sound like something worthy even of bringing up in a positive sense? Sorry it seems I haven't communicated clearly as straw men are springing up everywhere. I don't think fossil fuel companies 'work' as someone posted or are fond of a 'good loving exchange'. Of course they need taken to task, however we need their money and likely their engineering and delivery capacity to prevent catastrophe faster than we can deliver the global reform necessary to take the wheel. If you think we can get out of the pocket of big oil fast enough to deliver the research and investment necessary to avert the climate crisis you are dreaming. By all means take the fight to them, but take their money and support wherever you can get it as well. We need it now, not when Corbyn takes America or whatever, now. If someone gets even richer as a result so what? There are potential key allies in already Government controlled companies. Hopefully they will turn into the examples other follow. Zalakwe fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Aug 7, 2019 |
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OwlFancier posted:I would suggest that given about 50% of his posting is "oh but socialism would hurt me because I don't want to have any sort of participation in anything" I'm going to suggest that he has quite a lot of trouble giving the faintest poo poo about anyone else. In fact it's worse, because you not only have to get on with people, you have to get on with the 'right' people, who seldom are. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Aug 7, 2019 |
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AceOfFlames posted:I read the third thread and couldn't help but think that if my company was a WSDE, I would have already been fired for being the weirdo who barely talks to anybody. There are plenty of normal private companies today where people get fired for being weird or asocial, what would being worker directed have to do with it?
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Their money is directly proportional to the problem you are trying to combat, you need them to not have any money any more because they're broke and/or dead.
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Hey I'm trying to log into Discord but it tells me to "claim this account" and when I do it tells me the email is already registered, so I'm off to hunt for whatever login is the right one.
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Coohoolin posted:Hey I'm trying to log into Discord but it tells me to "claim this account" and when I do it tells me the email is already registered, so I'm off to hunt for whatever login is the right one. Yeah reminder to people wanting to do UKMP, we're doing a practice call in the discord in about 5 minutes.
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 the fubpee... it's coming out of the walls https://twitter.com/jelly_pack/status/1159159731753234433?s=19
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This is exactly my suspicion. I was suspicious when more didn't leave with the TIGs. They want the energy of local party members to get them reelected and then do the dirty. This is why it is essential re-selections happen now. Ed: yes I see this tweet is a year old. But nonetheless I remain very suspicious. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Aug 7, 2019 |
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Jose posted:why does she love the EU so much has she ever actually said she's a middle class lib dem and brexit will mean an extra 20 mins in the airport in nice and make pesto more expensive op E: serious answer: she's part of a privileged demographic whose only interaction with the EU is the positive aspects: easy holidays, cheap imports, freedom of movement to study/work (as a beneficiary). If you've not been on the receiving end of austerity economics it's easy to look at the EU as a happy friends club designed to keep peace in Europe and facilitate cultural understanding rather than a extremely dodgy neoliberal trading bloc. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Aug 7, 2019 |
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ThomasPaine posted:
Ok, that's it, No Deal means No Deal.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Zalakwe posted:Sorry it seems I haven't communicated clearly as straw men are springing up everywhere. The issue is that they're powerful, and their power lies in their ability to produce fossil fuels and the world's dependence on them. So sure we need their power - but it's not in their interests to give it up, especially not to the extent where it brings about their own demise. So their "help" typically comes with a lot of caveats, including compromise around stuff that would hurt their business model That's what you have to watch out for - things that basically allow them to keep on as they are, that delay important changes or weaken restrictions, as well as stuff like greenwashing that hides all of this from the public perception. policy being tailored to pander to them (partly because people making policy are often connected to or at least lobbied by these companies, they just need the public cover to do it). If they're not making a net-positive contribution to the effort, and you're not willing to nationalise them to command their resources or at least impose serious regulation and controls, then it might be necessary to shut them out entirely
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ThomasPaine posted:
Jose posted:why does she love the EU so much has she ever actually said
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Guavanaut posted:Is this a Brexit Party psyop? Is this what the EU looks like to Express readers? Is this what the middle class does all day? Guav twitter account spotted: https://twitter.com/ABBAOfficiaI/status/1159187865072558080?s=20
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did you know that EU supergirl also wrote and illustrated a book? it's about as good as her singing    
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What the poo poo is going on there?WhatEvil posted:Guav twitter account spotted:
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Bardeh posted:did you know that EU supergirl also wrote and illustrated a book? it's about as good as her singing Bloody hell. 
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^at least I edited it out so people didn't have to witness it twiceBardeh posted:did you know that EU supergirl also wrote and illustrated a book? it's about as good as her singing imagine paying to copyright this poo poo imagine
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ThomasPaine posted:
Podcast theme tune idea (hear me out here) - Coohoolins mandolin cover of this with slightly altered lyrics, something like "I'm always on my phone/But you know I'm not alooone "
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No really, what the gently caress is going on here? So there's Theresa May (?) lying asleep and loving the EU while accidentally burning migration law rather than deliberately doing the hostile environment. May and Clegg (?) George Osborne (??) 70s Joe Biden (???) are in a fantasy world or something. All the poonds are everywhere and it's like Marmite you either love it or hate it. No ring or hands.  So Lib Dems are the party of Brexit and madness and only constipated Teddy Roosevelt can save Europe. 
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lol she sings like the tween popstars who overdo everything because they think "adult" and "proper" singing means sounding like mariah carey
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She sings like she has hiccups that only emerge at the end of each line. Still, she's made some pretty awesome success out of it and all the power to her really.
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She sold her soul to a Dirt Devil in exchange for musical talent.
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Guavanaut posted:In fact it's worse, because you not only have to get on with people, you have to get on with the 'right' people, who seldom are. Actually they are always right(wing) OP
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Bardeh posted:did you know that EU supergirl also wrote and illustrated a book? it's about as good as her singing wow.
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I like her pictures. They remind me of this music video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOlJekxPY7M Azza Bamboo fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Aug 7, 2019 |
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Maybe there's some key context on the missing pages as to why The Bull Moose is wearing a Britpop hat while cat Nick Clegg is pro-Brexit and Richard Blumenthal is a rabbit.
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Guavanaut posted:Maybe there's some key context on the missing pages as to why The Bull Moose is wearing a Britpop hat while cat Nick Clegg is pro-Brexit and Richard Blumenthal is a rabbit. I went to Teddy Roosevelt's house today, and these references are very disorienting
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How's he doing? I refuse to believe he's really dead.
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Remain Stache dude clearly not having much luck with partners, given the err.. relative disparity in muscle mass
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Guavanaut posted:How's he doing? I refuse to believe he's really dead. He wasn't home so I had to hang out with the skulls of all the animals he slaughtered for fun. But then, he also seemingly created all the natural parks and wildlife preservation in the USA, so it's impossible to say if he was a oval office or not
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Failed Imagineer posted:He wasn't home so I had to hang out with the skulls of all the animals he slaughtered for fun. But then, he also seemingly created all the natural parks and wildlife preservation in the USA, so it's impossible to say if he was a oval office or not Plus teddy bears are named after the one time he didn't kill something. I don't think he'd be caught dead in a Union Flag hat though, so that's one thing. WhatEvil posted:That's clearly Walter White. I don't know why he's a Fubpee now though.
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WhatEvil posted:Guav twitter account spotted: 
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Lol look at his wee hair popping out Lol top bantz https://imgur.com/gallery/dzmtrXV
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WhatEvil posted:Guav twitter account spotted: https://twitter.com/ABBAOfficiaI/status/1159110210243502085 https://twitter.com/ABBAOfficiaI/status/1159193459431022594 https://twitter.com/ABBAOfficiaI/status/1159201745421119489 Also pro retweet https://twitter.com/Maddie69274924/status/1085399988090425345
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