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mossyfisk posted:"until your next turn"? To help creatures with tap effects? 
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Jabor posted:It means if your opponent steals the creature several turns later, you don't have to remember whether it came into play via Chainer's ability or not. It's this. Remember that these are cards designed with multiplayer games in mind.
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:It's this. I think they were confused as to why it wasn’t just until EoT.
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Aug 8, 2019 15:59
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I was actually somewhat intrigued by the new Chainer until I realized it was only once per turn. Otherwise, this Madness deck looks like it would benefit from Patriarch's Bidding, but I'm sure Wizards is too cowardly to reprint it in a commander deck.
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Aug 8, 2019 16:03
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Katana Gomai posted:My point is that there shouldn't be "Commander" cards, just like there are no Draft, Standard or Pauper cards. It's lazy design. There absolutely are draft cards, unless you're running the 3 mana conditional bolts and 5 mana black removal sorceries and green common vanilla 7/7 beaters and poo poo in constructed. Very conservatively half the cards in every set are draft cards.
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Aug 8, 2019 16:04
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Arivia posted:Making Chainer red feels weird to me. His entire novel was about using black mana! I think it's supposed to be young Chainer, testing his abilities, before he was the Cabal's stalwart. So the red is more character flavor.
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Aug 8, 2019 16:18
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  Use it in a multiplayer game during the player to your left's turn to get another turn. If you can make copies indefinitely, you can permanently lock almost everyone out of the game.
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Aug 8, 2019 16:20
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LifeLynx posted:
It exiles itself on use.
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Aug 8, 2019 16:24
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LifeLynx posted:
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No Wave posted:You'd really only be locking the poor guy across from you out of the game. Lefty and righty get one turn for each of your two turns. If you make two copies a turn, you can lock two players out of the game. It’s hard to do, but the definition of a feel bad/npr card.
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Aug 8, 2019 16:27
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I much prefer this reading of the card https://twitter.com/CubeApril/status/1159486354956443649
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Aug 8, 2019 16:29
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Count Bleck posted:It exiles itself on use. This + Prototype Portal + Unwinding Clock (since it enters tapped). But I'm already doing this in my Memnarch deck with Ugin's Nexus to take infinite turns, which is way better.
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Cactrot posted:I much prefer this reading of the card There's already an UN card that does that, if you have cool friends.
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ItBreathes posted:There's already an UN card that does that, if you have cool friends. I do have cool friends, which is why I don't play commander.
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Aug 8, 2019 16:32
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I don't know if this the right thread but I had a loving amazing game last night. I was playing Temur Elementals vs. Orzhov Ajani deck. They got their Ajanis out and started pumping them, I got lucky and got Omnath and Reef out and was pumping both of them. He got the flooring B/W Happy creature that pumps with life gain and started loving me up. I got a 12/12 Krasis out only for it to be pacified, I got a 13/13 Krasis out the next round only for it to be pacified. I ended up milling myself out. Dude had 26 life. I ended up playing 2 Chandras and making GBS threads out 2 Elementals. I played basically every Elena card I had until I had only 4 Mana left. I played a new Omnath and did 22 points of damage, then Shock x2 to win. It was a loving awesome game.
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Aug 8, 2019 17:01
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 I called the gently caress out of a new Greven. Well deserved, his old card is booty.
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Aug 8, 2019 17:10
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New Greven card rocks.
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Aug 8, 2019 17:14
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LifeLynx posted:
A Uno Engine
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Aug 8, 2019 17:16
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 This seems pretty nuts in the right deck.
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Count Bleck posted:
I bet you the other card associated with Greven will be worth quite a bit more booty after this. You know...apart from the whole reserved list thing.
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Aug 8, 2019 17:25
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Greven would have a lot of fun with Necropotence too
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Kurtofan posted:A Uno Engine Timewalk is Skip/Reverse for 2-player game Mind Twist is Draw-4-Wild
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Tulul posted:
You know what this card is fun with? Pyromancer, Saheeli, and (especially) Monastery Mentor.
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Aug 8, 2019 17:41
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This set kinda sucks
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Sampatrick posted:This set kinda sucks Its EDH so.........
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Sampatrick posted:This set kinda sucks They're good decks for anyone who doesn't have a huge collection and needs staples and/or a decent base to start with as a build-up project deck. But for anyone who's as invested as anyone who posts in this thread, yeah, just buy the singles you want unless you need enough that buying the full deck would be cheaper/more convenient. On topic, it's absolutely the laziest thing in the world that the official decklist site doesn't have the new cards in it. "Note that our system won't be updated with the new cards, so all you'll have is a name to go on." Holy poo poo you are the web team, spend ten minutes to code the new cards onto the page, they're already on the card image gallery.
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Aug 8, 2019 18:17
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The thing is, the set sucks even if you want to buy singles. Look at Commander sets starting a few years ago and go back to the first one. Each of them has at least a few cards that are seen constantly in either competitive pods or casual pods. Last year's was a turd and so far this year's is barely any better. So much for making up for the year where they raised the prices and printed worse cards. I guess at least this year they "only" printed bad cards.
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Lol, Waste Not as a creature that costs 5 is an interesting choice.
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TheMaestroso posted:Lol, Waste Not as a creature that costs 5 is an interesting choice. Waste Not triggers off opponents discarding. Bone Miser triggers off its controller discarding. Seems pretty interesting with the new Chainer and Anje.
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Tulul posted:
I'm disappointed the Eldrazi token doesn't have Annihilator.
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Adlai Stevenson posted:Waste Not triggers off opponents discarding. Ah, now I remember why nobody played that card! Makes sense to make the better version of that effect a creature.
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Aug 8, 2019 19:54
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Waste Not is pretty fun with wheels.
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Aranan posted:Waste Not is pretty fun with wheels. Waste Not is a build around card, but it's a super spicy one. I'm a fan. It also only costs 1B and is harder to remove than a creature. Why would you ever play Bone Miser over it? It costs way more. Framboise fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Aug 8, 2019 |
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Framboise posted:Waste Not is a build around card, but it's a super spicy one. I'm a fan. Bone miser triggers off your own discards so its way easier to set up desired effects
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mandatory lesbian posted:Bone miser triggers off your own discards so its way easier to set up desired effects This is true but waste not affects all your opponents. Like Aranan said, it's fun with wheels for that reason-- it's huge value for a small enchantment but you need to build around it. Framboise fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Aug 8, 2019 |
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It's really hard to build around individual cards in commander that aren't you commander because it's 1 card out of 100 (Even if tutors can increase that number to 3 or 4 out of 100) and most people pack non creature permanent removal because of lack of sideboards, and are more likely to draw it because the games are much longer.
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Retromancer posted:It's really hard to build around individual cards in commander that aren't you commander because it's 1 card out of 100 (Even if tutors can increase that number to 3 or 4 out of 100) and most people pack non creature permanent removal because of lack of sideboards, and are more likely to draw it because the games are much longer. This is why you should always play Sidisi and just tutor whenever you want.
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You typically wouldn't build around an individual card. You can build around a strategy though, and packing your deck full of Wheels is not bad when cards like Waste Not, Notion Thief, new Narset, Smothering Tithe, etc exist. Granted, none of these work well at the same time but they're all great wheel enhancers. Combine that with graveyard recursion like Yawgmoth's Will/Mnemonic Betrayal and commanders like Kess and you have a ton of value to work with. Framboise fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Aug 8, 2019 |
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I would honestly play Waste Not AND Bone Miser with Wheels for maximum value.
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