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dmboogie
Oct 4, 2013

poe meater posted:

Do supports have different conversations depending on if it's pre or post skip?

they have an admirable amount of small differences, but the gist seems to always be the same

a lot of non-gated supports are very obviously written for the school portion, but, like, by the time you hit the skip you've had more than enough time to fill them out so it's not a big deal

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Wes Warhammer
Oct 19, 2012

:sueme:

Detective No. 27 posted:

I just realized that he was probably killed during the invasion. :smith:

He survived, don't worry. :unsmith:

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
Man so Ingrid randomly joined my party at the very start of a new month, after the chapter open cutscene. I was very happy! Then I spent money and wanted to undo it, so I loaded, and she didn't join the second time I tried. Or the fifth....poo poo. I want her now!!!

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Detective No. 27 posted:

I just realized that he was probably killed during the invasion. :smith:

Good news: he shows back up in every route except Edelgard's, where he is only give because he's loyal to the Knights of Seiros.

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Roëmænce is ælive!

Harrow posted:

Good news: he shows back up in every route except Edelgard's.

No, he shows back up in hers, but he talks about his twin brother who was a regular soldier who sided with the church

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

Man so Ingrid randomly joined my party at the very start of a new month, after the chapter open cutscene. I was very happy! Then I spent money and wanted to undo it, so I loaded, and she didn't join the second time I tried. Or the fifth....poo poo. I want her now!!!

Just ask her

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

Man so Ingrid randomly joined my party at the very start of a new month, after the chapter open cutscene. I was very happy! Then I spent money and wanted to undo it, so I loaded, and she didn't join the second time I tried. Or the fifth....poo poo. I want her now!!!

yeah a lot more stuff seems like it's chance than I might have guessed. like you can reload and have somebody agree to teatime once and then decline teatime the next time you load. or when i was trying to rush recruit ferdinand i found you can do multiple teatimes in a row

Blaziken386
Jun 27, 2013

I'm what the kids call: a big nerd

Super No Vacancy posted:

yeah a lot more stuff seems like it's chance than I might have guessed. like you can reload and have somebody agree to teatime once and then decline teatime the next time you load. or when i was trying to rush recruit ferdinand i found you can do multiple teatimes in a row
I didn't realize people could be unavailable for teatime until like, the final stretch of the game

ferdinand said no and I was like "but??? I still have activity points???? :confused:"

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Senerio posted:

No, he shows back up in hers, but he talks about his twin brother who was a regular soldier who sided with the church

Oh, I thought it was his twin brother who showed up! Shows what I know.

Detective No. 27
Jun 7, 2006

Minus Green posted:

He survived, don't worry. :unsmith:

Harrow posted:

Good news: he shows back up in every route except Edelgard's, where he is only give because he's loyal to the Knights of Seiros.

Awesome.

I gotta say, the way that the whole timeskip has been shielded away from the internet if you're not actively looking for spoilers has been great. The internet community has been really good with this game. I had no idea what would actually incite it until it happened. I just figured that the kids would finish the school year peacefully and some war would break out during the five year gap.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Detective No. 27 posted:

Awesome.

I gotta say, the way that the whole timeskip has been shielded away from the internet if you're not actively looking for spoilers has been great. The internet community has been really good with this game. I had no idea what would actually incite it until it happened. I just figured that the kids would finish the school year peacefully and some war would break out during the five year gap.

Yeah, the fact that there is a time skip was straight up part of the game's promotion, but the way it happens is pretty interesting and everything immediately after it is great.

Blaziken386
Jun 27, 2013

I'm what the kids call: a big nerd
Yeah, it was really obvious that you're gonna have to fight the other houses at some point, because otherwise why would they make you choose a side

but, like, even though I knew from spoilers that Edelgard says "gently caress the church", the way it came about was still a :monocle: moment

The Skeleton King
Jul 16, 2011

Right now undead are at the top of my shit list. Undead are complete fuckers. Those geists are fuckers. Necromancers are fuckers. Necrosavants are big time fuckers. Skeletons aren't too bad except when they bleed everyone in the company. Zombos are at least not too bad.


Just 3 chapters left in blue lion. Dimitri is my favorite FE protagonist now, the guy is a loving rollercoaster. Haven’t seen a protagonist get dragged through the mud so hard in a while.

TurnipFritter
Apr 21, 2010
10,000 POSTS ON TALKING TIME

The Skeleton King posted:

Just 3 chapters left in blue lion. Dimitri is my favorite FE protagonist now, the guy is a loving rollercoaster. Haven’t seen a protagonist get dragged through the mud so hard in a while.

I haven't gone Blue Lions yet, but Dimitri seems sort of like Leaf, or really any number of Fire Emblem protags who lose their family at the beginning of the game and spend the rest of the game getting revenge, except he's traded the wide eyed idealism of standard Fire Emblem protags for single minded fury.

Charlie Bobson
Dec 28, 2013
regarding the black eagle discussion like 13 pages ago

i feel like "edelgard is responsible for the death of my dad and also seems like she's strong buds with wizard nazis, gently caress her" and "she was doing the best she could while being held at gunpoint by wizard nazis and has admirable goals, shes cool" are both valid takes. she's ready and willing to kill the entire church and is cool with a lot of incidental deaths along the way, but the church is also pretty hosed up as an institution and is responsible for a lot of the conflict in Fodlan. but claude, dimitri, or byleth don't really have a clue about that poo poo so i dont think its unreasonable to kind of hate her a lil once she declares "i will eat all of you, and completely dismantle the belief system of 99% of the population. also i've tried to murder yall like 3 times in the past year."

Arkeus
Jul 21, 2013

Harrow posted:

Oh, I thought it was his twin brother who showed up! Shows what I know.

I'm unsure if it's him, his twin brother, or if he is just trolling.

Blaziken386 posted:

Yeah, it was really obvious that you're gonna have to fight the other houses at some point, because otherwise why would they make you choose a side

but, like, even though I knew from spoilers that Edelgard says "gently caress the church", the way it came about was still a :monocle: moment

If you get her C+ rank?, she tells you that she has the crest of flame, which makes it rather obvious.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Blaziken386 posted:

Yeah, it was really obvious that you're gonna have to fight the other houses at some point, because otherwise why would they make you choose a side

but, like, even though I knew from spoilers that Edelgard says "gently caress the church", the way it came about was still a :monocle: moment

Being able to side with Daenerys is awesome. Also you can date her and El and Byleth is best romance, even if the s rank is super understated compared to Dorotheas for example.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice

TurnipFritter posted:

I haven't gone Blue Lions yet, but Dimitri seems sort of like Leaf, or really any number of Fire Emblem protags who lose their family at the beginning of the game and spend the rest of the game getting revenge, except he's traded the wide eyed idealism of standard Fire Emblem protags for single minded fury.

Medium level spoilers for Dimitri's characterization:

My read on him is that he's mentally ill. He's literally hearing voices in the guise of his dead loved ones, yelling at him for not avenging them fast enough. If you S rank him he admits that the voices never went away, he just decided to not let them tell him what to do anymore. I don't know if his symptoms match perfectly with any real-life mental illness but that's my read. He also has a healthy dose of PTSD on top of that.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

Andrast posted:

Just ask her
It's a hard no, I'm nowhere close to the stats, just have B support.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

It's a hard no, I'm nowhere close to the stats, just have B support.

You need like a E+ or D flying to get her when you have B support

Jay Rust
Sep 27, 2011

What do I do with this Tactics Primer gift?

Terper
Jun 26, 2012


Jay Rust posted:

What do I do with this Tactics Primer gift?

It's Jeralt's gift to you!

HOTLANTA MAN
Jul 4, 2010

by Hand Knit
Lipstick Apathy

Detective No. 27 posted:

I just realized that he was probably killed during the invasion. :smith:

He's not, he shows up right after you retake the monastery

E: way late but i am happy that he'll always have nothing to report

Blaziken386
Jun 27, 2013

I'm what the kids call: a big nerd

Terper posted:

It's Jeralt's gift to you!
oh

:(

ROFL Octopus
Jun 20, 2014

LET ME EXPLAIN

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

It's a hard no, I'm nowhere close to the stats, just have B support.

Just train Flying with Seteth to like D or so and you should be able to get her.

I’d beeline Axes with her too if you can, dunno if it’s feasible outside of Blue Lions though.

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!

ROFL Octopus posted:

I’d beeline Axes with her too if you can, dunno if it’s feasible outside of Blue Lions though.

It's totally feasible to grab Ingrid in chapter 6 at level 11 (for a free Pegasus Knight promotion) and switch her to axe focus in time to get her ready for Wyvern Rider. You can send her through Pegasus–Brigand–Wyvern Rider (at C+ axes, C flying)–Falcon Knight very smoothly.

If you want, you can throw in D Armor for cheap to qualify for Armored Knight (without actually using the class) to get an early boost to 12 Def. D Armor costs 100 skill experience, so 4 weeks of (neutral, 24-point) study plus a single lesson from Byleth, or 3 weeks if she gets weeding duty.

This tactic works for a lot of squishy units, actually. My Ignatz gained 6 Def at level 11, and Claude and Petra gained 4.

Zoran fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Aug 8, 2019

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
I have a question about Jeralt:

he just died in my playthrough, and I wonder why did Edelgard have him killed? if she's talked to Byleth about it she'd have known he had reservations about the church and Rhea and probably could have recruited him to her cause once she had his son on her side. seems like poor planning, but maybe there's a reason that I just haven't gotten to in the plot yet

dmboogie
Oct 4, 2013

indigi posted:

I have a question about Jeralt:

he just died in my playthrough, and I wonder why did Edelgard have him killed? if she's talked to Byleth about it she'd have known he had reservations about the church and Rhea and probably could have recruited him to her cause once she had his son on her side. seems like poor planning, but maybe there's a reason that I just haven't gotten to in the plot yet

She didn't want him killed. If you have her fight Monica/whatever her name actually is, she's super pissed.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
[quote="indigi" post="497358594"]
I have a question about Jeralt:

It's explained.

Arkeus
Jul 21, 2013

Zoran posted:

It's totally feasible to grab Ingrid in chapter 6 at level 11 (for a free Pegasus Knight promotion) and switch her to axe focus in time to get her ready for Wyvern Rider. You can send her through Pegasus–Brigand–Wyvern Rider (at C+ axes, C flying)–Falcon Knight very smoothly.

If you want, you can throw in D Armor for cheap to qualify for Armored Knight (without actually using the class) to get an early boost to 12 Def. D Armor costs 100 skill experience, so 4 weeks of (neutral, 24-point) study plus a single lesson from Byleth, or 3 weeks if she gets weeding duty.

This tactic works for a lot of squishy units, actually. My Ignatz gained 6 Def at level 11, and Claude and Petra gained 4.

Yeah, using specific class base stat that are specifically high to raise defences work great, though I wouldn't recommend to be silly like me and make characters Warlocks/Bishop for that +5 res lol.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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re: Jeralt my question is why did the bad guys want him killed to the point where they had a contingency for if Byleth rewound time (furthermore that seems to indicate that they know Byleth can do time shenanigans but it never comes up again)

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Fojar38 posted:

re: Jeralt my question is why did the bad guys want him killed to the point where they had a contingency for if Byleth rewound time (furthermore that seems to indicate that they know Byleth can do time shenanigans but it never comes up again)

The kill was a spur of the moment thing and the contingency was to not give people a chance to dissect the corpse of the killer.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
Speaking of Byleth rewinding time I found it funny that in the BL route Byleth just stands there like a dipshit watching first Dimitri get stabbed, then Rodriguez get stabbed defending Dimitri, then Rodriguez bleed out. Like I get it, from a story-telling perspective something needed to happen to snap Dimitri out of his destructive spiral, but I wish they could have come up with something that didn't immediately make me go "Uh Byleth what the gently caress you could prevent this with one dragon pulse use. Particularly when he does that exact thing in another assassination attempt, even if it ultimately ends in failure.

Blaziken386
Jun 27, 2013

I'm what the kids call: a big nerd

Fojar38 posted:

re: Jeralt my question is why did the bad guys want him killed to the point where they had a contingency for if Byleth rewound time (furthermore that seems to indicate that they know Byleth can do time shenanigans but it never comes up again)
they didn't have a contingency for if she rewound time, AFAIK, no one knows you can do that. they just had one in case she got attacked. To them, it just looks like Byleth was really loving observant and reacted fast to Kronya whipping out the dagger.

e: honestly, I'm just annoyed that she didn't try Divine Pulsing a second time - by default you have three charges, so I'm wondering why she didn't go "okay, that didn't work" *shwoop* "HEY DAD, loving MOVE"

Gonna blame that on ol' Silent Protagonist Syndrome making it impossible to yell out

Blaziken386 fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Aug 8, 2019

ROFL Octopus
Jun 20, 2014

LET ME EXPLAIN

I really wish people would post spoilers in the spoiler thread.

I just hate these CIA blackout posts.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Feels good to just edge my lance stat high enough to poach Ashe at the last chance.

HOTLANTA MAN
Jul 4, 2010

by Hand Knit
Lipstick Apathy
I dont think ive ever used Manuela past her paralogue, i just make her Hanneman's adjutant, put them at A rank then she gets to ride the bench. Shame.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice

HOTLANTA MAN posted:

I dont think ive ever used Manuela past her paralogue, i just make her Hanneman's adjutant, put them at A rank then she gets to ride the bench. Shame.

Her stats suck but she learns warp and occasionally a warper is better than your tenth best combat unit

HOTLANTA MAN
Jul 4, 2010

by Hand Knit
Lipstick Apathy

cheetah7071 posted:

Her stats suck but she learns warp and occasionally a warper is better than your tenth best combat unit

Lysithea does too if you level her faith which is the biggest reason why i dont use Manuela tbh

I mean she seems made to use levin swords, but so is byleth

HOTLANTA MAN fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Aug 8, 2019

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Amppelix
Aug 6, 2010

Why would you waste levin swords on someone with a unique 1-2 range sword

with a much more easily acquired repair material, no less.

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