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Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

Well he did get a mere 73% of the vote in 2017 (majority 33,215).

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Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

marktheando posted:

From the replies on the green's tweet

https://twitter.com/fascinatorfun/status/1159938144831201282?s=20

Does't Corbs have like an absurdly huge majority

He's eternally on the verge of losing his seat even though he's consistently gotten a huge majority every time his seat is contested. Same with Dianne Abbot, John McDonald and any left wing MP who's lefty nonsense will get them thrown out by sensible, conservative Britain.

Paradoxically Sensible MP's like Nick Clegg and Danny Alexander are rewarded for their pragmatic and reasonable dedication to voting with the Tory whip and would never lose their seats, even though they did to complete outside no hopers.

And there's no chance of Conservative MP's losing their seats, especially if they're on the Cabinet, even though they're all on razor thin majorities and even Boris Johnson's seat is up for grabs.

Almost as if there's some, I dunno, internal bias that tells the media that everyone's secretly conservative and that left wing politics will be defeated easily that goes in direct contrast with reality.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
Johnson has a majority of around 5,000 and Labour gained in his constituency in 2017. Swinson has a similar majority and won her seat back off the SNP who took it from her in 2015. I'd think either or both of them are far more likely to lose their seats than Corbyn.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/juliamacfarlane/status/1160172238475337728

The Queen Strikes again.

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back
Epstein, blinded by the flashes from the paparazzi's cameras, crashes the Lolita Express into the island

ed: where were you on this day, the day Jeffrey Epstein "killed himself"?

Jeffrey has passed away. RIP u will live on forever. Cant believe it. I wanna run to u

CGI Stardust fucked around with this message at 14:15 on Aug 10, 2019

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

OwlFancier posted:

Didn't they do the rounds in his constituency after he won the leadership and he was really popular there?

Which I mean, you might expect from how long he's been an MP.

Not only that, but he is a very good constituency MP.
Persistant, dogged, determined... in one of my working capacities I (or rather my boss) was on the receiving end of Corbyn doing his 'dog with a bone' stuff! He was on the case constantly.
To say more would be to doxx myself.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
boy this is going to be fun if it happens

https://twitter.com/KennyFarq/status/1160085638949101568

https://twitter.com/callumjodwyer/status/1160121902393974784

such a lovely chap:

new upcoming wings party political broadcast, presumably posted:

Isn’t that the point though, I ask. This is all happening in Scotland and meanwhile here you are, living in this beautiful English city, Bathgate’s answer to Jane Austen, inciting division 400 miles away and profiting from it? “Well, no more than you are,” he replies. “I’ve never understood why this is an issue. How does it undermine the arguments? At the moment my position is I don’t want to live in the most gutless country in the world. I would cringe every day stepping out my front door and looking around thinking: ‘God, you people won’t even run your own affairs.’ This is where I live. This is where I built my life for 20 years before Wings. I’m not going to up sticks. Does that mean I have to shut up? Does it mean I’m not allowed an opinion? Somebody has to make the arguments that Wings makes. Somebody has to do what we do. And it looks like it’s me, because nobody else is doing it.”

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013


OwlFancier posted:

I can't believe kim jong un shot down jeffrey epstein's plane with a ZSU.

Uh, uh, uh.... I can't believe Heston Blumenthal killed and ate Boris Johnson.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
jfc they’re not even subtle in their conspiring

Rincewinds
Jul 30, 2014

MEAT IS MEAT

Wish the fucker had at least flipped first.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

Rincewinds posted:

Wish the fucker had at least flipped first.

they found his black books with names and pictures / video and it will all get totally buried lol

Total Meatlove
Jan 28, 2007

:japan:
Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;
Can’t wait to see Bond having to deliver a polonium necktie to a prison in Bond 25

Crab Battle
Jan 16, 2010

Haha! Yeah!

Was only a matter of time before something like this happened. Can't wait for all the high-level sex trafficking to be swept under the rug now the one bad man is dead.

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back
Had the pleasure of meeting Jeffrey Epstein at an island party once. He was surprisingly down to earth, and VERY funny

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

Never forget the time he got trolled by Pissflaps:
https://wingsoverscotland.com/a-remarkable-feat/

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Suitable news item for this thread.
No beans were harmed in this making of this news item.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/ian-watkins-lostprophets-phone-prison-16727554

quote:


Former Lostprophets frontman Ian Watkins has been found guilty of possessing a mobile phone while in prison.

The 42-year-old disgraced child sex offender from Pontypridd hid a mobile phone inside his anus so prison officers wouldn't find it and prevent him from seeing his mum, who was visiting from Wales.

The phone was found on Watkins in HMP Wakefield, West Yorkshire, where he is serving a sentence for sex offences.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
You don't even have to assume Epstein was murdered for this to be blatant shady bullshit, because if he wasn't, that means they didn't put the paedophile billionaire on basic suicide watch. Dude shouldn't have had anything to kill himself with.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
I need one of you good people to explain to me in very simple terms - as if to a baby - what exactly Chris Williamson did wrong. So many otherwise on point people are piling on him but looking at the actual stuff he's said I'm really not getting it. At worst he can be accused of bad optics + poor communication, but eh.

Yes, I know he's clearly an opportunist and has a less than amazing history with supporting PFI etc, but on this particular topic a whole lot of people seem to be losing it over something that's just invisible to me. Maybe that's privilege showing, I don't know, but I'd like to understand it.

E: here's one such thread - most of the people involved are generally solid take-havers from what I've seen.

https://twitter.com/Mc_Heckin_Duff/status/1160169704050352128?s=19

But Williamson is right here - though again perhaps communicating poorly. Class analysis is integral to socialism and issues of identity must be seen in the context of class relationships. Many of his critics seem to be arguing that there is some form of conceptual equivalence between class and identity groups, which is plainly wrong.

E2: see, this garbage is what I mean. It's just demonstrating a total misunderstanding of the basics of socialist theory. Marx would have a stroke if was still alive.

https://twitter.com/ArkadyB61/status/1160173323223015425?s=19

The whole CW debacle is really exposing some of the fault lines in the contemporary 'left'. I'm not certain it's right to outright attack either side here as both have a point (crude class reductionism is bad, so is misunderstanding the unique importance of class at the conceptual level) and that's just handing ammo to the right, but I really do feel like it's important to emphasise what class analysis and class consciousness actually is, and more to the point show how it actually complements intersectional struggle rather than sidelining it.

E3: tl:dr class is not an identity ffs lads

ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Aug 10, 2019

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/swearsayer/status/1160176212699996161?s=19

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012



Remember when “Unbelievable fury is the only rational human response to...” from Rev Stu would be followed up with “...a review of a Metal Slug game I disagree with on a fansite.” Better times.

Anyone got a copy of the article wrenched outside the paywall?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Williamson mostly just keeps opening his gob and putting his foot in it. Like he's consistently not good at communicating, even with a charitable interpretation. Which is not really a good thing for an MP?

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Darth Walrus posted:

So am I reading this right? Looks like the Greens, Lib Dems, and Plaid Cymru are merging into a single Remain party.

Apart from anything else, that's not what an electoral pact means.

Szmitten
Apr 26, 2008

Z the IVth posted:

If the Epstein thing ever gets close to convicting Prince Andrew he's going to mysteriously end up in the middle of a 6 vehicle pile up in the wilds of Norfolk.

You called it. Literally an hour/page before.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

I'm all in favour of the ultra rich being killed by the state, but yeah in this case it feels a little premature.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
can't believe Epstein managed to tie his hands behind his back then drown himself in his own toilet

RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!

ThomasPaine posted:

The whole CW debacle is really exposing some of the fault lines in the contemporary 'left'. I'm not certain it's right to outright attack either side here as both have a point (crude class reductionism is bad, so is misunderstanding the unique importance of class at the conceptual level) and that's just handing ammo to the right, but I really do feel like it's important to emphasise what class analysis and class consciousness actually is, and more to the point show how it actually complements intersectional struggle rather than sidelining it.

E3: tl:dr class is not an identity ffs lads

Problem is that class actually is an identity in as much as the social concepts of "working class" and "middle class" exist outside of the actual economic classes of workers and capitalists, hence why you have people thinking that Jess Phillips is a big loving working class hero for having an accent

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

Darth Walrus posted:

You don't even have to assume Epstein was murdered for this to be blatant shady bullshit, because if he wasn't, that means they didn't put the paedophile billionaire on basic suicide watch. Dude shouldn't have had anything to kill himself with.
Supposedly he was already on suicide watch following a previous "attempt".

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1160060754982313984

lol Epstein made Prince Andrew a trending topic on Twitter. I know the Media won't touch it but it's heartening to see that everyone knows why

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

RabidWeasel posted:

Problem is that class actually is an identity in as much as the social concepts of "working class" and "middle class" exist outside of the actual economic classes of workers and capitalists, hence why you have people thinking that Jess Phillips is a big loving working class hero for having an accent

This is actually a really good point, and I think is a major issue in the UK in particular. There's class in the Marxist sense, and there's class in the traditional British class system sense, and they're kind of related but also at the same time completely different. This leads to a lot of crossed wires. Just a shame to see good people twist themselves in knots as a result. We really need to be better at separating them conceptually.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Gonzo McFee posted:


lol Epstein made Prince Andrew a trending topic on Twitter. I know the Media won't touch it but it's heartening to see that everyone knows why

for anyone wondering just how absolutely certain it is that prince andrew hosed kids with epstein he hosted epstein's homecoming party after he was released from prison the first time. thats how close friends they were

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/Orwell_Fan/status/1160185253731995649?s=19

Edison was a dick
Apr 3, 2010

direct current :roboluv: only
Just had the news that my constituency has selected the good socialist immigrant workplace-unionising local momentum candidate over the blairite middle-class white woman SWERF candidate from the next county over who played dirty in the campaign to the point of being officially rebuked, got caught sharing anti-Semitic posts on Facebook and called Jeremy Corbyn a lexiter.

I'm looking forward to having an MP I can be proud to support.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Edison was a dick posted:

Just had the news that my constituency has selected the good socialist immigrant workplace-unionising local momentum candidate over the blairite middle-class white woman SWERF candidate from the next county over who played dirty in the campaign to the point of being officially rebuked, got caught sharing anti-Semitic posts on Facebook and called Jeremy Corbyn a lexiter.

I'm looking forward to having an MP I can be proud to support.

:unsmith:

I hope this kind of change is happening more widely than it feels like it is.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro



Wow, can't believe the mob affiliated copper wasn't able to save his life this time

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
https://twitter.com/swearsayer/status/1160176212699996161?s=21

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1160132880280039424?s=21

lol, Atlas's shoulders are getting sore.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro



loving Treasury can gently caress off. Austerity obsessed twats

forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Aug 10, 2019

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
lmao wtf is number 11

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

bump_fn posted:

lmao wtf is number 11

11 Downing Street. The Chancellor of the Exchequer's residence. The money house.

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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


bump_fn posted:

lmao wtf is number 11

The PM lives and works at Number 10 Downing Street. The Chancellor of the Exchequer lives and works at Number 11 Downing Street. That's it. (Except Boris is living in number 11 because it's bigger and he's a selfish prick)

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