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Cheers to all the (M) Banks aficionados for the advice/recommendarionsJunior G-man posted:Offa's Dyke trip report, day three These posts are really cool by the way
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Coohoolin posted:We were wondering why something like this hadn't already been launched, but the settlement scheme deadline is June 2021 and it's probably a pain to set up so I'm happy and very very relieved. AFAIK that deadline only applies if there's a deal, though I'm not entirely clear on that. Come to think of it so is everyone else.
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I always like the Alfasud example of a 'pre-industrial' culture butting straight up against a modern industrial business setting. In the 1970s the Italian government pushed Alfa Romeo (which it ultimately owned through several layers of state agencies) to build a brand new car factory outside Naples as part of the ongoing attempts to 'modernise' the South and close Italy's drastic North/South economic and social divide. Alfa designed a wholly new car for the new factory, appropriately named the Alfasud. Over 20,000 would-be employees for the new factory were interviewed and over 6000 were taken on. Some were from the (declining) brickfields of Campania (digression - most of these workers' ex-colleagues had been recruited by the London Brick Company which is why Bedford and Peterborough have big Italian communities) but the vast majority were farmers, and this meant that they and their families lived on a small mixed-use plot of land that they and their ancestors had worked since time immemorial. It was mostly a self-sufficient and subsistance-level life, with individual villages trading amongst the residents for goods and services as required, often in the form of labour ("I need to grind my flour on your millstones...I will till your fields for two days in exchange and bring you a cask of my wine.") and there was a long tradition of both short-term itinerant labour to boost the family funds as and when required and only working as much as was required to cover the family's costs. The idea of regimented factory labour with set tasks, work rate and hours and managerial oversight was wholly alien to many of these people. They saw their job at the Alfa plant in the same way they saw walking over to the next valley to spend a day clearing ditches - something they'd do if they needed the money and felt like working that day. Faced with wage labour (on generous rates), many workers would simply down tools at whatever point in the day they'd earned 'enough', and only work the first three days of the week. As was their norm, if there was work required on their farm they simply wouldn't go in to the factory - at best they'd follow their own protocol and send a family member in their place; a family member who was not an Alfa employee and had had no training. During the tomato harvest or wine making season as much as half the workforce simply wouldn't show up for days on end. Those that did show up were ripe for politicisation by the foremen, shop stewards and junior managers who had (to their great displeasure) been seconded from Turin to get things moving at the new factory. The harder management tried to carry out a one-factory overnight Industrial Revolution the more bitter the atmosphere became. Productivity and build quality was predictably dire.
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Private Speech posted:AFAIK that deadline only applies if there's a deal, though I'm not entirely clear on that. Yeah no one loving knows but at least now I have a helpline and free support I can phone up to help me prove my drat residency.
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:I saw Dillinger Escape Plan open Reading in 2002. The singer shat in a carrier bag and then threw it into the crowd, all before midday. Later on that day I ended up backstage in a hospitality tent watching Sid from Slipknot do a jungle DJ set. That's my Dillinger Escape Plan story I was also backstage at Reading 2002 watching Sid from Slipknot's DJ set. Small world...
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BalloonFish posted:Those that did show up were ripe for politicisation by the foremen, shop stewards and junior managers who had (to their great displeasure) been seconded from Turin to get things moving at the new factory. The harder management tried to carry out a one-factory overnight Industrial Revolution the more bitter the atmosphere became. Productivity and build quality was predictably dire. I love stories like this. Thank you for telling it.
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I was unfortunate enough to be sat on a train in front of two prime shitheads this afternoon who insisted on talking for the duration of the journey. They were racist, sexist, financially illiterate and lacking entirely in self-awareness. They started by talking about immigrants and one of them had a spiel about illegal Romanian immigrants and their apparently massively lucrative begging rings that mean even the lower-ranked members earn more than he does. (Oh, and the UK's full, apparently. And it's the fault of immigrants that there are no homes for anyone). This got the other one talking about illegal immigrants as well, and with no apparent trace of irony he moved from whining about them coming over and then not integrating into society, to complaining about his wife who was previously here illegally ("that's why I had to do all that paperwork"), who has now decided to call her child (his step-son) by an anglicised version of his name. These people are allowed to vote  And sort your coving and decking out as well, apparently
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Necrothatcher posted:I was also backstage at Reading 2002 watching Sid from Slipknot's DJ set. Small world... No loving way
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technology is the only moral good, actually, and pursuing it makes any moral ill acceptable.
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:No loving way Weird huh. I was friends with Spiritualized and they got me the tickets. My girlfriend was dead impressed.
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Ms Adequate posted:technology is the only moral good, actually, and pursuing it makes any moral ill acceptable. alright calm down Ms Pinker
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Coohoolin posted:The Scottish government have launched a support program for EU nationals needing help with the settlement scheme, including a phone number for free expert advice. I mean, OK, but this is literally something that already exists: https://www.gov.uk/settled-status-eu-citizens-families/applying-for-settled-status quote:Get help
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crispix posted:Angelos Epithemiou has aged like poo poo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2v7tB4bGaM
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/13/uk-british-nationality-hong-kong-citizens-tom-tugendhatquote:The UK should give Hong Kong citizens full UK nationality as a means of reassurance amid the current standoff with Beijing, the chair of the influential Commons foreign affairs committee has argued. Where’s that Onion headline “annoyingly a horrible person just made a good point” The UK should have given proper citizenship to any who wanted it
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Ms Adequate posted:technology is the only moral good, actually, and pursuing it makes any moral ill acceptable. 
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Boris johnson visiting a prison.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Boris johnson visiting a prison. "Crikey, I've had larger things up my arse back in Eton."
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On the topic of "economists are loving idiots", a article from The Economist about how the real world ignores all the fancy theories and models of economics
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OwlFancier posted:If none of you have read the fortress unvanquishable save for sacnoth by the way I do recommend it, it's That’s a hell of a trip
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:lol there's a literal actual riot happening in Hong Kong airport and, while rioters clash with police and pepper sprays gets everywhere, scores of commuters are milling about with their suitcases trying to check in and get to their gates It’s weird here. Every day is almost normal but the streets only have about 40% of the usual traffic and everyone’s kind of aware of being in that period where you’re waiting for something violent to kick off. My wife took a flight out from the airport on a business trip about 2 hours before the latest round started. Right now I’m just hoping the airport’s back to normal when she returns.
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Cerv posted:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/13/uk-british-nationality-hong-kong-citizens-tom-tugendhat Didn't Thatcher specifically remove the citizenship of the people of Hong Kong (and all other territories outside the main islands) the last time things escalated out of fear of non-whites moving to the UK? Which then incidentally sparked the Falklands war because Argentina saw the loss of citizenship as relinquishment of responsibility for the people on the island.
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1950's guys always look soooo uncomfortable in those comics. "After a hard day's work, just going to chill out at home in my business suit and formal shoes. Why yes, my shirt IS buttoned right up to the neck and my tie fitting snugly against my throat - really helps with this pipe I'm smoking!"
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Pistol_Pete posted:1950's guys always look soooo uncomfortable in those comics. "After a hard day's work, just going to chill out at home in my business suit and formal shoes. Why yes, my shirt IS buttoned right up to the neck and my tie fitting snugly against my throat - really helps with this pipe I'm smoking!" The 1950s version of "Athleisure" consisted of taking off the suit jacket.
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I definitely should have bought a motorbike instead of a car.
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OwlFancier posted:I definitely should have bought a motorbike instead of a car. Yes, yes you should.
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On the one hand I might die, on the other hand, I'd at least die cool and less poor.
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A motorbike has the advantage that you can generally cruise smugly through lanes of congested traffic. The disadvantage is that your average life expectancy decreases by about forty years.
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I did some research once into the comparative risks of using different kinds of transport, from walking to cycling to driving to taking different forms of public transport and the one thing I took away from it was: holy poo poo, NEVER ride a motorbike.
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I miss my motorbike. It's been in the shop waiting to get something around the spark plugs fixed. =( The car is okay, but it's not quite as fun.
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Angrymog posted:I miss my motorbike. It's been in the shop waiting to get something around the spark plugs fixed. =( I would imagine that maintenence for the bike is much cheaper than the car?
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I much prefer cars, even if you crash you can (now at least) usually walk away. Bikes on the other hand seem like screaming death traps... So where do I buy a bike? Out of interest?
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Pistol_Pete posted:1950's guys always look soooo uncomfortable in those comics. "After a hard day's work, just going to chill out at home in my business suit and formal shoes. Why yes, my shirt IS buttoned right up to the neck and my tie fitting snugly against my throat - really helps with this pipe I'm smoking!" Eschenique posted:Didn't Thatcher specifically remove the citizenship of the people of Hong Kong (and all other territories outside the main islands) the last time things escalated out of fear of non-whites moving to the UK? The other genius idea of building a settlement of 50,000 British Chinese people in Northern Ireland in 1980 would also probably have led to violence. 'Mainland Britain taking responsibility for their own poo poo' was apparently not an option.
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Reminder that you must take a course of CBT before you can ride a motorbike 
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Rarity posted:Reminder that you must take a course of CBT before you can ride a motorbike I will never not read this as cock-and-ball torture
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Vlex posted:I will never not read this as cock-and-ball torture Inevitably, same.
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Is the motorbike cbt course to prepare you for when you jump on your bike and land on your plums
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The DVLA were not impressed with the photo I sent them for my license I tell you what.
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OwlFancier posted:The DVLA were not impressed with the photo I sent them for my license I tell you what. You're supposed to make sure the hair is swept back. Like a passport photo.
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