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ronya posted:the thing about hard remainers is that they are single-issuers, so any amount of vacillating is acceptable if ultimately the single issue is delivered https://mobile.twitter.com/jwlbrace/status/1162298564208484352
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Miftan posted:.. Is she saying that Corbyn has been prime minister for 4 years? That's even more wild than saying he's made the life of every jew in Britain miserable. Could I ask something, why does this particular set of ideas depress me than all the others? Why is Anti-Semitism being used to attack someone who has, at the very least, been apologetic and kind about loving up so much more depressing than anything else flung at Corbyn?
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Josef bugman posted:Could I ask something, why does this particular set of ideas depress me than all the others? Why is Anti-Semitism being used to attack someone who has, at the very least, been apologetic and kind about loving up so much more depressing than anything else flung at Corbyn? Smear campaigns are nothing new. It's just the duration and persistence of this one that's unusual.
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Aug 16, 2019 12:06
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Josef bugman posted:Could I ask something, why does this particular set of ideas depress me than all the others? Why is Anti-Semitism being used to attack someone who has, at the very least, been apologetic and kind about loving up so much more depressing than anything else flung at Corbyn? Because its dishonest, insidious and awful, and working.
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Josef bugman posted:Could I ask something, why does this particular set of ideas depress me than all the others? Why is Anti-Semitism being used to attack someone who has, at the very least, been apologetic and kind about loving up so much more depressing than anything else flung at Corbyn? Disgust
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Aug 16, 2019 12:07
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Guavanaut posted:Except this galactic fubpee Crashing out with the fash to own
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crispix posted:Smear campaigns are nothing new. It's just the duration and persistence of this one that's unusual. Like if it was "Jeremy Corbyn smokes spice" or "Jeremy Corbyn watches weird hentai" then that'd be one thing, but years of "Corbyn's coming for you! *spooky holocaust noises*" immediately after their veiled antisemitism about Ed is gross as hell.
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abelwingnut posted:wait, what the hell has gone on this week? why are you all hopeful of corbyn becoming pm? and i see some vonc talk? Short version: https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1161751909788782594 Corbyn sent out a letter saying that he needs support to VONC the government. After the VONC, he will seek the confidence of the house, extend the Brexit deadline to prevent crashing out on No Deal, and immediately call a general election. Basically, poo poo or get off the pot. This puts the Libdems in the position of A) Support Corbyn and potentially allow a dreaded socialist into government, but potentially prevent a No Deal, or B) Don't support him, and enable a No Deal to happen by default, and be shredded by their voter base. And it's making GBS threads them up  "Hello, my name is Mr. Snrub".
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Josef bugman posted:Could I ask something, why does this particular set of ideas depress me than all the others? Why is Anti-Semitism being used to attack someone who has, at the very least, been apologetic and kind about loving up so much more depressing than anything else flung at Corbyn? What others have said, and what's more at least part of the point is to make people like you and I depressed. Attacking people where they're strong can kill the momentum of their base as they spend more and more time fending off bad-faith attacks.
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Aug 16, 2019 12:12
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Josef bugman posted:Could I ask something, why does this particular set of ideas depress me than all the others? Why is Anti-Semitism being used to attack someone who has, at the very least, been apologetic and kind about loving up so much more depressing than anything else flung at Corbyn? Most other criticism of Corbyn has at least a kernel of a point. You can see why people might be upset at his past approach to Brexit (even if it was good strategy) or are worried about his economic plans (even if they are ultimately good). They mostly come down to differences in politics and priorities, and that can be argued. But the anti-Semitism stuff is an outright lie. He has never done or said anything anti-Semitic, never been dismissive of it, and has been generally effective at reducing it in the party. It can't be argued against because there is no evidence to disprove, and when it's right-wing Jews arguing it you'll look like a right tit trying to say there is no bigotry problem even if you're right.
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Josef bugman posted:Could I ask something, why does this particular set of ideas depress me than all the others? Why is Anti-Semitism being used to attack someone who has, at the very least, been apologetic and kind about loving up so much more depressing than anything else flung at Corbyn? Because it's plainly in bad faith (or was before they convinced themselves otherwise) and it involves a level of wilful mischaracterisation, disrespect, and general unpleasantness that's rarely inflicted on others - and given how close the principles of democracy and anti racism are to Corbyn personally it has to cut deep. It's not just uncharitable and manipulative like the discourse between most political opponents, it's outright unjust and cruel on a very personal level. E: also it directly undermines actual progress against antisemitism, you'll notice that most of the people claiming Corbyn is Hitler take surprisingly little issue when one of their own, or someone more politically aligned (I.e. not socialist) says something extremely racist, while going absolute batshit that Corbyn clicked 'like' on a dumb anticapitalist Facebook post that on close inspection features some caricatures with slightly big noses as bankers which might not be a great look (years ago) I.e. https://twitter.com/RachelRileyRR/status/976131108898246657?s=19 ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 12:22 on Aug 16, 2019 |
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Aug 16, 2019 12:15
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Ok, I loving hate the tweetmans posting usually, but now she's gone hard brexiteer I am loving *delighted*. I'm gonna need a Brexit Party candidate announcement photoshopped up for her tia the mask slipping is amazing. Corbyn knows his game
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crispix posted:Digby Chicken Caesar has bottomed out Godammit I was going to make a Robert Webb joke 
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Aug 16, 2019 12:16
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Guavanaut posted:And also that it's making a bunch of actual Jewish people feel unsafe just for the performative outrage of a bunch of pricks. Especially because it means that actual dangerous antisemites and white supremacists aren't given any media attention as being terrible. It's the boy who cried wolf wrt antisemitism.
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Aug 16, 2019 12:16
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Josef bugman posted:Could I ask something, why does this particular set of ideas depress me than all the others? Why is Anti-Semitism being used to attack someone who has, at the very least, been apologetic and kind about loving up so much more depressing than anything else flung at Corbyn?
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Aug 16, 2019 12:20
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Tenebrais posted:Most other criticism of Corbyn has at least a kernel of a point. You can see why people might be upset at his past approach to Brexit (even if it was good strategy) or are worried about his economic plans (even if they are ultimately good). They mostly come down to differences in politics and priorities, and that can be argued. If you say the problem is small then you are a denier and part of the problem. If you say it's a big problem, then you are also part of the problem. There is no way of arguing this that doesn't put you in the wrong. It's a bit like, if you are poor / receiving benefits and support Labour it's 'the politics of envy' and if you're quite well-to-do and shop at Waitrose and support Labour, you're a 'champagne socialist'. You're doomed where ever you sit.
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Aug 16, 2019 12:22
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Guavanaut posted:Except this galactic fubpee https://twitter.com/JimVennercot/status/1162323345658040320
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Aug 16, 2019 12:23
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Aug 16, 2019 12:24
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bump_fn posted:
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Aug 16, 2019 12:26
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https://twitter.com/How_Upsetting/status/1162323200665169921 Twitter is amazing at getting people to trip over their own dicks.
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Jose posted:the only way to argue against the antisemitism stuff is to ask for examples rather than people who were formerly in the complaints department saying that complaints weren't being handled properly A) They normally come back with 'this can't be true or the papers wouldn't be saying blah blah blah" B) I hope nobody edits a picture of a prolapsed anus in there.
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oh and to clarify this is ON TOP OF the £400/year immgiration health surcharge
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bump_fn posted:
I feel your pain, comrade.
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Josef bugman posted:Could I ask something, why does this particular set of ideas depress me than all the others? Why is Anti-Semitism being used to attack someone who has, at the very least, been apologetic and kind about loving up so much more depressing than anything else flung at Corbyn? Other stuff was tried- the "czech spy" and "he's in the 'ra" were pushed really hard a few years back- the AS stuff could always be pushed more as any hint of anti-semitism within labour is instantly pointed to as evidence of the massive conspiracy within labour whereas the first two were always reliant entirely on older bullshit. Plus, as a labour member I don't really give two fucks about the first two. It's interesting to compare to the treatment of ed milliband- who was simultaneously painted as an antisemite for recognising the plight of Palestinians while getting viciously dog whistled by the press with "the guy who can't even eat a bacon sandwich" and "he had a marxist bolshevik dad who hated britain look at his crooked nose" etc.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Judging by FBPE twitter it seems worryingly to make just enough sense for melts to latch on to it. Fuhbpee twitter has always been mostly irrelevant, and with this latest series of meltdowns they're making themselves completely irrelevant, hth.
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My big concern is all the anti semitism poo poo is going to not just embolden existing racists but also frankly make normal, decent people so loving angry about the lying and screaming that they’ll develop an antipathy towards Jews as a result. There’s a Norman Finkelstein interview out there where he states those dangers- that in effect if this bullshit gets in the way of a Corbyn government then a lot of people are going to start believing in a ‘Jewish conspiracy’ against him- and be entirely right about it. Hell, I’ve spent my entire life around Jewish people, worked professionally with the CST to organise protection of synagogues and schools.. gently caress it, a former president of the board of deputies is effectively an honorary uncle to me and super close to my parents.. and I’ve caught myself thinking poo poo that shames me as a result of the constant loving lying and bad faith attacks. For people to whom Jewish people are even more of an ‘other’, how many of them will think those thoughts and not call themselves out on it? It’s a hosed up, disgusting situation. And the fact that some Jewish people are actually believing the lies and being terrified by the non existent bogeyman is sickening. This poo poo is genuinely hurting people outside of the political sphere.
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bump_fn posted:oh and to clarify this is ON TOP OF the £400/year immgiration health surcharge owned lol
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Aug 16, 2019 12:32
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Jose posted:owned lol its cool cause they absolutely know they have me stuck cause the other option is going back to the usa lol
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StarkingBarfish posted:Ok, I loving hate the tweetmans posting usually, but now she's gone hard brexiteer I am loving *delighted*. I'm gonna need a Brexit Party candidate announcement photoshopped up for her tia  [e]: gently caress. Put Tweetman. Oh well
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Aug 16, 2019 12:33
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Please someone reply to her tweet with this, I don't want to get banned because I absolutely must see the carnage of her feed when Corbyn becomes PM
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Failed Imagineer posted:Excited to vote for BXP candidate Guy Incognito Why on earth would you put the referendum result for the constituency on there if it’s below 50%? “Hello, here’s the Brexit Party’s new candidate, and he’s going to lose!”
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ThomasPaine posted:Please someone reply to her tweet with this, I don't want to get banned because I absolutely must see the carnage of her feed when Corbyn becomes PM ok done
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Aug 16, 2019 12:42
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ThomasPaine posted:Please someone reply to her tweet with this, I don't want to get banned because I absolutely must see the carnage of her feed when Corbyn becomes PM Done
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Aug 16, 2019 12:44
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Comrade Fakename posted:Why on earth would you put the referendum result for the constituency on there if it’s below 50%? “Hello, here’s the Brexit Party’s new candidate, and he’s going to lose!”
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Aug 16, 2019 12:53
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Pesky Splinter posted:
Amazing, it's perfect as-is Jose posted:ok done Tarnop posted:Done 
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Pesky Splinter posted:
lol They sent a poet.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Mentally, gammons can spin it as 30% BXP, 30% LAB, 30% CON, which makes BXP seem like a major party compared to the other two. Plus they are vaguely aware that there are weird things to do with politics that can mean the majority doesn't win. I mean, sure, it’s possible that they could get in through some political chicanery, but a 32% Leave vote is obviously bad news for the Brexit party, and it is bizarre that they would advertise it.
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