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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:I have learned just this moment that my dad has, last week, made a spaghetti bolognese with mashed prawns instead of beef that's the way jamie oliver's sardinian street sweeper makes it e- crustacean tax 
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:John McDonnell just invited me out for an Indian I hope he's surprisingly down to earth, and VERY funny
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Aug 16, 2019 18:55
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baka kaba posted:that's the way jamie oliver's sardinian street sweeper makes it https://twitter.com/UnusualVideos/status/1138350999448371200?s=20
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Aug 16, 2019 18:56
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Barry Foster posted:I hope he's surprisingly down to earth, and VERY funny Is this a death threat?
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Aug 16, 2019 18:58
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:I have learned just this moment that my dad has, last week, made a spaghetti bolognese with mashed prawns instead of beef Because I didn't really care that much Then they replaced beef with prawns - and there was no one left to barf with me.
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Aug 16, 2019 18:59
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I really hope someone ran some image classifier AI on this and piped the results into text-to-speech because I want to see that on everything
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Is this a death threat? I didn't say anything about getting in the sea now did i
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There's probably crabs in the sea. And they touch john mcdonnel and say "socialism"
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Aug 16, 2019 19:06
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My Italian friend tells me that spaghetti putanesca is sexist, but when I asked what I can call it she just ranted about veganism but it's my absolute go-to can't-be-arsed-to-go-to-the-shops dinner so now I don't know what to do, poo poo's delicious 
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Aug 16, 2019 19:08
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I have a sudden urge to make spaghetti Bolognese but with sausagemeat instead of ground beef, teaspoon of lard, chopped fried bacon, fried mushrooms and tomatoes, some chopped up black pud, all in a baked bean tomato sauce. Spaghetti fullinglese. e: the spaghetti is deep fried too
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Borrovan posted:My Italian friend tells me that spaghetti putanesca is sexist, but when I asked what I can call it she just ranted about veganism but it's my absolute go-to can't-be-arsed-to-go-to-the-shops dinner so now I don't know what to do, poo poo's delicious I mean it's literally "whore's spaghetti" but that is, unfortunately, what everyone I know calls it. Perhaps whatever the italian for sex worker is.
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I just want to slap these people and just say oh my god give over ffs https://twitter.com/HeidiBachram/status/1161966132624072704?s=19
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Borrovan posted:My Italian friend tells me that spaghetti putanesca is sexist, but when I asked what I can call it she just ranted about veganism but it's my absolute go-to can't-be-arsed-to-go-to-the-shops dinner so now I don't know what to do, poo poo's delicious Your Italian friend is repeating an urban legend - puttanesca doesn’t refer to prostitutes, and it’s not sexist. It’s from the way Italians use the word ‘puttana’ like the French use ‘merde’ or we use ‘poo poo’. As in pasta puttanesca is one where you just throw in whatever poo poo is to hand.
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His palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy There's vomit on his sweater already, whore's spaghetti
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Borrovan posted:My Italian friend tells me that spaghetti putanesca is sexist, but when I asked what I can call it she just ranted about veganism but it's my absolute go-to can't-be-arsed-to-go-to-the-shops dinner so now I don't know what to do, poo poo's delicious Ooh, she wouldn't like the way I make it, then.
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Barry Foster posted:I hope he's surprisingly down to earth, and VERY funny Death threats are a bannable offence sir
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Aug 16, 2019 19:22
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Also Fahrenheit 11/9 is on Netflix if you fancy reliving how Hilary fixed the primary and then absolutely hosed it and how they're going to do the same thing again with dying brain Biden.
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Brexiteers in 2016: If we vote to stay in the EU then Turkey will invade Britain! Reality in 2019: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-49368217 quote:Turkey's military pension fund has reached a tentative deal to buy British Steel out of insolvency.
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Lol I somehow didn't realise that limmy only said that about people who've died. I dumb In that case I hope he's got his head in the clouds and doesn't make you laugh once
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ThomasPaine posted:I just want to slap these people and just say oh my god give over ffs At this point it's hard to know who's being performative, and who's genuinely scared by all the stuff they keep hearing. Making Jewish people feel threatened is absolutely part of this whole push to remove Corbyn (the "X% of Jewish people believe Labour is institutionally antisemitic" stat is the one that's used all the time), it's fearmongering but aimed at making a minority feel threatened as leverage Throw in the way Jews are made the focus of all this hostile factional arguing, and the way some (allegedly) Jewish voices are indistinguishable from far right trolling (some of the attacks on Jewish leftists and fantasizing about the horrors Jews will face sound downright gleeful) and it's not really surprising if a lot of people suddenly feel real loving uncomfortable in this country. Who knows if these tweeters in particular are genuinely feeling it, but that kind of thing is the human cost of all this, especially in times when the drat nazis are back
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Offa's Dyke trip report day 6 (last day) Walking 8/10: despite being pelted with rain for most or the day, Knighton to Montgomery was an amazing hoof, with long stretches besides the Dyke itself which has lots of old oak trees and wildflowers. The 1000m up on the day left me with some screaming calves, but still lovely. The only downside is that muddy footpath + sheep poo =extremely slippy, especially on the downhill. Must've landed on my arse 5 times. Sogginess 6.5/10: Despite light showers in the morning and persistent, full on rain in the afternoon, there was no insane downpour. Pants are drying on the radiator and stinking up the room. View from a hay barn where we hid for some food.  Overall, you should definitely go and experience this. Amazing pubs, cool countryside and very nice people. Plus there were like 3 others doing this, so you get lot of time to yourself. A*.
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ThomasPaine posted:I just want to slap these people and just say oh my god give over ffs I heard Jeremy's already put the order in for the Star of Davids
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baka kaba posted:At this point it's hard to know who's being performative, and who's genuinely scared by all the stuff they keep hearing. Making Jewish people feel threatened is absolutely part of this whole push to remove Corbyn (the "X% of Jewish people believe Labour is institutionally antisemitic" stat is the one that's used all the time), it's fearmongering but aimed at making a minority feel threatened as leverage https://twitter.com/HeidiBachram/status/1161997482693468167 "Labour aren't antisemitic" "But I feel that they are" I mean I know that's how reality works but it's still loving dumb. Also:  "we" OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Aug 16, 2019 |
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baka kaba posted:At this point it's hard to know who's being performative, and who's genuinely scared by all the stuff they keep hearing. Making Jewish people feel threatened is absolutely part of this whole push to remove Corbyn (the "X% of Jewish people believe Labour is institutionally antisemitic" stat is the one that's used all the time), it's fearmongering but aimed at making a minority feel threatened as leverage They've successfully exploited a bug in contemporary handling of social justice issues. If a sizable portion of a group says they're worried about something, outsiders can't just say they're wrong. So someone has decided that the easiest way to make Corbyn antisemitic is to try to make Jewish groups legitimately fearful of him. Stirring up group fear itself is hardly new, but this seems to be specifically playing on the "whites can't tell PoC what is or isn't racist" idea, because it's a weak point for the left that the right doesn't have to play fair on.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:I have learned just this moment that my dad has, last week, made a spaghetti bolognese with mashed prawns instead of beef you're hardly one to talk on matters of spaghetti bolognese purity 
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https://twitter.com/HeidiBachram/status/1162419734031294465 Hate to be picking on this one lady, but could someone explain how to read this properly please? It feels like the "punching up" thing she's referring to is that Jewish people have historically often ended up in somewhat privileged but insecure positions (merchants etc.), and that a form of antisemitism is targeting people in those privileged positions even if they're not Jewish? Is that about right? So when she's talking about "The unique element of left antisemitism is that it's often masked in other codes." that's basically saying that anti-capitalism (or whatever passes for it in Labour) serves, or can serve at least, as a shield for antisemitism?
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Here's the centrist galaxy brain position on socialism is: socialism requires redistribution of wealth, some wealthy people are Jewish, socialism is going to take money away from Jews, socialism is antisemitic.
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CGI Stardust posted:Hate to be picking on this one lady, but could someone explain how to read this properly please? That does appear to be what she's saying yes, which is starting to sound more like "FYGM and if you disagree it's because you hate Jews" Wachter posted:Here's the centrist galaxy brain position on socialism is: socialism requires redistribution of wealth, some wealthy people are Jewish, socialism is going to take money away from Jews, socialism is antisemitic. Wow this was a way better way of putting it than I did
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OwlFancier posted:https://twitter.com/HeidiBachram/status/1161997482693468167 I have the same amount of sympathy for these people as they did when British citizens were being deported "back" to the Caribbean because they happened to be black absolutely loving zero
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Julio Cruz posted:I have the same amount of sympathy for these people as they did when British citizens were being deported "back" to the Caribbean because they happened to be black How do you know thats what they felt then?
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OwlFancier posted:https://twitter.com/HeidiBachram/status/1161997482693468167 it's not just how reality works, it's specifically how this whole particular issue works like what this is literally about isn't even specific incidents - it's about internal Labour processes, and the culture within the party and among the members. The vast majority of the country have absolutely no experience with that whatsoever, all they know about what's going on in the Labour party is what they're being constantly told in the media and all over any social media that touches on politics. All that polls like "do you believe the Labour party has an issue with antisemitism" really tell you is how effectively that message has been spread, because otherwise most people wouldn't really have a clue either way (which you see in the results for other parties when they're compared) but at the same time the whole antisemitism controversy itself is its own social issue now - I bet most Jews feel more personally affected by seeing this stuff every day, seeing people arguing and accusing each other and slinging slurs and fearmongering around, feeling othered and forced into a political identity, than they do by whatever's happening internally in the Labour party. It's self-sustaining and becomes a real, tangible issue, totally separate from the original story and whether it had any merit
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NotJustANumber99 posted:How do you know thats what they felt then? how can we know anything when you think about it
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Gonzo McFee posted:Also Fahrenheit 11/9 is on Netflix if you fancy reliving how Hilary fixed the primary and then absolutely hosed it and how they're going to do the same thing again with dying brain Biden. Take that somewhere else, I left that thread for a reason
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NotJustANumber99 posted:How do you know thats what they felt then? apparently you haven't realised this but Twitter has this function where you can go look at tweets people have made in the past
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CGI Stardust posted:It feels like the "punching up" thing she's referring to is that Jewish people have historically often ended up in somewhat privileged but insecure positions (merchants etc.), and that a form of antisemitism is targeting people in those privileged positions even if they're not Jewish? Is that about right? Tesseraction posted:how can we know anything when you think about it The left has to assume a degree of good faith in group grievances, and this has been weaponized in two ways, literal Nazis using idpol like Generation Identity, and people trying to make Jewish groups scared of Corbyn.
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Julio Cruz posted:apparently you haven't realised this but Twitter has this function where you can go look at tweets people have made in the past I could barely understand what was going on on twitter before and now theyve changed it. She in some way made it clear in a previous tweet that she had no sympathy for the windrush deportees? Well OK then... I mean without having seen it linked or whatever I struggle to understand how she could do that but OK. She also doesn't represent everyone that has expressed a fear of antisemitism in the labour party of course.
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Guavanaut posted:That's why it's spectacularly gross over and above the other accusations of Corbyn. Yeah - it's interesting looking at how they're handling it in the US, where everyone seems to be far more used to accusations of antisemitism being used as a political weapon - it seems like there's way more (public) pushback from leftist Jews, and maybe just people in general are more comfortable calling it out Here it feels like nobody really cared about antisemitism until very recently, whenever incidents happened they always seemed to be forgotten almost immediately. Now it's suddenly a huge social concern, a disease that society needs to fight in every place it rears its head, and leftists naturally go "yeah, good, gently caress racism" so criticising what's happening is unnatural and there isn't really a precedent for it. It feels like a whole new narrative, whereas Americans have this landscape pretty well mapped out by now so calling stuff out doesn't really risk putting them in a bad place, and they don't have to resort to problematic defensive behaviour either Like it feels like we're relying on Jewish leftists to fight this battle, and that looks exhausting. Basically the target of all the worst people really flexing their "I'm allowed to say it" antisemitism muscles
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Awful CompSloth posted:Take that somewhere else, I left that thread for a reason Because you don't like admitting Bernie would have won? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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CGI Stardust posted:https://twitter.com/HeidiBachram/status/1162419734031294465 It gets worse. When the (extremely polite because he knows the room is full of eggshells) person who she's talking to asks if she has evidence of institutional racism in the Labour party, she links him this article https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/07/labour-antisemitism-investigation I've read it three times now and I feel like a compiler trying to resolve a circular reference. Am I going mad, or is this evidence "complaints of antisemitism were made and the response was to deny that it's institutional, which is what an *antisemitic institution* would do"
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