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Tesseraction posted:how can we know anything when you think about it She blocked me for liking your tweet  e: Oh my god I sniped myself, is there a greater internet faux-pas? 
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Tarnop posted:It gets worse. When the (extremely polite because he knows the room is full of eggshells) person who she's talking to asks if she has evidence of institutional racism in the Labour party, she links him this article You're correct about it being a circular reference, and that's the point. It's not meant to be in good faith, it's meant to look like a refutation to anyone casually seeing the interaction from the sidelines. They see her provide a link, you responding with "that doesn't say what you claim it does" and she can go "read it more closely" and you're the one who looks defensive. It's part of the Alt-Right Playbook - Never Play Defence https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmVkJvieaOA
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Aug 16, 2019 20:44
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Can somebody make a browser extension that automatically blocks anybody who replies to a Jeremy Corbyn tweet? https://twitter.com/EdSteph95483581/status/1162332731918954496?s=20 This one made me laugh though. "Oh no, Landlords, stop! Please don't sell your property!!"
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Aug 16, 2019 20:47
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I live in fear of having my life ruined by the Board of Deputies because in Civ 4 I never adopted Judaism as my state religion  It was only because I didn't like the little tune that played every time it spread in one of my cities. It was too loud, it did my head in.
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Wachter posted:Here's the centrist galaxy brain position on socialism is: socialism requires redistribution of wealth, some wealthy people are Jewish, socialism is going to take money away from Jews, socialism is antisemitic. RabidWeasel posted:That does appear to be what she's saying yes, which is starting to sound more like "FYGM and if you disagree it's because you hate Jews" That's the conclusion I was trying to avoid coming to, but there doesn't seem to be any other interpretation that makes sense. Like, what else do the left target? Racism? Sexism? Transphobia? None of those work in context. But then if Jewish people in the UK tend to be wealthy Tories (http://www.brin.ac.uk/economic-inequality-and-religion/ for the household wealth by religion c.2010; recent voting 84% Con), then any kind of social-democratic or socialist project at all is antisemitic to people who think like this, because it could negatively impact a decent chunk of Jewish people, and "The 'punching up' dynamic of Jew-hatred comes to the fore." Left antisemitism becomes the left's ideological base, and if you can't see it, that's because it's too well hidden. And you can't claim that antisemitism isn't the root of left politics, because denying it is antisemitism. Impossible to get out of. Not that there aren't antisemites on the left, but still. What a mess. Tarnop posted:I've read it three times now and I feel like a compiler trying to resolve a circular reference. Am I going mad, or is this evidence "complaints of antisemitism were made and the response was to deny that it's institutional, which is what an *antisemitic institution* would do" I wonder what the reaction would be if the EHRC says something like "there have been problems with antisemitism in the Labour party for decades, but the present leadership has taken the first steps to resolve it". Reject the EHRC as an institution?
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Aug 16, 2019 20:48
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https://twitter.com/demarionunn/status/1162440295952396294?s=20
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Aug 16, 2019 20:56
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Tarnop posted:She blocked me for liking your tweet She blocked me for asking what the gently caress she thought was actually going to happen. Given Israel embraced Nationalism I get the feeling a lot of Jews just decided that it was the Socialism part that was the problem.
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Aug 16, 2019 20:59
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this is not actually about anything specific but I have to admit I'm not a big fan of this thread's regular focus of finding random people on twitter with bad takes and egging on each other to reply and talking about our replies and how great they are I think I just want people to stop touching the poop so much? I think that's the point I'm trying to make
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Aug 16, 2019 21:06
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She's not even Jewish, she's like one step removed from that eli valley comic about meghan mc cain.
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Aug 16, 2019 21:06
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Angepain posted:this is not actually about anything specific but I have to admit I'm not a big fan of this thread's regular focus of finding random people on twitter with bad takes and egging on each other to reply and talking about our replies and how great they are I don't actually use Twitter for anything other than cute animal pics and stupid meme videos so this is like my daily ration of bad opinion poop touching
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Aug 16, 2019 21:10
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Angepain posted:this is not actually about anything specific but I have to admit I'm not a big fan of this thread's regular focus of finding random people on twitter with bad takes and egging on each other to reply and talking about our replies and how great they are yeah it sucks
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Aug 16, 2019 21:16
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https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/uk-rape-survivors-face-digital-strip-searches-and-other-deterrents-to-justice/quote:New Home Office data has revealed that a mere 1.5 percent of rapes reported to police in England and Wales led to a charge or summons between April 2018 and March 2019, down from nearly 14 percent three years earlier. And an analysis released July 31 of rapes reported in London in April 2016 found that 6 percent made it to trial and only 3 percent resulted in conviction. This is despite a dramatic increase in the number of rape allegations reported to police during the same period.
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Aug 16, 2019 21:19
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Angepain posted:this is not actually about anything specific but I have to admit I'm not a big fan of this thread's regular focus of finding random people on twitter with bad takes and egging on each other to reply and talking about our replies and how great they are Web 2.0, especially the twitters, are more like this:  Better believe in poop touching Angepain, you're in one! 
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Aug 16, 2019 21:19
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Touch the poop comrades. Theres no reward in heaven for clean hands.
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Aug 16, 2019 21:19
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My reply to her was, and I quote, "Can you provide an example of Labour policy that could be construed as antisemitic?" and she blocked me. 
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Aug 16, 2019 21:21
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:My reply to her was, and I quote, "Can you provide an example of Labour policy that could be construed as antisemitic?" and she blocked me. My god, we have an anti-semitic abuser in our midst!
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Aug 16, 2019 21:27
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People are assuming the Corbyn is mega Hitler people are arguing in bad faith, but if you genuinely believe that anti-zionism is anti-semitism, then Corbyn is obviously a huge anti-semite.
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Aug 16, 2019 21:29
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crispix posted:I live in fear of having my life ruined by the Board of Deputies because in Civ 4 I never adopted Judaism as my state religion So much for the tolerant left 
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Aug 16, 2019 21:32
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CGI Stardust posted:https://twitter.com/HeidiBachram/status/1162419734031294465 Hasn't she just conflated being Jewish with being in control of society? I thought that was an anti-semitic stereotype. IHRA posted:Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.
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Aug 16, 2019 21:33
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A surprising number of people keep doing that trying to conflate leftism with antisemitism and it's kind of funny 
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Aug 16, 2019 21:44
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I think I may have posted this/this guy before but it's one of the guys from The Mash report and every Friday he does this with the weekly Farm Foods flyer and it has me in stitches: https://twitter.com/GreigARJohnson/status/1139459887539376128?s=20 (Thread) WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Aug 16, 2019 |
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Aug 16, 2019 21:48
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I'm not saying that they control society, but they do own a disproportionate amount of the world's weahhhhhh almost got me there lefties.
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Aug 16, 2019 21:49
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Guavanaut posted:I'm not saying that they control society, but they do own a disproportionate amount of the world's weahhhhhh almost got me there lefties. Another thing about left ideology being taken to be inherently antisemitic - it gets hard to claim that anti-capitalism wasn't influenced by antisemitism; all they have to do is ask what the founders of various 19thC left-wing movements thought about Jews, and suddenly things get a bit unpleasant and well, technically... which never looks good. WhatEvil posted:I think I may have posted this/this guy before but it's one of the guys from The Mash report and every Friday he does this with the weekly Farm Foods flyer and it has me in stitches:
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Aug 16, 2019 22:05
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I would get hosed up on space mince
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Aug 16, 2019 22:07
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WhatEvil posted:I think I may have posted this/this guy before but it's one of the guys from The Mash report and every Friday he does this with the weekly Farm Foods flyer and it has me in stitches: This is good use of Twitter, and also a good break from the poop touching
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Aug 16, 2019 22:08
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CGI Stardust posted:Another thing about left ideology being taken to be inherently antisemitic - it gets hard to claim that anti-capitalism wasn't influenced by antisemitism; all they have to do is ask what the founders of various 19thC left-wing movements thought about Jews, and suddenly things get a bit unpleasant and well, technically... which never looks good. Like antisemitism was so ingrained that everything from aesthetics to zoology would be antisemitic by that metric.
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Aug 16, 2019 22:09
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crispix posted:I live in fear of having my life ruined by the Board of Deputies because in Civ 4 I never adopted Judaism as my state religion Uh but going HinJewism is one of the most pro strats in Civ IV so worse than being an anti-semite you're anti-gitting-gud Jose posted:https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/uk-rape-survivors-face-digital-strip-searches-and-other-deterrents-to-justice/ *In incredibly Roosh voice* So 98.5% of rape accusations are FALSE!!
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Aug 16, 2019 22:10
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StarkingBarfish posted:I would get hosed up on space mince Hell yeah space mince
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Ms Adequate posted:HinJewism
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Guavanaut posted:Yeah, but ask what the founders of various 19thC [literally anything] movements thought about Jews. True! Doesn't stop it being potentially effective as rhetoric though - the other fields have had advancements and restructuring, but these people call themselves Marxists and communists etc etc. Anyway, as far as I've seen, no-one's taken the argument to that point, and this is all a bit hypothetical, so I'll shut up
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Aug 16, 2019 22:20
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crispy jalapeno space mince sounds like it'd make a loving awesome chili
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Aug 16, 2019 22:33
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Julio Cruz posted:crispy jalapeno space mince sounds like it'd make a loving awesome chili otoh it's what I call my toilet performance after a particularly heavy night on the tiles
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Aug 16, 2019 23:10
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Tesseraction posted:otoh it's what I call my toilet performance after a particularly heavy night on the tiles Why is it crispy
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marktheando posted:People are assuming the Corbyn is mega Hitler people are arguing in bad faith, but if you genuinely believe that anti-zionism is anti-semitism, then Corbyn is obviously a huge anti-semite. She came back with the opinion that the actual people of Irsael are pretty baffled by expansion into the West Bank and disagree with it. Contrast this with the ideology every time she speaks to anyone official about divine rights, any attempt to remove Israelis from occupied land as ethnic cleansing and a wilful conflation between 'maybe you could back up a little' and 'all Jews must vacate the middle east.' Now I have read one (1) book and a few versions of the wikipedia page on the subject, so am far from informed. But the conclusion the book comes to, and an option that a lot of Israeli people support is falling back to the boundaries agreed before the 1948 war, since the majority of that land was legally purchased. But again, you can't even approach this topic because of that wilful conflation between anti expansionism and antisemitism. The only way is to bang out long posts like this which are too in depth for idiots to read. I mean when an explanation has a required reading list it's always going to lose out to short simple statements like 'corbyn is pro palestine which is antisemitic.'
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Aug 16, 2019 23:15
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Tarnop posted:Why is it crispy
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Aug 16, 2019 23:17
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making GBS threads into a deep fat fryer is really more of an extreme sport.
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Aug 16, 2019 23:18
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I could also take the complaints of antisemitism much more seriously if they weren't echoed by so many centrist milquetoast "allies" who'd John Woo dive to the right if someone threatened to take away their Amazon Prime account
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I wanted to watch Peterloo the movie on the bicentennial, on a recommendation from a friend, but it's only on Amazon Prime, which I don't have.
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Aug 16, 2019 23:54
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Guavanaut posted:I wanted to watch Peterloo the movie on the bicentennial, on a recommendation from a friend, but it's only on Amazon Prime, which I don't have.
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Guavanaut posted:I wanted to watch Peterloo the movie on the bicentennial, on a recommendation from a friend, but it's only on Amazon Prime, which I don't have. pretty sure you can sign up with a dummy email account to get a month free or yeah just pirate it, it's not as if Jeff Bezos is going to notice the £6.99 he's not getting
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