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TremorX
Jan 19, 2001

All Hail Big Hairy Mike


If their doctors told them to eat less meat, they'd poo poo on the dinner table and roll around in it

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angerbot
Mar 23, 2004

plob
I mean, Larouchites are still around.

InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018

Pissy Bitch stan
They constructed an entire conspiracy to shelter themselves from blame, they'll never give it up because facing reality is too hard.

In less than six months Q will have been a Deep State agent working to make them look ridiculous and against trump.

Because reality is hard and nothing is ever their fault.

Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



Lipstick Apathy

angerbeet posted:

I mean, Larouchites are still around.

I just listened tot he Dollop on him. I remember in college during the Iraq War I'd get tons of pamphlets of nonsense, but didn't realize how much actual influence he had if only briefly, in the 80s.

TremorX
Jan 19, 2001

All Hail Big Hairy Mike

angerbeet posted:

I mean, Larouchites are still around.

I've never heard of this before, so I checked Wikipedia.

Wikipedia posted:

The [LaRouche] movement promotes a revival of classical art and a greater commitment to science; advocates the development of major economic infrastructure projects on a global scale; and calls for a reform of the world financial system to encourage investment in the physical economy and suppress financial speculation.

Well that doesn't seem so b--

Wikipedia posted:

Scientific pitch. Argues in favor of what they call "Verdi tuning" in classical music, in which A=432 Hz, as opposed to the common practice today of tuning to A=440 Hz.

That'd oddly specific, but ok this all seems pretty benign--

The FBI posted:

A violence-oriented organization of 'revolutionary socialists' with a membership of nearly 1,000 located in chapters in some 50 cities ... involved in fights, beatings, using drugs, kidnappings, brainwashings, and at least one shooting. They are reported to be armed, to have received defensive training such as karate, and to attend cadre schools and training schools to learn military tactics.

How do you go from wanting "a revival of classical art and a greater commitment to science" to learning karate? Are they going to roundhouse people until we make A 432hz?

Chip Berlet and Matthew N. Lyons posted:

Though often dismissed as a bizarre political cult, the LaRouche organization and its various front groups are a fascist movement whose pronouncements echo elements of Nazi ideology. Beginning in the 1970s, the LaRouchites combined populist antielitism with attacks on leftists, environmentalists, feminists, gay men and lesbians, and organized labor. They advocated a dictatorship in which a 'humanist' elite would rule on behalf of industrial capitalists. They developed an idiosyncratic, coded variation on the Illuminati Freemason and Jewish banker conspiracy theories. Their views, though exotic, were internally consistent and rooted in right-wing populist traditions.

:staredog:

Wikipedia posted:

[F]ollowers picketed the courthouse, chanted "Weld is a fag", distributed leaflets accusing Weld of involvement in drug dealing, and "sang a jingle advocating that he be hanged in public".

LaRouche allegedly has called Kissinger a "human being", a "traitor", a British or Soviet agent and a "Nazi", and has linked him to the murder of Aldo Moro.

There's something awfully familiar about all of this.

Wikipedia posted:

In the summer of 2009, LaRouche followers came under criticism from both Democrats and Republicans for comparing President Barack Obama to Hitler. Media figures as politically diverse as Rush loving Limbaugh and Jon Stewart criticized the comparison.

:drat:

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Limbaugh couldn't believe someone would compare the dastard Obama to his personal hero

predicto
Jul 22, 2004

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON
LaRouchies are obsessed with the Queen of England and think that she is secretly a Jew (Rothschild of course) and personally controls the entire world behind the scenes. They are like David Dees without the artistic talent.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

How can someone so right about Kissinger be so wrong about everything else?

Spins
Feb 26, 2016

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

InsertPotPun posted:

They constructed an entire conspiracy to shelter themselves from blame, they'll never give it up because facing reality is too hard.

In less than six months Q will have been a Deep State agent working to make them look ridiculous and against trump.

Because reality is hard and nothing is ever their fault.

Ha
It's already happening. I ran across Godlike Productions, a shockingly big conspiracy theory website looking for Qraziness and that place deserves a thread of its own, its Qanon cubed but for EVERYTHING. :aaaaa:

I can't even follow this post lol :downsgun:

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Prester Jane
Nov 4, 2008

by Hand Knit

Spins posted:

Ha
It's already happening. I ran across Godlike Productions, a shockingly big conspiracy theory website looking for Qraziness and that place deserves a thread of its own, its Qanon cubed but for EVERYTHING. :aaaaa:

I can't even follow this post lol :downsgun:



Hilariously Godlikeproductions formally banned discussion of either the Web Bot or the creator of the Web Bot a decade ago- because said creator of web Bot repeatedly convincing a significant portion of the forum that Doomsday was just around the corner. (It caused a torrent of drama beyond even what the owners of GLP were willing to tolerate.)

If you post the name of the Web bot dude on godlikeproductions your account is autobanned.

Parakeet vs. Phone
Nov 6, 2009
I believe Godlike Productions is also a weird case of no one really talking to each other, so it's mostly a million separate conspiracy theories all bashing against one another.

And sadly I get that post. They're just saying that Q is what you'd call "controlled opposition." Set up a fake prophet to capture all the brilliant people who can see the truth. It's fun that we're already seeing the disinformation theories start. Historically it's a great way to throw out former heroes once their theories are disproved or fall out of favor.

fishception
Feb 20, 2011

~carrier has arrived~
Oven Wrangler

90s Cringe Rock
Nov 29, 2006
:gay:
No ring.

Cool Dad
Jun 15, 2007

It is always Friday night, motherfuckers


So it's metal plating on the sides, but it's hatching out of an egg or something on the hood? I feel like this schizophrenic car decoration lacks a consistent design.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

TremorX posted:

I've never heard of this before, so I checked Wikipedia.


Well that doesn't seem so b--


That'd oddly specific, but ok this all seems pretty benign--


How do you go from wanting "a revival of classical art and a greater commitment to science" to learning karate? Are they going to roundhouse people until we make A 432hz?


:staredog:


There's something awfully familiar about all of this.


:drat:

I used to follow Wikipedia internal politics around 2004/2005 and the LaRouchites were trying to control all of his articles and that was my first real exposure.

Corsair Pool Boy
Dec 17, 2004
College Slice

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK posted:

I used to follow Wikipedia internal politics around 2004/2005 and the LaRouchites were trying to control all of his articles and that was my first real exposure.

I grew up a town over from the Larouchite complex in Virginia, AMA

E: don't actually ama because I don't know a ton but they were always in front of the DMV soliciting for signatures or asking for money at stoplights when I was growing up

ShuckyDucky
Jun 19, 2008

Quack Quack
I spit my freaking lemonade out when I saw this retweeted on my favorite Q Followers feed (Praying Medic)

https://twitter.com/McNaughtonArt/status/1163831145542193153

SatansOnion
Dec 12, 2011

ShuckyDucky posted:

I spit my freaking lemonade out when I saw this retweeted on my favorite Q Followers feed (Praying Medic)

https://twitter.com/McNaughtonArt/status/1163831145542193153

no ring? No masterpiece :colbert:

Delthalaz
Mar 5, 2003






Slippery Tilde
I remember when Larouchites were passing out pamphlets about how Bush was Hitler back in the 2000s. I talked to them for a bit before seeing their very serious plan to build a mega high speed railroad across the Bering Sea and realized they were probably part of some cult.

Is Mcnaughton a Q guy?

fishception
Feb 20, 2011

~carrier has arrived~
Oven Wrangler

ShuckyDucky posted:

I spit my freaking lemonade out when I saw this retweeted on my favorite Q Followers feed (Praying Medic)

https://twitter.com/McNaughtonArt/status/1163831145542193153

ShuckyDucky
Jun 19, 2008

Quack Quack

oof

drat

well played, but drat....

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story
https://twitter.com/TrueAnonPod/status/1163856810958176256

tpink
Feb 18, 2013

Melman
https://twitter.com/pattymo/status/1164028024330891265?s=20

Actually saw people I know IRL posting this stuff on Instagram today (who are very far in age from being boomers) and was irrationally angry. How does anyone still fall for this nonsense?

Great Metal Jesus
Jun 11, 2007

Got no use for psychiatry
I can talk to the voices
in my head for free
Mood swings like an axe
Into those around me
My tongue is a double agent

Delthalaz posted:

I remember when Larouchites were passing out pamphlets about how Bush was Hitler back in the 2000s. I talked to them for a bit before seeing their very serious plan to build a mega high speed railroad across the Bering Sea and realized they were probably part of some cult.

I had pretty much the same experience in 2003 when I was at the local community college. They think Bush is Hitler, I think Bush is Hitler, let's talk! Then I went to their website which was mostly about how members of the cult movement live in communal spaces and are only allowed to listen to German classical music and also we should build 50 nuclear power plants in California and just pipe the energy all across the country. I also remember arguing with one of them about how LaRouche was going to be the Democratic presidential candidate despite the fact that the primaries were already over and Kerry had won.

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?

tpink posted:

https://twitter.com/pattymo/status/1164028024330891265?s=20

Actually saw people I know IRL posting this stuff on Instagram today (who are very far in age from being boomers) and was irrationally angry. How does anyone still fall for this nonsense?

Lmao I love the shoddy editing. Some dude must have taken one of those images from Facebook, pasted Instagram over all the Facebook mentions and called it a day.

pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

tpink posted:

Actually saw people I know IRL posting this stuff on Instagram today (who are very far in age from being boomers) and was irrationally angry. How does anyone still fall for this nonsense?

I mean, it's annoying and stupid, but it's not like it's a chain letter or something. They post some meaningless text and it might give them legal protection. Most Americans claim to be Christian and celebrate it, which is essentially a belief that if you say you're sorry it makes up for anything you've ever done wrong and you go to a land of fluffy clouds forever. Is it such a wonder that people are prone to irrational thinking and believe in casting spells?

mds2
Apr 8, 2004


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tpink posted:

https://twitter.com/pattymo/status/1164028024330891265?s=20

Actually saw people I know IRL posting this stuff on Instagram today (who are very far in age from being boomers) and was irrationally angry. How does anyone still fall for this nonsense?

Just showed up on my instagram. Remember to comment "who the gently caress falls for this poo poo in 2019"

jojoinnit
Dec 13, 2010

Strength and speed, that's why you're a special agent.

mds2 posted:

Just showed up on my instagram. Remember to comment "who the gently caress falls for this poo poo in 2019"

I thought the same thing last week when a boomer in my feed did the original Facebook one and it was just bizarre to see it pop up again

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
It sounds ridiculous, but just a while back people were saying that you could go to some website, punch in your personal details and get some cash from Equifax. Turns out that wasn't true either.

My point, of course, is that how have we gotten to a point where normal people are expected to figure out how this poo poo works?

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

mds2 posted:

Just showed up on my instagram. Remember to comment "who the gently caress falls for this poo poo in 2019"

It's not like post-digital divide generations are any better at avoiding magical thinking, it's just that we find the idea that a website or company you use wouldn't automatically own all your poo poo and use it as they see fit regardless of what you wanted kinda hilarious. It's a pretty open secret that Facebook records my day-to-day conversations for advertising purposes, so why wouldn't Instagram own my photos??

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





A really good thread about the Trump messiah poo poo from earlier:

https://twitter.com/JYSexton/status/1164155080091865088?s=09

The whole thing is great, but I really want to highlight these three tweets in particular:

https://twitter.com/JYSexton/status/1164159372135665664?s=09
https://twitter.com/JYSexton/status/1164159842761814017?s=09
https://twitter.com/JYSexton/status/1164160626844938241?s=09

Tbf this is probably nothing that folks itt don't already know, but it's worth highlighting because it's a good wee primer to the whole ideology behind this poo poo.

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



Dr. Arbitrary posted:

It sounds ridiculous, but just a while back people were saying that you could go to some website, punch in your personal details and get some cash from Equifax. Turns out that wasn't true either.

that wasn't fake though, that's normal class-action settlement stuff that got a lot of respondents

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004

A peckish little mouse!
Killing humanity to own the libs.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!

pop fly to McGillicutty posted:

Killing humanity to own the libs.

Humanity deserves it, except for the only saved people in the world: Donald Trump and the 47 other members of my New Reformed West Buttfuck Pentecostal Bible Church (reformations of 1878, 1922, and 1977)

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004

A peckish little mouse!
Lol you think everything won't just be named"Trump"?

Jagged Jim
Sep 26, 2013

I... I can only look though the window...

I'm the BMW ornament on the Americar.

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

It's also an i8, a hybrid

pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp

GreyjoyBastard posted:

the horse demon statue certainly does not help
Fun fact, when I attended the University of Oklahoma in the 1990s, a much smaller - like the size of a real horse - prototype version of this statue by the same artist was installed on campus. It looked ridiculous in daylight, but kind of cool at night when the eyes were lit up. I was told there was also a red light in its penis that the administration refused to turn on.

Everyone hated it when it was new, but we kind of got used to it over the years. In any case, it was extremely weird to find out the Denver Airport was installing a gigantic version of "that demon horse near the math building."

I assume it also does not have a penis light, but think how much more terrifying it would be if it did.

Argas
Jan 13, 2008
SRW Fanatic




Remember when people used to tell you not to believe what you see on TV?

People are used to gatekeeping of some sort. In the past there was just a natural limit to how fast and far anything could be transmitted. The bars are now lower than ever before and society has done nothing to teach people to view information more critically. And it doesn't help that it's in the interests of business to not change that.

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pseudanonymous
Aug 30, 2008

When you make the second entry and the debits and credits balance, and you blow them to hell.

Argas posted:

Remember when people used to tell you not to believe what you see on TV?

People are used to gatekeeping of some sort. In the past there was just a natural limit to how fast and far anything could be transmitted. The bars are now lower than ever before and society has done nothing to teach people to view information more critically. And it doesn't help that it's in the interests of business to not change that.

There's also the internet making it trivial for people to spread this kind of misinformation and gather in groups to create a cult-like atmosphere. Twitter and facebook lets you spread the word and find the credulous. They also let you find people who may agree with you on some slight issue like "Trump is good", and slowly indoctrinate you, until you're ready for the inner temple. The way sub-reddits, and I'm assuming, Voats is perfect for this kind of thing. The sub-reddit rules specifically make calling out Q-anon for being absurd and laughable verboten. So you get to gather and worship and experience fellowships. Then when you go out into the wide world you get laughed at and rejected. Naturally, people want to return to the safe comforting space of the 8chan board or wherever they are gathering.

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