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looks like my first EGS game will be borderlands 3
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Pirate Jet posted:Hades is confirmed to be coming to Steam, though still in Early Access, on December 10th (almost exactly a year after its EGS launch.) https://steamcommunity.com/app/1145360/discussions/0/1639794468039436964/ They have also been slowing their release schedule for updates over the last year. Part of that is they've been putting in bigger chunks of features at a time, but I wouldn't be surprised if they've burned through a good chunk of their EGS money. Hades is very good and I'll probably end up buying it on Steam also when it's released because I am a consumer whore.
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Aug 22, 2019 18:22
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Pirate Jet posted:Plans definitely changed, somehow. Doesn’t GOG also have an early access program? Why are they prioritizing Steam? because you can actually sell a large number of copies on Steam
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Aug 22, 2019 18:22
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Buying games on EGS is fine if that is what you want to do, but come on, don't loving buy Borderlands 3 lol.
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Aug 22, 2019 18:23
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Mr.Unique-Name posted:I'm not saying security is impossible or that massive beaches should be handwaved away, just that the beaches shouldn't be incredibly surprising. poo poo gets missed and it isn't always sheer incompetence that causes that. I tell you right now, most of this stuff does get hand-waved away, usually by the people who end up as a victim of such a attack. You would not believe how much of this poo poo is completely preventable, but never gets addressed because either company doesn't care or VP 12 out of 20 didn't want to spent a small expense on proper network infrastructure for the latest office building they build and he/she didn't want to hurt their earning report so they can justify giving themselves a multi-million bonus that year. In my line of work, we see this all the time from big companies. Most these problems are caused by greed and/or stupidity. Back Hack fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Aug 22, 2019 |
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Aug 22, 2019 18:34
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I said come in! posted:Buying games on EGS is fine if that is what you want to do, but come on, don't loving buy Borderlands 3 lol. idgaf, borderlands owns even if pitchford is dogshit
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Aug 22, 2019 18:35
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eonwe posted:looks like my first EGS game will be borderlands 3 My condolences.
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Aug 22, 2019 19:00
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John Murdoch posted:Update: They finally published a piece on it. Good on them I guess...though it's still pretty obviously steeped in the same tone as the rest of their coverage. Wow, they really are barely even approaching the idea of Epic being in the wrong, huh? The article is not-so-subtly implying that the developer only did it because GAMERS are a HATE MOB rather than the stated reasoning, and completely brushed off the actual story of "Epic won't take indie games they themselves had said they're interested in unless they can force exclusivity", and were completely silent about the obvious examples of games available on Epic that are simulship. Just really blatantly a begrudging coverage of a story they don't want to have in the narrative.
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Aug 22, 2019 19:04
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There've been some very tinfoil hat-y and silly theories tossed about that show how sites like Kotaku and such are connected to Epic through long strings of subsidiaries and parent companies to explain why they always seem to report good stuff about EGS and bad stuff about Valve and CDPR/Cyberpunk 2077/GOG. I always kinda rolled my eyes, but it's hard not to be suspicious when you see poo poo like that.
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Aug 22, 2019 20:27
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The annoying thing about conspiracy theories is that sometimes, they're actually right. With the kind of money they're throwing around for marginal gains I absolutely could see them trying to buy off the odd writer under the table.
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Aug 22, 2019 20:34
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Kotaku writers can lick boot just fine without any money being involved
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Aug 22, 2019 20:36
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The White Dragon posted:lmao they so are man This is lame af. I'm sorry to hear that. But it seems to be par for the course.
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Aug 22, 2019 20:39
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You don't need to go as far as some cork-board with little pictures pinned to it linked up with red threads. The natural economic incentives of the business could just as easily have led to these outcomes, and I'm not even saying money-under-the-table poo poo, or like particularly planned behaviors or whatever. There was someone itt or in the Steam thread who mentioned there was a marked difference in positive vs. negative coverage in terms of clicks, and given how dependent publications are on ad-rev and click-through it seems natural for them to gravitate towards that kind of stuff. Doesn't hurt that Steam has, over the years, done a ton of memorable missteps and bad calls that rankled with the writers of these publications, mostly for good reason. EGS, by extension, has mostly pissed off consumers, and ultimately the survival of the publications is predicated more on games consumers getting mad enough about Latest Thing/Hot Take and clicking through than any sort of measured coverage that would get lost in the noise.
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Aug 22, 2019 20:44
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Was Darq visible as a highly wishlisted game on Steam for months before its release? I'm wondering if it's just a coincidence that Epic reached out to the developer only after they put up a trailer with a Steam release date, or if Epic had been watching the game for some time and purposely timed the deal to get maximum Gamer Anger if they took it and drive more of this media coverage in their favor.
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Aug 22, 2019 22:11
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eonwe posted:looks like my first EGS game will be borderlands 3 I legitimately don't understand why people want to play blands 3. It looks so mediocre, and you're giving Randy money
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Aug 22, 2019 22:14
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A good poster posted:Was Darq visible as a highly wishlisted game on Steam for months before its release? I'm wondering if it's just a coincidence that Epic reached out to the developer only after they put up a trailer with a Steam release date, or if Epic had been watching the game for some time and purposely timed the deal to get maximum Gamer Anger if they took it and drive more of this media coverage in their favor. It was in the top 50 wishlisted games, as are most games that Epic offers exclusivity contracts.
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Aug 22, 2019 22:18
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Grapplejack posted:It looks so mediocre
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Aug 22, 2019 22:19
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Grapplejack posted:I legitimately don't understand why people want to play blands 3. It looks so mediocre, and you're giving Randy money it looks, to me, good
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Aug 22, 2019 23:19
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eonwe posted:it looks, to me, good - A poster who recently made a thread about Archeage
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Aug 22, 2019 23:20
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Randy Pitchford stole $12 million dollars that was meant to go to his employees for their work on Borderlands 2. I'll buy Borderlands 3 if Randy Pitchford leaves Gearbox, and that $12 million is properly distributed to the people who worked on Borderlands 2, and the Borderland 3 people get a proper royalty from that games sales as well.
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Aug 22, 2019 23:23
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I said come in! posted:Randy Pitchford stole $12 million dollars that was meant to go to his employees for their work on Borderlands 2. I'll buy Borderlands 3 if Randy Pitchford leaves Gearbox, and that $12 million is properly distributed to the people who worked on Borderlands 2, and the Borderland 3 people get a proper royalty from that games sales as well. But that would be a criminal act. This is America, a land of law and justice. Surely you are mistaken!
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Aug 22, 2019 23:25
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eonwe posted:it looks, to me, good Wait for a reviewer you trust at least to say the game is good! Don't preorder! STOP YOU FOOL YOU'LL DOOM US ALL! For me the bottom line is this: Stores are not your friend, journalists are not your friend, 'gamers' are not your friend, reviewers are not your friend and you should only be placing trust in businesses and persons to the extent that they have earned it. I've been nabbing all the free titles of the EGS and will continue to do so. I'm not particularly interested in giving them money unless they are offering screaming deals and their service greatly improves. It would be very interesting to see how many people are taking the free titles offered but not otherwise interacting with the store. Generally I'm happy enough to wait for games that interest me to mature, have their dlc added in and have their price cut before I even consider a purchase unless I'm very confident that the offering on hand is already going to be one I'll really enjoy.
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Aug 22, 2019 23:59
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I grab the free stuff as a matter of principle (it's free!) but I've never actually played any. I don't even have the launcher installed. I guess it's just my inner hoarder making itself felt.
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Aug 23, 2019 00:02
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Chomp8645 posted:- A poster who recently made a thread about Archeage lol, oh noooo
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Aug 23, 2019 00:27
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I said come in! posted:Randy Pitchford stole $12 million dollars that was meant to go to his employees for their work on Borderlands 2. I'll buy Borderlands 3 if Randy Pitchford leaves Gearbox, and that $12 million is properly distributed to the people who worked on Borderlands 2, and the Borderland 3 people get a proper royalty from that games sales as well.
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Aug 23, 2019 00:35
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Chomp8645 posted:- A poster who recently made a thread about Archeage the thread which was pretty obviously making fun of their cash grab
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Aug 23, 2019 00:55
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Here To Help posted:For me the bottom line is this: Stores are not your friend, journalists are not your friend, 'gamers' are not your friend, reviewers are not your friend and you should only be placing trust in businesses and persons to the extent that they have earned it. So you're saying I have no friends. I knew it. 
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Aug 23, 2019 00:57
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eonwe posted:the thread which was pretty obviously making fun of their cash grab You're right, it was a cheap shot. I shouldn't have done it.
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Aug 23, 2019 01:28
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Chomp8645 posted:You're right, it was a cheap shot. rude i probably do have bad taste in games tho, but I like what i like
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Aug 23, 2019 02:17
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Accordion Man posted:Not to mention they stole Borderlands' cell-shaded style from that one animator to begin with. Yep, Codehunters. Every time its brought up you have people saying "yeah thats not ripping it off they're pretty different" or just outright shilling for Gearbox, but it's a 100% clear as day ripoff. They even asked the dude if he'd work on it but it didn't pan out since Gearbox realized they could just rip it off and not pay him and be legally OK.
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Aug 23, 2019 02:24
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eonwe posted:idgaf, borderlands owns I loved Borderlands back when I was younger, but that was 10 years ago, and 2 was 7 years ago... boy oh boy those games are cringe now that I'm older. Some of the worst writing and "comedy" to exist.
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Aug 23, 2019 03:01
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lovely Wizard posted:Yep, Codehunters. Every time its brought up you have people saying "yeah thats not ripping it off they're pretty different" or just outright shilling for Gearbox, but it's a 100% clear as day ripoff. They even asked the dude if he'd work on it but it didn't pan out since Gearbox realized they could just rip it off and not pay him and be legally OK. They even stole his opening scene. 
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Aug 23, 2019 03:17
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Half-Life 3 confirmed as an Epic Store Exclusive.
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Aug 23, 2019 03:46
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Verranicus posted:Half-Life 3 confirmed as an Epic Store Exclusive. That's Half-Life Free, starring Gorman Freedom
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Aug 23, 2019 04:25
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I’ll be straightforward: I care first and foremost about myself as a consumer, and the way Steam used to operate and the way Epic almost operates now is best for me. I just don’t care that much that some developers stressed themselves into their doctor’s office over whether their indie game gets on Steam. And to be honest, when every two-bit self published trash is collected in the market like Steam does then they can’t stress because being on Steam is totally meaningless anymore. That’s not to say that there shouldn’t be an indie storefront, but Valve shouldn’t have made Steam that storefront. An “only the good ones” policy is fine if itchio or some other site exists for every other thing. There’s porn games that exist only through Patreon, there’s a lot of ways to fund a video game. I don’t appreciate Epic taking games off of Steam, but I can’t complain with them treating indies as unworthy of standing with the industry titans aside from some proven successes. That’s what I as a consumer want.
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Aug 23, 2019 04:42
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Aug 23, 2019 05:59
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Is that some new copypasta that I'm not aware of?
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Aug 23, 2019 06:33
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Craptacular! posted:“only the good ones” It's great when people say this like it's not entirely subjective.
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Aug 23, 2019 09:02
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..btt posted:It's great when people say this like it's not entirely subjective. Hades is on there and made exclusive because Supergiant has proven themselves in the other marketplace. Hyper Light Drifter is on there because it has sold so well and been so well received over many platforms. I don’t owe the indie game community my attention span for the thousands of indie games each year, just as Amazon doesn’t need to stock everyone’s Soundcloud album. The fact that itchio (and Soundcloud) exist is good enough to get projects out there and let the people who want to separate wheat from chaff do so. Meanwhile, this platform’s premiere game store (Steam) is loaded with more self published BS than the consoles that game store is competing with.
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If you want some good indie games for free Fez is the current free EGS game and next week there's Celeste and Inside which both own. There's also a sale on a few Ubisoft games including Far Cry Primal for 90% off?
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