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01011001 posted:arent a lot of shootings just handguns anyway yeah, handguns are the big killer. but they're also the most common and most widely-owned kind of gun, so politicians are too scared to go after them most of the time Asimov posted:Every day I'm a bit low-key surprised that many everyday things haven't yet become futuristic. Cell phones, computers and the internet caused things to it change bigly. Consider the following inventions that have become more efficient, but haven't noticeably changed their importance in society over the last several decades. real technology doesn't work like Civilization where you just advance along a tech tree cars have changed a lot in the last few decades - they're now packed full of electronics and computers. they can connect to your phone and play your music, they can look up directions, they can display parking cameras and radars, they can log your driving behavior for insurers. but the wheels are still made of rubber, because materials science and chemistry and structural engineering haven't undergone any major fundamental advances. similarly, if you want, you can get a gun packed full of gimmick electronics, though the market largely isn't interested in those. but the fundamental principles behind bullets haven't really changed. the people who shoot guns don't want things like a barrel cam that records exactly what you're shooting at and why. they'd much prefer that they're the only living witness and that there's no evidence that could contradict their story to the jury
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Aug 24, 2019 18:57
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"Smart" guns that had electronic security systems to prevent them from firing if you didn't have the key or the right biometrics or even could be restricted from firing in certain locations were developed back in 2002. Some states even passed legislation that would require all future guns to have some kind of smart locking system. They were largely prevented from coming out onto the market by the gun lobby. There's no singular magic bullet legislation that will cut down on all gun violence, but there's hundreds of laws that could help that have all been targeted and destroyed by people who thrive on gun violence. There's really no way around it, they have to be destroyed so that the world can be livable.
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Aug 24, 2019 19:28
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A gun is too simple of a device for some kind of biometric smart lock to be workable. It's basically just a tube with a spring loaded pin, and even if you had a fingerprint scanner to prevent the pin from being released, you could just take it apart and remove whatever mechanism stops it from being actuated. Think of it as being like a toilet that won't flush without scanning your thumbprint. Maybe an unauthorized user couldn't pull the flush lever, but they could just open up the tank and pull the flapper valve open manually. Ansar Santa has issued a correction as of 19:44 on Aug 24, 2019 |
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Aug 24, 2019 19:40
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A Russian troll farm posted:A gun is too simple of a device for some kind of biometric smart lock to be workable. It's basically just a tube with a spring loaded pin, and even if you had a fingerprint scanner to prevent the pin from being released, you could just take it apart and remove whatever mechanism stops it from being actuated. the gun explodes when they try to take it apart
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Aug 24, 2019 19:55
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The Saddest Rhino posted:I think this is actually not lovely but I dunno where to post it Friggin space crimes? Daaaang but that is cool. I might get out of bed today after all.
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Aug 24, 2019 20:14
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UPDATE: nah
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Aug 24, 2019 20:14
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A Russian troll farm posted:A gun is too simple of a device for some kind of biometric smart lock to be workable. It's basically just a tube with a spring loaded pin, and even if you had a fingerprint scanner to prevent the pin from being released, you could just take it apart and remove whatever mechanism stops it from being actuated. Do you bother locking your car or your home despite the fact that somebody could just smash out a window?
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Aug 24, 2019 20:21
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The Saddest Rhino posted:I think this is actually not lovely but I dunno where to post it Be gay do
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Aug 24, 2019 20:28
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SlothfulCobra posted:Do you bother locking your car or your home despite the fact that somebody could just smash out a window? They already have locks for guns. Biometrics would just add a basically useless layer of complexity without really solving anything. If its purpose is to prevent stolen guns from being usable, it's useless. If its purpose is to prevent kids from accidentally firing a gun, the kind of dipshit who leaves a loaded gun unlocked in his house for his kids to find is certainly going to disable whatever biometric safety system is isntalled, so it's useless. It's just tech fetishist nonsense. The real solution is political: implement mandatory licensing and safety tests, stricter controls. A political solution is also more realistic to implement because mandatory biometrics on guns would involve seizing and destroying every single gun in the US, and at that point you may as well just ban them altogether.
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Aug 24, 2019 20:33
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The Saddest Rhino posted:I think this is actually not lovely but I dunno where to post it *smug idiot voice* actually the first space crime was the murder of Laika fe: actually apparently it was some fruit flies and Albert II the monkey but Laika is cuter
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Aug 24, 2019 20:59
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https://twitter.com/Jordan_Sather_/status/1165327628825284610
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Aug 24, 2019 21:10
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foobardog posted:*smug idiot voice* actually the first space crime was the murder of Laika actually it was littering 
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Aug 24, 2019 21:26
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Now I'm just waiting for them to disassemble it and rebuild it as a revolutionary weapon of some stripe.
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Aug 24, 2019 21:27
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:actually it was littering Actually, it was being a loving Nazi. The first artificial object in outer space was a V‐2 missile.
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Aug 24, 2019 21:41
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HK is so far ahead of the Western world when it comes to good praxis.
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Aug 24, 2019 21:43
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FUN FACT: the nazi moon bases are on the moon and not space, so whatever they're doing up there counts as Moon Crime and not Space Crime.
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Aug 24, 2019 21:45
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:actually it was littering Moon person shedding a single tear as a golf ball comes to rest at their tentacles
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Aug 24, 2019 21:48
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https://twitter.com/rik_ferguson/status/1165214182435934208
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Aug 24, 2019 21:53
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foobardog posted:Moon person shedding a single tear as a golf ball comes to rest at their tentacles "Ow! My Quads!"
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Aug 24, 2019 21:55
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Yeah def no difference between a gun with extra safeties like biometric poo poo and a gun with no safeties and can just be fired by pulling the trigger. Sure, biometrics are dumb and fallible, but 'layers of complexity' prevent deaths all the time. This is why waiting periods for guns save lives, because its a lot harder to kill people on a whim when youre forced to have some time to think about it Feral Integral has issued a correction as of 22:27 on Aug 24, 2019 |
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Aug 24, 2019 22:24
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Asimov posted:If we didn't have our AK-47s we'd be loosing Afghanistan
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Aug 24, 2019 22:38
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Tactical umbrellas 
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Aug 24, 2019 22:39
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There's almost no daylight between mandating biometric safties on all guns and banning guns outright, so why not go all the way? Mandated biometric safties would necessarily mean confiscating every single gun in the country and either holding them somewhere or destroying them, since from both an engineering and logistical standpoint it would be completely unfeasible to retrofit every gun. So it would be seen correctly as an attempt to confiscate all guns, and it would be just as politically unfeasible. So why not just go all the way at that point? It's just a dumb idea. It both goes too far and doesn't go far enough. It would have very little payoff for a massive effort.
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Aug 24, 2019 22:40
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mysterious frankie posted:FUN FACT: the nazi moon bases are on the moon and not space, so whatever they're doing up there counts as Moon Crime and not Space Crime.
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Aug 24, 2019 22:42
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pack it up guys, gun control in the us is clearly impossible because it can't be solved in one single, simple step
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Aug 24, 2019 23:03
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control these guns *flails arms spastically around like a tased chicken*
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Aug 24, 2019 23:06
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step 1 is for president bernie sanders to sign an executive order banning magpul and choate from selling any products in a color other than hot pink. give them the pantone number.
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Aug 24, 2019 23:15
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Jonny 290 posted:step 1 is for president bernie sanders to sign an executive order banning magpul and choate from selling any products in a color other than hot pink. give them the pantone number. sorry but i want all my guns to be pink and purple with neon lights for the cyber punk future
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Aug 24, 2019 23:17
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Electronic safeties sound great, add guns to the internet of things so we can share viral videos of frustrated pigs trying to shoot innocents and failing because their sidearm is busy participating in a ddos botnet
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Aug 24, 2019 23:18
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Poniard posted:sorry but i want all my guns to be pink and purple with neon lights for the cyber punk future well yeah it'd be a win for us cause we'd be all HELL YES JEM THEMED AK47, chuds would flip
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Aug 24, 2019 23:22
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Screw gun control, institute bullet control.
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Aug 24, 2019 23:36
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Away all Goats posted:Screw gun control, institute bullet control.
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Aug 24, 2019 23:38
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Away all Goats posted:Screw gun control, institute bullet control. Thanks Chris Rock
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Aug 24, 2019 23:42
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SardonicTyrant posted:White control.
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Aug 25, 2019 00:19
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SlothfulCobra posted:"Smart" guns that had electronic security systems to prevent them from firing if you didn't have the key or the right biometrics or even could be restricted from firing in certain locations were developed back in 2002. Some states even passed legislation that would require all future guns to have some kind of smart locking system. They were largely prevented from coming out onto the market by the gun lobby. ...Never mind that the current state of "smart gun" is "won't fire if it's not in proximity to your watch".
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Aug 25, 2019 00:24
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I believe someone tried loving around with one of those guns and the hack was "hold a powerful magnet next to the gun". edit: Yup, found it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANllOmgJH9Y
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Aug 25, 2019 00:32
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Remember in Black Sheep when Chris Farley is telling people to vote during that concert and then shouts "Kill the whites"? Chris Farley is dead now. Make you think.
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Aug 25, 2019 00:36
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https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/1165408630440681472
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Aug 25, 2019 00:47
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That guy doesn't know how to uninstall McAfee though.
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Aug 25, 2019 00:58
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Yeah in terms of underlying hardware cars have changed massively in the last few years. Parts talking to each other over local wireless networks and practically every car has an LTE modem in it now so it can get OTA updates. And if you're a car company IT nerd, the alphabet soup people, or a bored ukranian teenager who noticed that car companies like to leave hardcoded keys in their public repo commits, you can remotely hijack someones car and drive it into a ditch lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK0SrxBC1xs
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