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Verizian posted:Didn't he do a big speech about how Brexit will save the UK from the nazi EU too? There's a lot of old rockers who are dangerously out of touch and buy into bullshit far too easily. He missed out that part in Scotland if he did, he was very pro-EU when they played up here...
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CyberPingu posted:He missed out that part in Scotland if he did, he was very pro-EU when they played up here... Bruce Dickinson is very famously the only airline pilot to openly support Brexit. If he said otherwise in Scotland, he was playing the crowd.
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Bruce Dickinson chat: Iron Maiden’s Bruce Dickinson reveals why he voted to leave the EU and says he’s ‘quite relaxed’ about Brexit Read more at https://www.nme.com/news/music/iron-maidens-bruce-dickinson-voted-leave-eu-quite-relaxed-brexit-2413027#SzeiSFDi4h3DZGTF.99 Reading that article is essentially we, extremely wealthy rockers with a global audience, will be alright therefore everyone will be alright. Anti-nazi metal. Y'all forgot Napalm Death Anyway, https://news.avclub.com/feed-your-anti-fascist-anger-with-a-playlist-of-metal-s-1798265177 link to the spotify playlist mentioned in that article: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/34PBXAtf8z3bAZbCiEVt24
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Bruce Dickinson chat: Huh, That sucks and is really disappointing
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CyberPingu posted:Iron Maiden are the best anti-nazi band and Bruce did a big speach when i saw them last year about not letting them anywhere near power ever again They have a massive hardon for the Empire though. I love their music but they're wankers. Reminder that Bruce waved a Union Jack in Argentina right after the Falklands war The Lone Badger posted:Are akubras acceptable? Only if you wear a white shirt and khaki shorts, and say "crikey" a lot, otherwise it's cultural appropriation. crispix posted:If this country leaves the EU without an agreement with the EU then this country as we know it is finished. It will not be allowed to happen. Lol that's Just World Fallacy as gently caress. I hope reason prevails too but I'm far too jaded by now.
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I kinda assume Cattle Decapitation are anti-fash, being so stridently pro-animal rights and environmentalist. Haven't really investigated beyond that. And going off my username, can't ignore that anti-fash stalwarts Propagandhi are much more of a metal band than a punk band. Just a category error due to their sometimes questionable early Fat Wreck days Pochoclo posted:They have a massive hardon for the Empire though. I love their music but they're wankers. Reminder that Bruce waved a Union Jack in Argentina right after the Falklands war IIRC they brought out the Union Jack at a show in Dublin in the early 00s and were genuinely surprised by the hostile reception, lol E: https://www.thefreelibrary.com/UNION+JACK+FURY+OF+IRON+MAIDEN+FANS%3b+POINT+CROWD+BOO+AT+FLAG+WAVING.-a0110783875 Owned Failed Imagineer fucked around with this message at 12:35 on Aug 26, 2019 |
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The UK flag thing is part of a song as an homage to people who died in WW1. But yeah, i agree taking it out in the Falklands and Dublin is not exactly the best move.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Anti-nazi metal. Y'all forgot Napalm Death I will never not love being in a Napalm Death crowd and joining in with everyone screaming themselves hoarse to Nazi Punks gently caress Off. The RABM scene is working had to counter NSBM poo poo and put out great leftist black metal of many stripes. And I like that it's spreading to genres too. Pro playlist drop. EDIT: Coven of the Pestilent One by UK goon Lifeglug, pro queer/trans rights, anti-capitalist, anti-facist and all that good poo poo. Also on all big streaming services. And in fracking talk - how long before "sorry, buy a filyet from your water company or buy bottled water" is the norm is hell-timeline continues? DroneRiff fucked around with this message at 12:50 on Aug 26, 2019 |
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CyberPingu posted:The UK flag thing is part of a song as an homage to people who died in WW1. But yeah, i agree taking it out in the Falklands and Dublin is not exactly the best move. Pretty sure that Falkland Islanders would dig it. They're big British nationalists for what should be obvious reasons.
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CyberPingu posted:The UK flag thing is part of a song as an homage to people who died in WW1. But yeah, i agree taking it out in the Falklands and Dublin is not exactly the best move. Darth Walrus posted:Pretty sure that Falkland Islanders would dig it. They're big British nationalists for what should be obvious reasons. It was Buenos Aires, not Falklands, the Falklands are British, we had a war to decide that lol. And to be fair to them it was 2001, not "right after" as I thought, but still, you wave a giant Union Jack in Buenos Aires, don't complain if you get the "el que no salta es un inglés" football chant Paradoxically we love British culture but flags are special for some reason. I think they trigger the football as religion thing Pochoclo fucked around with this message at 13:00 on Aug 26, 2019 |
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Darth Walrus posted:Pretty sure that Falkland Islanders would dig it. They're big British nationalists for what should be obvious reasons. Yeah I think it's Buenos Aires that had the problem. Not sure a Falklands gig would get the numbers, sheep included. And sure, the Trooper is obv about WW1, but uhh the Irish have slightly different associations with that word. Specially since many of those actual Ww1 troopers were then shipped to Ireland to rape the locals and burn down our cities
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Verizian posted:The most politically correct band is still Anaal Nathrakh since their main position is People = Cunts but especially modern news media, nazis, capitalism, and organised religion. Allfather are full on Antifa. They promote their music as riffs against fascism.
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namesake posted:Oh I get that we're going to no deal and it'll probably be the lib dems fault, it's just that that's fairly disasterous while my suggestion basically gets over the line into 'good thing' while nothing else does. No, my point is that even if Labour get in, there’s still no way that their withdrawal agreement passes. It cannot win a referendum (just think how small a proportion of the population actually want a Labour Brexit. Most leavers want a Tory one and most Labour supporters want remain), and even if they ditch a public vote, Corbyn will not be able to get the votes in Parliament for one.
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feedmegin posted:Uh. I don't know about that. 1660 a bit of an exception obvs. Edward cancelled Henry, Mary cancelled Edward, and so on. Certainly more a Crown as the monarch rather than a legal fiction attached to a hat attached to an old woman. feedmegin posted:We were a Republic before we were a Protectorate, from 1649 to 1653. No gods no masters. The Lone Badger posted:Are akubras acceptable? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X9tBHX_Fl4 Failed Imagineer posted:And sure, the Trooper is obv about WW1, but uhh the Irish have slightly different associations with that word. Specially since many of those actual Ww1 troopers were then shipped to Ireland to rape the locals and burn down our cities
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Ah well, nevertheless. *shrinks into corncob*
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Comrade Fakename posted:No, my point is that even if Labour get in, there’s still no way that their withdrawal agreement passes. It cannot win a referendum (just think how small a proportion of the population actually want a Labour Brexit. Most leavers want a Tory one and most Labour supporters want remain), and even if they ditch a public vote, Corbyn will not be able to get the votes in Parliament for one. Labour's proposal at that point would probably be a referendum for our agreement vs remain. Thus, a referendum where both options are fully explained and acceptable to the government, i.e. an actually useful, meaningful referendum on the topic. And if we leave, under a putative labour-agreed withdrawal agreement, or we stay, then either is acceptable.
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Verizian posted:Didn't he do a big speech about how Brexit will save the UK from the nazi EU too? There's a lot of old rockers who are dangerously out of touch and buy into bullshit far too easily. Iskra. Really good eggs. Named after the newspaper of the RSDLP, founded by Lenin, Plekhanov, Martov & others, whose motto was "from a spark a fire will flare up" (because Iskra is the Russian word for spark). Really on the mark politics and their music is loving fantastic. Bits of black metal, bits of crust punk, all in a very satisfying package. Plus I've mentioned Panopticon in UKMT plenty times before but Austin Lunn is very much good politics combined with black metal. Genuinely excited to live in an era where the best black metal isn't being made by reprehensible cunts.
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I want to believe that everything won't keep getting worse and more stupid, and everything good won't be carved up and sold off to ultra-rich vultures, and Corbs will win a banging VONC and usher in a new golden age, and the hardest possible Brexit isn't a miserable inevitability, but living in a house with two dogs and two cats and a four-year-old has shown me the terrible truth: we can't have nice things. 
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I also saw Iron Maiden last year (in Brum), and Bruce also did his "nazis" bit. He said something like "sometimes we as a country have just got to do what's right, like when we fought the nazis" - right in front of a Union Jack - and he was very obviously talking about Brexit, with the implication that the EU are the nazis. I guess if you replace the flag with St Andrew's Cross it might change the inference a bit but from where I was standing it was real loving obvious. Still a great set mind. e: think he might have actually said something explicitly about Brexit, or the state of politics in general, beforehand? idr, turns out scientists have developed plastic cups capable of usefully holding 2 pints so I managed to actually get pissed at the NEC vvvv it's silly fun rock music and they put on a good show, who cares 
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Iron Maiden are loving shite anyway so it doesn't matter that Bruce is purebred gammon. (It's important to remember that every metal band I dislike are shite. Especially the ones like Iron Maiden & Slayer who I don't actually dislike but am just bored of) forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Aug 26, 2019 |
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thespaceinvader posted:Labour's proposal at that point would probably be a referendum for our agreement vs remain. Thus, a referendum where both options are fully explained and acceptable to the government, i.e. an actually useful, meaningful referendum on the topic. Yes, I know. But there’s no way a Labour-led deal would win a referendum, nor in parliament if a public vote doesn’t happen for some reason, is my point.
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forkboy84 posted:Iron Maiden are loving shite anyway so it doesn't matter that Bruce is purebred gammon. They have some catchy stuff and decent guitarmonies, but you could (should) just listen to Thin Lizzy instead
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Payndz posted:but living in a house with two dogs and two cats and a four-year-old has shown me the terrible truth: we can't have nice things. I'm sorry your dual cat experience is being sullied by two dogs and a child.
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forkboy84 posted:Iron Maiden are loving shite anyway so it doesn't matter that Bruce is purebred gammon. I saw Iron Maiden at Brixton supported by My Dying Bride (one of my favouritest bands ever) and stood in an underground carriage after the gig chock full of die-hard Maiden fans and loudly said 'of course, MDB blew them off stage'. It all went quiet. The guy I was with edged away and tried to look as if we'd never met. I survived the death stares.
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forkboy84 posted:Iron Maiden are loving shite anyway so it doesn't matter that Bruce is purebred gammon. I remember Slayer made a big thing about how the 'snowflakes' needed to respect the president after Trump was elected, which made it even funnier when everyone tried to spin them getting kicked off sponsoring a Nascar team as Nascar being afraid of alienating the right instead of Nascar being afraid of alienating the purity driven fucks who never got over the idea that all metal is satan worshippers.
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Guavanaut posted:*running around Dublin with a Union flag cape singing about the Light Brigade and dual weilding two cats* Judging by the weird poo poo I hear outside my flat at night this may already be happening Jaeluni Asjil posted:'of course, MDB blew them off stage'. Pretty sus.
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The biggest metalhead I know is also the biggest fascist I know. Power metal and muslim genocide go hand in hand as far as my anecdotal evidence is concerned.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Would be neat to have some good Muslim metal bands actually. I know Indonesia has a pretty rad metal scene but I know nothing about it Yeah there are loads. Metal is one of the most unifying forces in the world. I'll dig out a few later if I get time. Did you ever see that documentary Heavy Metal in Baghdad? When I lived in Cairo I knew an Egyptian female metal fan who wore a hijab covered in skulls to gigs. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Aug 26, 2019 |
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Who wants some magic unicorn Irish border? I do! I do! quote:Experts propose alternative to Brexit backstop Oh ok so now it's a crime - which wasn't at all a problem during the Troubles, and we don't do border checks, but we'll do them 5 miles inland.
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Failed Imagineer posted:No, but that all sounds very cool. I follow this girl on Facebook - she's Indonesian - does lots of covers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tayGdTfL7b4 Pound_Coin posted:also im 33 today Happy birthday Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Aug 26, 2019 |
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I follow this girl on Facebook - she's Indonesian - does lots of covers. That's rad, she's definitely a better player than I was at her age, and exponentially cooler
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