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Hmmmm, just had an email, at 22:00 today of an emergency CLP meeting tomorrow at 6pm. No agenda set, nothing from above about why but they are asking for all members to attend. quote:Hi All Think this might have to be my first CLP meeting lads, something is afoot.
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Tesseraction posted:I have to admit due to Family Matters I have been entirely unplugged from politics this weekend, what fresh hell awaits us? While I appreciate you drowning your sorrows in 90s sitcoms, you should probably focus up because the world is ending.
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Aug 26, 2019 22:19
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Necrothatcher posted:Angry videogame man Jim Sterling has finally revealed himself as a true comrade: He started openly attacking capitalism a few months ago after asking twitter for advice about his political leanings as he leaned towards socialism but didn't know enough about it to commit. Actually it might even be closer to a year ago now. I lose track of time in hell world.
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Aug 26, 2019 22:20
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Sterling's output has been a steady progression towards "maybe everything bad about videogames is capitalism" for a while yes. It's kinda fun.
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Aug 26, 2019 22:23
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AceClown posted:Hmmmm, just had an email, at 22:00 today of an emergency CLP meeting tomorrow at 6pm. Nothing from Stroud CLP
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Aug 26, 2019 22:36
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It might be nothing, but it's just really odd that it's come out at 10pm on a bank holiday and I've never really seen a meeting invite like it in all the time I've been a member.
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Aug 26, 2019 22:45
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Yeah Jim Sterling's been going more and more comradely and leftist for awhile now and it's been great. Now like half his output is railing against how poo poo capitalism is and how much harm it does to vidya, just like Owly said. It rules. I thought he was becoming a good'un but then he was on Hbomber's DK stream saying Trans Rights and I was confident in that belief.
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Aug 26, 2019 22:59
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AceClown posted:Hmmmm, just had an email, at 22:00 today of an emergency CLP meeting tomorrow at 6pm. Have you joined a related FB group - I see 2 new posts today (but am not a member so don't know what they say). I know if our local branch had 2 posts in a day that would be big news. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1832822207003715/
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Aug 26, 2019 23:00
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It's kinda surreal cos it's like, he still only really does video games (and is apparently a wrestling manager  ) so it's like, babby's first political radicalization and the reason is microtransactions lol.It's gonna end in 2025 with the revolution happening because gamers actually rose up and jim sterling is gonna be lenin.
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Aug 26, 2019 23:02
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Enfield North have had a 'Special' meeting recently, although I think that's because the regional NEC are worried the CLP's been taken over by Turkish residents.
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Aug 26, 2019 23:05
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OwlFancier posted:It's gonna end in 2025 with the revolution happening because gamers actually rose up and jim sterling is gonna be lenin.
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Aug 26, 2019 23:06
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Hey, everyone plays videos game these days and shittiness stemming from capitalism is absolutely rampant, for every company that does well from honest work and isn't lovely beyond what mere existence in capitalism demands, there's a dozen that are fleecing players and nickel and diming you and treating their workers unbelievably badly. If it gets people on board, then hey, fine with me!
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Aug 26, 2019 23:11
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Ms Adequate posted:Hey, everyone plays videos game these days and shittiness stemming from capitalism is absolutely rampant, for every company that does well from honest work and isn't lovely beyond what mere existence in capitalism demands, there's a dozen that are fleecing players and nickel and diming you and treating their workers unbelievably badly. If it gets people on board, then hey, fine with me! Makes a change from them going reactionary at least.
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Aug 26, 2019 23:12
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Oh I agree that video games are well ahead of many areas in the area of capitalist bullshit, it's just strange to have a prominent figure actually pointing that out rather than "actually you need to be a better bootlicker cos otherwise they'll take their business and go home"
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Aug 26, 2019 23:13
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Guavanaut posted:YOUNG MONSTER THIS IS THE LAST LIGHTTHOUSE Some of this stuff actually seems quite poetic.
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Aug 26, 2019 23:14
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Yeah loving hell has anybody ever played a game that time limits you on how much you can play it unless you pay? Phone apps are the worst for it. I downloaded one and it was an alright game - some word game, but you played it for 10 minutes and then it was like "You need more [gems/coins/magical unicorn farts] to continue. You can wait and it'll take 8 hours until you have enough, or you can buy some!". loving uninstalled that in an instant. Doesn't take many experiences like that to make you think "Hang on a minute, capitalism is loving poo poo".
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Aug 26, 2019 23:16
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WhatEvil posted:Yeah loving hell has anybody ever played a game that time limits you on how much you can play it unless you pay? pretty sure there was a Harry Potter phone game released recently that did something like that? obviously JKR was nowhere to be seen on the subject since she'd already got her cut
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Aug 26, 2019 23:16
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The only game like that I played was Fallen London and yeah I couldn't last more than a little bit. Which is actually great shame since it has some fairly fun quirky genre fiction writing. It's by the same people as Sunless Sea, for any fellow videogamers ITT.
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Aug 26, 2019 23:21
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Energy systems(that you can pay to top up!) and limited resources(that you can pay to get more of!) are very common in mobile free-to-play games and yes both of the Harry Potter mobile games released recently feature them in spades. Unfortunately they're common because they make shitloads of money.
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Aug 26, 2019 23:26
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WhatEvil posted:Yeah loving hell has anybody ever played a game that time limits you on how much you can play it unless you pay? Mobile gaming lol. Mobile gaming is a cesspit. You may enjoy this video from GDC about two guys who automated phone game development and made 1500 identical slot machine games that were, in some ways, actually better than good games at generating revenue. https://www.gdcvault.com/play/1025766/1-500-Slot-Machines-Walk Particularly I like the concept of anti-retention gaming, where you make the game so bad, people click on the ads to escape. Leading to ridiculously high clickthrough rates on advertising.
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Aug 26, 2019 23:27
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Ms Adequate posted:Yeah Jim Sterling's been going more and more comradely and leftist for awhile now and it's been great. Now like half his output is railing against how poo poo capitalism is and how much harm it does to vidya, just like Owly said. It rules. I thought he was becoming a good'un but then he was on Hbomber's DK stream saying Trans Rights and I was confident in that belief. I mean Jim's done entire sections about how much he loves suckin' dick and refers to himself as a 'queerbo' so him turning up on the dolphinstream wasn't surprising to me outside of "oh poo poo Jim and Harry are friends??"
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Aug 26, 2019 23:30
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Jim interrupting a recent video to comment on the upcoming game Ion Fury's developer controversy (they're transphobic as poo poo, for those not in the know) was him showing the headline and going "oh well that's poo poo........ at least it's saved me a bit of money, though"
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Aug 26, 2019 23:32
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OwlFancier posted:Mobile gaming lol. Ah yeah I've seen that, good vid. But yeah, mobile games. I have no problem spending money on them, if it's to buy them, or make them ad-free or whatever. What I do have an issue with is when it essentially becomes a subscription model for no good reason.
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Aug 26, 2019 23:33
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Tesseraction posted:Jim interrupting a recent video to comment on the upcoming game Ion Fury's developer controversy (they're transphobic as poo poo, for those not in the know) was him showing the headline and going "oh well that's poo poo........ at least it's saved me a bit of money, though" Huh, well that's a shame cos it looks like a good game, oh well.
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Aug 26, 2019 23:35
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Private Speech posted:It's by the same people as Sunless Sea, for any fellow videogamers ITT.  Sunless Sea, and need to start playing it again. I've not played Sunless Skies yet, it it worth it?Also I really want them (or anyone) to do some extended game set on the Elder Continent written by African or South Asian genre writers so that they can do the "British imperialists discover weirdness" thing writ large without the suspicion that it's just "British writers discover excuse for racism."
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Aug 26, 2019 23:35
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I wish sunless sea had the mechanics of like, starsector, cos the setting seems neat but the actual gameplay puts me right off. Skies I'm told is better gameplay wise but still not sure it'd be enough for me.
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e; ^^^ what in theeee gently caressOwlFancier posted:I wish sunless sea had the mechanics of like, starsector, cos the setting seems neat but the actual gameplay puts me right off. Big same, I loved everything about Seas except actually playing it. I love that Alexis Kennedy is both a good writer and a person who grew up gaming, it lets him really make the two work together rather than just having a plot written by a sci-fi author but having no bearing on the gameplay or whatever. THE WORM THE WORM THE WORM OwlFancier posted:Huh, well that's a shame cos it looks like a good game, oh well. Again, big same  (But I want to say that as a tran, seeing cis people who are willing to actually avoid a product or the like because of transphobia gives me enormous comfort)
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Ms Adequate posted:Big same, I loved everything about Seas except actually playing it. That angle and velocity is going to have both of them faceplanting the beach just to try to destroy the euro sandcastles, AGC.
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Aug 26, 2019 23:58
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Euro sandcastles don't look like that, they look like this. I really do want to go to the beach with a big compass, set square, and trowel one day.
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Julio Cruz posted:pretty sure there was a Harry Potter phone game released recently that did something like that? obviously JKR was nowhere to be seen on the subject since she'd already got her cut Think this is it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4_BU4tc6RE
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Aug 27, 2019 00:06
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quote:Labour has won 90% of the vote. The SNP has won only 30%. Jeremy Corbyn is in his home constituency, and Labour has come up with one of the best policies put forward in any election in the last few decades. It is not the only way the SNP can show the Tories that their time is up. They could launch a full-frontal attack on Labour from the start. The SNP would attack Labour's 'radicalism', accusing it of being a party of government. They would accuse Labour of taking away powers from the Scottish Parliament. They would accuse Labour of turning Britain into an island of democracy where no real democracy exists. Has Coohoolin been a bot all along?
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Aug 27, 2019 00:17
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 specking of capitalism and games, did y'all hear about the mortal kombat developers (especially the artists and animators) getting PTSD because they were made to uh look at a lot of reference material
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Aug 27, 2019 00:30
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Hoagie does actually look quite a lot like Boris Johnson, just with black hair.
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Aug 27, 2019 00:33
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Jim did a video about it - before everyone kicked up a stink about it, there was a sequence where it was really easy to run out of energy in the middle of a sequence where your character is getting strangled by a plant, and your character continues to hang there being strangled unless you buy more energy. Is this a fetish thing?
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My day job is basically video game monetization and has been for about 10 years and yep. It's horrible capitalism all the way down and it's basically going to get worse before it gets better as barring extreme regulation like a spend cap per title you simply make way less money if you don't do awful things. It's such a hit driven market full of risk that even if you DO every nefarious, sleazy, unfair, psychologically ruinous thing you can, you can still completely fail. With that in mind no big publisher is going to risk a higher risk but fairer system more than once. See stuff like Apex: Legends where initially the dev diaries said they wanted everything to be even, fair and grindable in game. Then season 2 comes out and you get the debacle with paid loot box only and kompu style gacha to increase conversion and the devs going on a PR nightmare rampage saying nobody pays for anything and players are greedy assholes etc. I really don't know where the industry is going to go because its entirely broken right now. I just want to make fun systems and good games.
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Aug 27, 2019 01:34
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Death 2 publishers honestly. I buy almost no big budget games because they're nearly all crap or getting crappier. The whole system of ever increasing profits and budgets is stupid and is gonna crash the industry again if it keeps going. I genuinely think the best games are the small projects by small or single developers which can afford to devote time to producing actually interesting games instead of spaffing it all on graphics, monetization, and online bollocks. Pixels don't make up for artistic talent and an understanding of good game design, or attention in places where it can really show like writing.
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Aug 27, 2019 01:36
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I still enjoy a fair chunk of big budget games (I'm currently deep in Far Cry 5 of all things and it's not like Ubi is anything but a bag of shite as a publisher), and imo there's plenty of good ones around, but I'm pretty good at simply ignoring the monetization stuff for the most part and I recognize that a lot of people aren't. It's been shockingly easy to spend money on loot boxes and stuff on the rare occasions I do want something (Mei's Honeydew skin in Overwatch, Mei's Jaingshi skin in Overwatch, Mei's Pajamei skin in Overwatch) so for people who didn't happen to end up like me and be largely able to not care it must be an ever-present risk.  Fortunately there are a vast number of smaller and indie games out there as well and on that front the medium's never been better.
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