flakeloaf posted:

just lol if you allow any work poo poo to touch your own phone

Soricidus posted:

but they’re still keeping the weird mismatch between android version numbers and api version numbers (android 10 is api 29 I think)

infernal machines posted:

are the API and the os release directly tied to each other or are there scenarios where they might not directly match up?

infernal machines posted:

are the API and the os release directly tied to each other or are there scenarios where they might not directly match up?

Gentle Autist posted:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/21/20826812/samsung-giphy-gifs-instagram-meme-makers-blue-green

lol sarnsung salty as gently caress

even though the 'ewww green bubble' thing is insufferable its worth perpetuating it to troll never-ios types

Gentle Autist posted:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/21/20826812/samsung-giphy-gifs-instagram-meme-makers-blue-green

lol sarnsung salty as gently caress

even though the 'ewww green bubble' thing is insufferable its worth perpetuating it to troll never-ios types

pseudorandom posted:

Wtf? What's so bad about an Android user in an iPhone group chat? I only just started using an iPhone, and have never really "used" an Android. How much worse can it be past "ew, they didn't receive my confetti animation" or whatever?

pseudorandom posted:

Wtf? What's so bad about an Android user in an iPhone group chat? I only just started using an iPhone, and have never really "used" an Android. How much worse can it be past "ew, they didn't receive my confetti animation" or whatever?

The Management posted:

adding an android user forces everyone to sms, which is a poo poo protocol

pseudorandom posted:

I mean, if you don't want to use SMS you shouldn't be using something like iMessage which is literally the SMS app + Apple BS. If you don't want to deal with this issue use the literal hundreds of non-SMS-based messaging apps.

It's like the Eric Andre meme: You send a message, then you're like "Why was this sent as an SMS?"

Private Speech posted:

yeah I really don't see how that's anything but Apple being assholes

pseudorandom posted:

Wtf? What's so bad about an Android user in an iPhone group chat? I only just started using an iPhone, and have never really "used" an Android. How much worse can it be past "ew, they didn't receive my confetti animation" or whatever?

pseudorandom posted:

I mean, if you don't want to use SMS you shouldn't be using something like iMessage which is literally the SMS app + Apple BS. If you don't want to deal with this issue use the literal hundreds of non-SMS-based messaging apps.

It's like the Eric Andre meme: You send a message, then you're like "Why was this sent as an SMS?"

pseudorandom posted:

I completely agree. My point was that should be expected. If you don't want to deal with SMS, why not just use Messenger/Whatsapp/Slack/GroupMe/etc instead of using the "SMS+Apple" app?

infernal machines posted:

the only difference is apple doesn't make an app for the vast majority of devices

Jabor posted:

quote:

YouTube‘s made the decision to squash a feature I honestly forgot existed — its private messages. It’s stated reason is to focus on public conversations — and for once I believe the party line here.

According to Google’s announcement, “Two years ago, we launched a feature to enable you to share videos via direct messages on YouTube. Since then, we’ve also focused on public conversations with updates to comments, posts, and stories.” That’s certainly true, given how it’s fiddled with it formula since then.

With the plethora of other messaging apps and platforms available, I’m curious to know how many use cases there are for YouTube DMs — The Verge pointed out that Google alone offers roughly a baker’s dozen other ways to get in touch with someone.

TechCrunch noticed a large portion of those protesting the change were children (or alleged children) who’d apparently been using YouTube‘s DMs to circumvent parental bans on social media and messaging. Check the Google Support announcement if you want to see the impassioned repetition of “Please don’t get rid of the only way I have of talking to my friends.”

I’m all for the cultivation of online friendships, don’t get me wrong — but seeing that makes me more in favor of Google canning the feature, not against it. Assuming TC is correct and the people making these comments are primarily children, YouTube‘s got enough child exploitation on it without letting its DMs run rampant as well.

Google seems to be evolving YouTube into a platform of entertainers and audiences. By eliminating DMs, it’s encouraging communities to do their communicating in the public comments section or in a channel’s posts. It’s not really a “friend” platform so much as it is a combination theater/storefront where Google can cultivate its ad revenue. Without meaning to sound cynical, I wouldn’t be surprised if Google’s inclusion of the feature was to tick a box on a list of features social media sites are “supposed” to have, only to scrap it when it’s mostly utilized by kids eager to slip their digital leashes.

YouTube‘s consolation prize is to remind everyone the share button exists — which seems like a bit of a poor substitute, but I guess that’s the best users are going to get. YouTube Messages officially go away on September 18.

Perplx posted:

It would be cool if google made an imessage clone but they don't have the balls to make end to end encryption the default for 3 billion people.

FAT32 SHAMER posted:

I for one love to be chatting with my friends about stuff in my third party chat programme only to have adverts displayed to me for what we were discussing the next time I log in to Facebook or am scrolling a google page

USSAr posted:

speaking of google and their superior messaging experience

Sagebrush posted:

Get rid of your Facebook account

Zero VGS posted:

I only take pictures of like, receipts and stuff, and it gets all of those as clearly as you'd expect from any modern camera.

This dude does an in-depth camera review:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAv0uXpP0Aw

At the moment though I'm still experiencing some glitchiness with the China import version, namely:

1) Some of the Google services I sideloaded are wonky, for example I can't use navigation from the launcher while on data (i.e. "navigate to blah blah), but it works directly in the Google Maps app, or from the launcher when on wifi.

2) T-Mobile seems to change from "LTE" to "H+" when I'm in a phone call and when I run Google speed tests I consistently get 0.33mbps upload when I'm on a phone call and 3mbps upload when I'm out of a phone call. Download stays the same. Apparently it has to do with not supporting T-Mobile VoLTE or something.

3) The thing has two SIM slots, but when I punch in the IMEI for SIM Slot 2 into my corporate Verizon account, it says it isn't a valid IMEI and won't let me add service. I'm gonna try calling them.

Some of this stuff might be alleviated by flashing the worldwide rom, or waiting for the USA release of the phone. I'm seeing if I can get it all worked out on the stock OS though. It's still less fucky than the Cyanogen stuff I put up with a few years back.

Endless Mike posted:

my phone doesn't work right and i have to janitor it a bunch to get basic functionality, but i saved a whole $100 over buying something that works properly!

sleepwalkers posted:

the tacit admission that this person doesn't have friends or do things by saying "i just take photos of receipts" is amazing.

EL BROMANCE posted:

you know they’d feel an acceptable fix for that navigation issue would be for them to have a second android phone, broken in many different ways, sitting in the car as a personal hotspot.

Endless Mike posted:

this is someone who ordered a phone from china to save $100, so no, i don't think a second phone with more service is really something they'd do.

flakeloaf posted:

non-replaceable batteries are bullshit because nobody cares about having a device that's 0.7 fucktometres thinner if they can't turn the bastard on

replaceable batteries are bullshit because you won't need one until three years from now, and three years from now the only batteries for your phone are the ones made three years ago, or the garbage ones that are literally just potato slices wrapped in plastic

create a need with a thing that won't last