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Lunar Suite
Jun 5, 2011

If you love a flower which happens to be on a star, it is sweet at night to gaze at the sky. All the stars are a riot of flowers.
And once our deprivement, destitution and sorrow bursts like a lanced boil, we shall spring free. Reality, which has cradles us too long, shall peel like a sunburn and release us into obscenity beyond. Existence itself will at long last reject, nay, eject us. The eye of God will blink away our hateful grains and we shall finally be at peace.

e: 213 (pronounced "Two One Three") was an American hip hop trio supergroup from Long Beach, California composed of Snoop Dogg, Warren G and Nate Dogg. The name derives from Los Angeles' original telephone area code 213, which served the city of Long Beach at the time of the band's formation.

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josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

This title contains sponsored content.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-49480491


BBC posted:

Metal detectorists taken ill eating 'cannabis cakes' in High Melton

A detectorist spokesman said: "People could have died."

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Somehow I suspect lovely baking could have been involved, not just the DEMON WEED THAT WILL MAKE YOU SHOOT HEROIN INTO YOUR EYEBALLS.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



Facebook are creating an new snapchat rival built on top of Instagram.

It’s called Threads. Oh dear.

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

Pull me out

I've just received a letter from the DWP about my PIP claim. Can be summarised as "you told us you have these problems but at the assessment you looked fine". The only thing I remember from the assessment is we talked about podcasts and meditation. Declined for both elements of PIP, and 10 weeks to wait for the mandatory reconsideration, followed by who knows how long for a tribunal. As is their primary function, the DWP have crushed all the fight out of me.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Is this any relation to those Melton Mowbray pies being made in Thailand?

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Tarnop posted:

I've just received a letter from the DWP about my PIP claim. Can be summarised as "you told us you have these problems but at the assessment you looked fine". The only thing I remember from the assessment is we talked about podcasts and meditation. Declined for both elements of PIP, and 10 weeks to wait for the mandatory reconsideration, followed by who knows how long for a tribunal. As is their primary function, the DWP have crushed all the fight out of me.

Sorry :(
Hope you have some help available.

Failed Imagineer posted:

Is this any relation to those Melton Mowbray pies being made in Thailand?

People just don't think when they lace food and drink. One of my relatives lives in fear of someone lacing her drinks as she is on permanent medication that reacts extremely badly with alcohol and grapefruit.

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Aug 27, 2019

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Lunar Suite posted:

And once our deprivement, destitution and sorrow bursts like a lanced boil, we shall spring free. Reality, which has cradles us too long, shall peel like a sunburn and release us into obscenity beyond. Existence itself will at long last reject, nay, eject us. The eye of God will blink away our hateful grains and we shall finally be at peace.


Sounds nice

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back
Low Carb & Keto Megathread: The eye of God will blink away our hateful grains and we shall finally be at peace

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Tarnop posted:

I've just received a letter from the DWP about my PIP claim. Can be summarised as "you told us you have these problems but at the assessment you looked fine". The only thing I remember from the assessment is we talked about podcasts and meditation. Declined for both elements of PIP, and 10 weeks to wait for the mandatory reconsideration, followed by who knows how long for a tribunal. As is their primary function, the DWP have crushed all the fight out of me.

See if you can find some advocacy for future sessions.

If you want advice, we're going through this process at the moment, and my wife is fortunate to have access to a strong advocacy group in the charity for her condition, so i could potentially see if any advice is available beyond the below.

It's a horrible process though, and the biggest upshot of our discussions about it is that you have to be EXTREMELY, aggressively defensive and literal and consider in detail what all the questions really mean when you're asked them.

Like, 'do you have any pets' isn't 'do you have any pets' it's 'if they have a pet thy can clearly take care of a pet, so they can't be THAT disabled'.

And you also have to bear in mind just how many of your support structures and mechanisms you rely on, and eliminate them from consideration when you're answering. Like, for her, the questions of 'can you prepare a meal unaided' is complex, because she can - with the aid of her wheelchair, the adaptations we've made to our kitchen, and a lot more time and effort for a worse meal than average. So the answer, strictly, is no - because all the aids she uses to prepare that meal, aren't HER, and she, on her own, absolutely cannot prepare a meal. But if you're not prepared to be that aggressively defensive, you might say yes - which is the answer they're looking for, to mark off against your chance of getting benefits.

The people assessing you aren't trying to give you benefits, they're trying to take them away. You have to stop them.

In short, poo poo sucks, I'm sorry you had to go through that. Hopefully your appeal will be successful.

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Tarnop posted:

I've just received a letter from the DWP about my PIP claim. Can be summarised as "you told us you have these problems but at the assessment you looked fine". The only thing I remember from the assessment is we talked about podcasts and meditation. Declined for both elements of PIP, and 10 weeks to wait for the mandatory reconsideration, followed by who knows how long for a tribunal. As is their primary function, the DWP have crushed all the fight out of me.

drat man, I'm so sorry. The DWP are absolute cunts.

Is there anything we can do to help in the 10 week bridge period?

Diet Crack
Jan 15, 2001

I’m just laughing at the Governments response to these meetings.

“The talks are now making progress!”

Ah yes those same talks that have been making “progress” for.... *checks watch* 3 and a half years. Of which those talks did not go well.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

thespaceinvader posted:

See if you can find some advocacy for future sessions.

If you want advice, we're going through this process at the moment, and my wife is fortunate to have access to a strong advocacy group in the charity for her condition, so i could potentially see if any advice is available beyond the below.

It's a horrible process though, and the biggest upshot of our discussions about it is that you have to be EXTREMELY, aggressively defensive and literal and consider in detail what all the questions really mean when you're asked them.

Like, 'do you have any pets' isn't 'do you have any pets' it's 'if they have a pet thy can clearly take care of a pet, so they can't be THAT disabled'.

And you also have to bear in mind just how many of your support structures and mechanisms you rely on, and eliminate them from consideration when you're answering. Like, for her, the questions of 'can you prepare a meal unaided' is complex, because she can - with the aid of her wheelchair, the adaptations we've made to our kitchen, and a lot more time and effort for a worse meal than average. So the answer, strictly, is no - because all the aids she uses to prepare that meal, aren't HER, and she, on her own, absolutely cannot prepare a meal. But if you're not prepared to be that aggressively defensive, you might say yes - which is the answer they're looking for, to mark off against your chance of getting benefits.

The people assessing you aren't trying to give you benefits, they're trying to take them away. You have to stop them.

In short, poo poo sucks, I'm sorry you had to go through that. Hopefully your appeal will be successful.

Ah yes, an assessment procedure in which the benefit in question can only be obtained by someone in need of it, who actively works to sabotage that very same assessment procedure. It's offensive on so many levels it's almost comical, but it's not, because it's just offensive

seriously gently caress whoever thought that poo poo up

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1166353810580791296?s=21

Niric
Jul 23, 2008

thespaceinvader posted:

See if you can find some advocacy for future sessions.

If you want advice, we're going through this process at the moment, and my wife is fortunate to have access to a strong advocacy group in the charity for her condition, so i could potentially see if any advice is available beyond the below.

It's a horrible process though, and the biggest upshot of our discussions about it is that you have to be EXTREMELY, aggressively defensive and literal and consider in detail what all the questions really mean when you're asked them.

Like, 'do you have any pets' isn't 'do you have any pets' it's 'if they have a pet thy can clearly take care of a pet, so they can't be THAT disabled'.

And you also have to bear in mind just how many of your support structures and mechanisms you rely on, and eliminate them from consideration when you're answering. Like, for her, the questions of 'can you prepare a meal unaided' is complex, because she can - with the aid of her wheelchair, the adaptations we've made to our kitchen, and a lot more time and effort for a worse meal than average. So the answer, strictly, is no - because all the aids she uses to prepare that meal, aren't HER, and she, on her own, absolutely cannot prepare a meal. But if you're not prepared to be that aggressively defensive, you might say yes - which is the answer they're looking for, to mark off against your chance of getting benefits.

The people assessing you aren't trying to give you benefits, they're trying to take them away. You have to stop them.

In short, poo poo sucks, I'm sorry you had to go through that. Hopefully your appeal will be successful.

Seconding all of this. Definitely try to find an advocacy charity near you, or speak to CAB. Appeal every decision, keep records and get as much supporting information from doctors/health professionals as you can. The DWP and the "Independent Assessment Services" (formerly ATOS) are utterly, utterly poo poo

xtothez
Jan 4, 2004


College Slice
The BBC comments section perplexes me. They have two Brexit-related headline articles up now with comments enabled barely an hour apart. For one the replies & votes are overwhelmingly remain, while the other is ARE DEMOCRACY immediate hyper turbo-brexit. These specific comments were posted in two different articles only an hour apart:





Did a bunch of boomers die off before lunchtime, or is someone actively manipulating this? It looks so odd to see 'public opinion' change so sharply within an hour.

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


xtothez posted:

The BBC comments section perplexes me. They have two Brexit-related headline articles up now with comments enabled barely an hour apart. For one the replies & votes are overwhelmingly remain, while the other is ARE DEMOCRACY immediate hyper turbo-brexit. These specific comments were posted in two different articles only an hour apart:


Maybe the one article got posted on mad FUBPEE twitter, and the other got linked on mad Brexit twitter?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

seriously gently caress whoever thought that poo poo up

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012

I have burned numerous saucepans, sometimes right through the metal

Tarnop posted:

Declined for both elements of PIP, and 10 weeks to wait for the mandatory reconsideration, followed by who knows how long for a tribunal. As is their primary function, the DWP have crushed all the fight out of me.

Don't give up! But don't pin any hopes on the mandatory reconsideration either. It's at the tribunal you have a real chance of getting both elements. The wait is long, but the lump sum of back payments is lovely.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Really the sad part is that they don't shoot the assessor after the tribunal.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

xtothez posted:

The BBC comments section perplexes me.

They are the UK equivalent of Free Republic.
Its as you say, full of Boomers and armchair racists/fascists.
The NI comments are just as bad.

This is why the BBC don't open comments on every story. Only 'safe' ones.

Catzilla
May 12, 2003

"Untie the queen"


Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

Ah yes, an assessment procedure in which the benefit in question can only be obtained by someone in need of it, who actively works to sabotage that very same assessment procedure. It's offensive on so many levels it's almost comical, but it's not, because it's just offensive

seriously gently caress whoever thought that poo poo up

https://imgur.com/gallery/1Y7EwlK

Catzilla fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Aug 27, 2019

Tarnop
Nov 25, 2013

Pull me out

Thanks for all the kind words and solidarity. I've contacted Mind to find out about local advocates, and my GP is writing me a letter for evidence. They didn't even contact her, or my therapist :mad:

Citizens Advice website is pretty good, and made it clear that it's very unlikely to be overturned until the tribunal.

You're all top goons, and just knowing that I can post here and get support like this is pretty loving awesome.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Tarnop posted:

Thanks for all the kind words and solidarity. I've contacted Mind to find out about local advocates, and my GP is writing me a letter for evidence. They didn't even contact her, or my therapist :mad:
They don't.

The process is:
Assessor writes down some poo poo trying to hit a target.
You then have to go around getting letters of evidence from your GP, specialists, nurse practitioners, and anyone else involved in your case.
This then goes to tribunal, where 5-6 letters from professionals intimately familiar with your case is roughly equivalent to one 20 minute assessment.

It's a lovely system designed to sap the will of people that appeal, and it's bullshit that's stacked against the most vulnerable, but all people can do until it is overturned is keep pushing.

Random Integer
Oct 7, 2010

Guavanaut posted:

Ah, the one bit of good news. It can't get much worse because we've already hosed it so much over the past decades.

Lads lads lads. The solution to Brexit has been staring us in the face all along. If Britain is in the worst possible state it can possibly be prior to Brexit then Brexit itself will have no impact. Cant blame Brexit for reducing the country to a smoking ruin if its already a smoking ruin in the first place!

If anyone from the Government is reading my draft paper "Creative Destruction: Emerging Strategies for Maintaining Economic Equilibrium in Post-Brexit Britain" is available for a very reasonable fee (pls pay in euros or tins of baked beans).

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
When London is ashes, then you have my permission to Brexit

kingturnip
Apr 18, 2008

Failed Imagineer posted:

When London is ashes, then you have my permission to Brexit

When London is ashes, the rest of the country will probably be bitching that how come loving London got all the ashes

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


All the minor parties seem absolutely terrified of the prospect of Corbyn becoming a PM. Lib dems and SNP I can understand, but why Greens I really don't know.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Private Speech posted:

All the minor parties seem absolutely terrified of the prospect of Corbyn becoming a PM. Lib dems and SNP I can understand, but why Greens I really don't know.

This really isn't true - from what I've seen from green comrades they are wary of the New Labour types stabbing him in the back after a Labour majority.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Greens are as much high tory environmentalists as anything else. Keep the village green (and white) ((and no poors))

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Tesseraction posted:

This really isn't true - from what I've seen from green comrades they are wary of the New Labour types stabbing him in the back after a Labour majority.

Ahh I'm just going by this BBC article, which to be fair is the single mist read one right now.

The Caroline Lucas quote is a bit selective and out of context looking at it now:

quote:

Green MP Caroline Lucas said "the legislative way forward" was "the most secure way to... get rid of that 31 October deadline" and stop a PM "careering towards" no deal.

With the context being that other parties don't want Corbyn to become a PM by way of quoting their leaders.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Also a left wing actually environmentalist labour party risks making the greens entirely redundant except for weird tories.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Private Speech posted:

Ahh I'm just going by this BBC article, which to be fair is the single mist read one right now.

The Caroline Lucas quote is a bit selective and out of context looking at it now:


With the context being that other parties don't want Corbyn to become a PM by way of quoting their leaders.

Yeah - Lucas has specifically endorsed a Corbyn premiership and admonished Swinson immediately after Jo's "NO CORBYNS" response to his proposal.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
legislating away No Deal hasn't come close any of the other many times it's been tried, but I'm sure this time it'll work, because reasons

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

Greens are as much high tory environmentalists as anything else. Keep the village green (and white) ((and no poors))
This wasn't as much true until Corbyn, but yeah, an actual socialist Labour candidate has siphoned off a lot of the Green left to Labour membership, leaving the knit your own yogurt types, primativists, and unfortunately a fair few Malthusian Tories and Soil Yourself Association types.

Scottish Greens are apparently much better.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Guavanaut posted:

This wasn't as much true until Corbyn, but yeah, an actual socialist Labour candidate has siphoned off a lot of the Green left to Labour membership, leaving the knit your own yogurt types, primativists, and unfortunately a fair few Malthusian Tories and Soil Yourself Association types.

Scottish Greens are apparently much better.

The Green Party is caught between a radical leftist youth and a nazi old guard. I cba to post my usual post but it's an x=y graph with left-right spectrum on the x axis and age on the y. (x/2)^2 if you want to be slightly more accurate, and obviously the x axis only begins at 16 (the age you can join)

Barry Shitpeas
Dec 17, 2003

there is no need
to be upset

Winner POTM July 2013
Centrists need to let go of the fantasy that Brexit can be stopped without Corbyn becoming PM

Lord Ludikrous
Jun 7, 2008

Enjoy your tea...

So I’m pleased so say that while I successfully got a job recently (and had finished my second week there as of Friday), I was also successful at getting the job I really wanted, so I’ll be leaving the one I have now shortly.

If people are interested, I have some statistics about my recent search and it would be interesting to compare them to other people’s experiences.

So basically from the day I was notified I was at risk of redundancy to accepting the first job offer I got was a period of 28 days.

Over that 28 day period I submitted 213 applications - the last week I sent out very few as I was moving home, and once I received and accepted the first offer I ceased applying completely.

14 jobs out of those 213 applications got a recruiter or employer in contact regarding them.

9 of those 14 jobs reached the interview stage. Most but not all were a two stage process.

3 of those 9 jobs resulted in an offer. I accepted one, then later got a much better one, and declined the last.

So basically:

1 out of 15 applications led to positive contact.

1 out of 24 applications led to the interview stage.

1 out of 71 applications led to a job offer.

Or alternatively:

6.6% of applications led to positive contact.

64.28% of contacted applications led to an interview.

33.33% of interviews led to a job offer.

Locations covered North Kent, South Essex and East London. Salary for outside London was £25,000+ increasing substantially further into London. This was for office based roles in the fields of logistics, distribution and manufacturing.

As it happens, not one application in London went anywhere.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

Lord Ludikrous posted:

As it happens, not one application in London went anywhere.

maybe u need to send them to london

seriously though congratulations

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Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



I'm upset about Jeremy Soule because Morrowind is one of my favourite things ever that has meant an incredible amount to me.

I'm also upset about people being hosed around by the DWP but don't lose hope, the vast majority of cases that reach a Tribunal are found in the applicant's favour. Sometimes even earlier; my last PIP assessment was accepted at the mandatory reconsideration stage, miracle of miracles!

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