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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Pesky Splinter posted:

I went looking on wikipedia, but got lost and ended up with the category of Individual cats in politics. The Ultimate Cat Tax.
No mention of el Candigato Morris? :sad:

Perfect post for a cat tax.

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kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

forkboy84 posted:

The ethical thing to do is to use it when you need it, but also to keep yourself healthy so you don't have to use it very often.

I'll do this

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



The NHS is good, and I think having JD and Turk being able to come over and work in it after Brexit is a good thing.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Yeah one of those two is getting stopped at the border and sent to Jamaica.

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Guavanaut posted:

Yeah one of those two is getting stopped at the border and sent to Jamaica.

Having watched all seasons of Scrubs because I was really into self-harm for a while there, I can honestly say that the Border Force shooting JD into the cold void of space would be a good idea for any medical system, public or private.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

forkboy84 posted:



The ethical thing to do is to use it when you need it, but also to keep yourself healthy so you don't have to use it very often.

to play devil's advocate, this leads to considerably more drain on the NHS then if you take terrible care of yourself - taking care of the very elderly is incredibly expensive. with that said i can't really ethically recommend anyone eg taking up smoking, fried mars bars and black tar heroin in order to protect the nhs :v:

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


CoolCab posted:

to play devil's advocate, this leads to considerably more drain on the NHS then if you take terrible care of yourself - taking care of the very elderly is incredibly expensive. with that said i can't really ethically recommend anyone eg taking up smoking, fried mars bars and black tar heroin in order to protect the nhs :v:

I've often thought about Mark Blyth's idea of just sending everyone over 70 packages to make dry martinis and unfiltered cigarettes. Have fun while you go out faster.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

CoolCab posted:

to play devil's advocate, this leads to considerably more drain on the NHS then if you take terrible care of yourself - taking care of the very elderly is incredibly expensive. with that said i can't really ethically recommend anyone eg taking up smoking, fried mars bars and black tar heroin in order to protect the nhs :v:

Free bungie jumps and hang gliders for the over 60s!

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


Guavanaut posted:

Yeah one of those two is getting stopped at the border and sent to Jamaica.

Turk would obviously be sent back to his namesake Turkey.

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



Guavanaut posted:

Yeah one of those two is getting stopped at the border and sent to Jamaica.

Ah, good point

Junior G-man posted:

Having watched all seasons of Scrubs because I was really into self-harm for a while there, I can honestly say that the Border Force shooting JD into the cold void of space would be a good idea for any medical system, public or private.

Woah

I'll unironically watch scrubs if I'm channel flicking and bored. It's not up there with classic Simpsons or Frasier though.

The joys of being put up in hotels due to work

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Ratjaculation posted:

Woah

I'll unironically watch scrubs if I'm channel flicking and bored. It's not up there with classic Simpsons or Frasier though.

The joys of being put up in hotels due to work

Don't get me wrong, Scrubs itself is a fine, often funny, show. It's just that I really did think that JD's flight-of-fancy thing was taken past the point of funny and into the aggressively irritating in the later seasons.

Also, 'sup hotels-for-work buddy. Next week I'm in Oxford again.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

CoolCab posted:

to play devil's advocate, this leads to considerably more drain on the NHS then if you take terrible care of yourself - taking care of the very elderly is incredibly expensive. with that said i can't really ethically recommend anyone eg taking up smoking, fried mars bars and black tar heroin in order to protect the nhs :v:
I'll smoke black tar heroin but I'm not loving smoking a fried mars bar, that sounds disgusting.

Comrade Fakename posted:

Turk would obviously be sent back to his namesake Turkey.
Farage in Border Force uniform pointing at a 'No Turks' sign.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

CoolCab posted:

to play devil's advocate, this leads to considerably more drain on the NHS then if you take terrible care of yourself - taking care of the very elderly is incredibly expensive. with that said i can't really ethically recommend anyone eg taking up smoking, fried mars bars and black tar heroin in order to protect the nhs :v:

we could stop medicinal research since new treatment that works is more expensive than old which doesn't

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


CoolCab posted:

to play devil's advocate, this leads to considerably more drain on the NHS then if you take terrible care of yourself - taking care of the very elderly is incredibly expensive. with that said i can't really ethically recommend anyone eg taking up smoking, fried mars bars and black tar heroin in order to protect the nhs :v:

Yeah, I was meant to say kill yourself before you get too old. Don't do it too young, enjoy a couple of years retirement but go before poo poo goes downhill.

forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 13:20 on Aug 29, 2019

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



Junior G-man posted:

Don't get me wrong, Scrubs itself is a fine, often funny, show. It's just that I really did think that JD's flight-of-fancy thing was taken past the point of funny and into the aggressively irritating in the later seasons.

Also, 'sup hotels-for-work buddy. Next week I'm in Oxford again.

Current nerd favourite Brooklyn 99's lead character is basically JD but pop-culture! and it's unbearable.

Hello fellow gigolo 👋

I'm in the midlands atm 😪

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

forkboy84 posted:

Yeah, I was meant to say kill yourself before you get too old.


Also when I searched for 'philip nitschke sarco' earlier this month the NHS suicide prevention page camped the first result, but now it isn't. I wonder if their google ads have run out of money :ohdear:

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Ratjaculation posted:


Hello fellow gigolo 👋

I'm in the midlands atm 😪

At least I got lucky this time and the cheapest place on Booking for my office was what looks to be a really nice pub with good rooms above it. Much more looking forward to that than the actual conference, which will be horrid.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

forkboy84 posted:

Yeah, I was meant to say kill yourself before you get too old. Don't do it too young, enjoy a couple of years retirement but go before poo poo goes downhill.

My poo poo already went downhill, so gently caress that noise - I may as well live forever.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Comrade Silvertongue https://twitter.com/nickfthilton/status/1167040205947310081

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Because this apparently needs spelling out these days, yes that's fake.

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

Tesseraction posted:

Because this apparently needs spelling out these days, yes that's fake.

Welcome to tiny train world, idiots.

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Man, His Dark Materials was already awesome, but I'd read a Lyra the Revolutionary Socialist in a heartbeat.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

My biggest fear was someone replying before I replied, with "you know that's fake right" and then no matter what answer I give everyone would think I fell for it.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

https://twitter.com/intmensdaybot/status/1167054136648634369

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Comrade Fakename posted:

Turk would obviously be sent back to his namesake Turkey.

I mean Britain owns the Turks in the Caribbean

E: https://twitter.com/williamcrawley/status/1167008379644108800?s=19

Cba reading the article, but the photos make it look like ABdePfJ is planning to do something unsavory to Liz :ohdear:

Failed Imagineer fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Aug 29, 2019

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Margaret Atwood - Handmaid's Tale 1985 posted:



That was when they suspended the Constitution. They said it would be temporary. There wasn't even any rioting in the streets.
People stayed home at night, watching television, looking for some direction. There wasn't even an enemy you could put your finger on.


I read this book back then, seemed far-fetched at the time.


source: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-us-troops-children-birthright-citizenship-overseas-a9083036.html

Update to this: I've read the twitter thread linked to where some people have attempted to clarify the situation re this. So I've deleted it because it's very confusing.

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 14:12 on Aug 29, 2019

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Of course, Gauke already confirming that he'd rather have a hard Brexit than a few weeks of Comrade Communist Corbyn in a caretaker PM position:

quote:

He also conceded it was unclear how parliament could stop a no-deal and but he appeared to rule out backing a no confidence motion in the government.

I’ve consistently said that I don’t want to see Jeremy Corbyn as prime minister. I also have to say, I think that a vote of no confidence in these circumstances is not the correct way forward. What would then happen is that we would run into a general election.

Unless another form of government was able to be created, which I very much doubt, then the existing government would be able run down the clock and take us beyond the 31st of October. So I don’t believe that that is the right approach.

Parliament may need to act to stop a no deal. It does look like next week is essentially the only opportunity parliament will have to maintain some control over this process and ensure that it has a say before we leave without a deal.

I don’t think one can rule out the possibility of Parliament being able to find a way through this
.

Instead, we'll have parliamentary magic solve it.

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.
https://twitter.com/GhostofAckbar/status/1167046623106666496
:lol:
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[e]: Oh and Ruth Davidson talking bollocks:
https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1167031187073884165

Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Aug 29, 2019

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

I read this book back then, seemed far-fetched at the time.


source: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-us-troops-children-birthright-citizenship-overseas-a9083036.html

Update to this: I've read the twitter thread linked to where some people have attempted to clarify the situation re this. So I've deleted it because it's very confusing.

99p on today’s Amazon daily deal. Is someone having a laugh do you think

xtothez
Jan 4, 2004


College Slice

Angrymog posted:

Does anyone have a good list of things to put in a one person Brexit-box?

DesperateDan posted:

Toilet paper, disinfectant, cooking oil, salt and pepper.

Then look at the poo poo you normally eat that has long dates on it and buy that in too- for me it's lots of pasta and rice and then tinned stuff/spices to add to it. Tinned fruit for desserts. Multivitamins. Paracetamol/Ibuprofen.

And as you put everything in, note down on paper- or even better excel- what you have, how many and when the best before date is. I'm glad I did, because at a glance I can see I don't need to rotate much from the stocks built up earlier this year.

Can we get this (and any other advice) in the September OP? I have a feeling it will be a recurring question in this thread.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Tijuana Bibliophile posted:

we could stop medicinal research since new treatment that works is more expensive than old which doesn't

Clean water, sanitation, mass vaccinations and public health interventions have done more for improving quality of life and life expectancy than any number of hideously expensive new therapies. By nature of their cost they are only available to the few, and even in the NHS only those in the direst of straits.

Their effect on the health of a population is marginal at best - see various life expectancy charts from the industrial revolution onwards. There were big improvements with sanitation (cholera), vaccinations (smallpox) but by the time antibiotics rolled around even their effect wasn't as big. All the new designer drugs appearing which may extend the lives of some individuals is being balanced by the effect of idiot vaxxers and breakdown in social care and deprivation (cf the original public health interventions).

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Z the IVth posted:

Clean water, sanitation, mass vaccinations and public health interventions have done more for improving quality of life and life expectancy than any number of hideously expensive new therapies. By nature of their cost they are only available to the few, and even in the NHS only those in the direst of straits.

Their effect on the health of a population is marginal at best - see various life expectancy charts from the industrial revolution onwards. There were big improvements with sanitation (cholera), vaccinations (smallpox) but by the time antibiotics rolled around even their effect wasn't as big. All the new designer drugs appearing which may extend the lives of some individuals is being balanced by the effect of idiot vaxxers and breakdown in social care and deprivation (cf the original public health interventions).

Yes - public sanitation had far and away the biggest impact on public health. Did a research project in college at one point on this.

That said, with public sanitation benefits having been pretty well maxed out for the past century, I wonder what the impact of vaccinations and antibiotics is since then?
Or in corporate 'performance improvement' plan speak: we have reaped the low-hanging fruit (public sanitation) and little more to be done there. What are the next 2-3 most important items?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

What are the next 2-3 most important items?
Depends if your metrics are just the "people dead y/n" or overall quality of life, because in the latter case analgesics and anti-seizure drugs have to come high up.

The first items in the WHO Essential Medicines List are all anesthetics, analgesics, and drugs for palliative care. Not going to directly save many lives, but will stop a lot of unnecessary suffering. Next up are anti-allergy and poison antidotes.

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.
We're heading to a post antibiotic era (we're completely failing to find any new novel classes and struggling to twerk existing)...

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Pablo Bluth posted:

struggling to twerk/existing

:same:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Pablo Bluth posted:

struggling to twerk existing
:tutbutt:

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Yes, apparently.

10,11,12 all interconnect.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11_Downing_Street

Also the Cabinet Office, behind them on Whitehall, connects to Number 10, leading to probably the funniest bit of business in Yes Prime Minister:

https://youtu.be/XNiL5hh5rDU

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

xtothez posted:

Angrymog posted:

Does anyone have a good list of things to put in a one person Brexit-box?
Can we get this (and any other advice) in the September OP? I have a feeling it will be a recurring question in this thread.

Debbie Does Dagon
Jul 8, 2005



Pablo Bluth posted:

We're heading to a post antibiotic era (we're completely failing to find any new novel classes and struggling to twerk existing)...

Hopefully the work to catalogue deep sea microorganisms will yield results before the oceans turn into an uninhabitable acid bath

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Or we can engineer phages.

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