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Timby posted:Terry Farrell's contract was due to expire after the sixth season. She was incredibly bored with the role of Jadzia, because she had gotten to the point of having no characterization besides "Worf's love interest." So she approached Rick Berman and asked if she could do a part-time role in the seventh season, just 13 episodes. She pointed out, justifiably so, that DS9 had so many ancillary characters that it's not like anyone would miss Jadzia if she were gone for an episode or two. I wonder if they actually planned out what she was going to do in S7.
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It all sounds like Exhibit A in why working in Hollywood crushes peoples' souls even when they are moderately successful. All the producers are misogynist sex pests; everyone's sleeping with everybody, or trying.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I think Berman also basically fired her without any input from the creative team, so they had to scramble to figure out how to replace her in the story. Yes, Berman told Ira Steven Behr that Farrell had abruptly quit the show, which is why she gets chumped in "Tears of the Prophets." Behr later said that if he had known about Farrell's request to go part-time, he would have absolutely found a way to accommodate her. Edit: Behr also gets high on his own farts a lot of the time, though, so I tend to take a lot of what he says with a grain of salt. Timby fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Aug 29, 2019 |
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Yeah IRA, I think they had phones in 1999 where you could have given Ferrell or her agent a quick ring
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I can buy that Berman harassed a woman into quitting without telling anyone
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ira's misogyny style is much more "wear a terrible beard for 20 years" than "make their working lives hell" from what i can can gather
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lost my old email posted:ira's misogyny style is much more "wear a terrible beard for 20 years" than "make their working lives hell" from what i can can gather A poor sense of fashion isn't really misogyny though
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To be fair -- well, probably totally unfair actually -- someone who perpetually wears a purple beard and sunglasses is just begging you to assume he's guilty of at least low level misogyny, of the "women just don't get me" variety. Not necessarily the serial sexual harassment though.
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Angry_Ed posted:Air Force Space Command is gonna be pissed. I think AFSC gets folded into this new branch. Hopefully they still get to keep the Starfleet delta-style logo. 
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Gonz posted:I think AFSC gets folded into this new branch. Hopefully they still get to keep the Starfleet delta-style logo. Trump doesn't want this associated with any of that Federation commie business.
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Timby posted:So she approached Rick Berman and asked if she could do a part-time role in the seventh season, just 13 episodes. She pointed out, justifiably so, that DS9 had so many ancillary characters that it's not like anyone would miss Jadzia if she were gone for an episode or two. What’s sillier is that Cirroc Lofton, despite being a credited star of the show probably was in less than 50% of each season and was in fewer episodes than some recurring cast members. They could have easily accommodated Farrell’s request!
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Zaroff posted:What’s sillier is that Cirroc Lofton, despite being a credited star of the show probably was in less than 50% of each season and was in fewer episodes than some recurring cast members. They could have easily accommodated Farrell’s request! What a Cirroc! Sorry, I'll sit in the corner.
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Can't believe Andrew Robinson had a Garak journal so big they made a book out of it and this is the first I'm hearing of it
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PostNouveau posted:Can't believe Andrew Robinson had a Garak journal so big they made a book out of it and this is the first I'm hearing of it And it only got published because of a happy coincidence. One of the Pocket Books writers who worked on Trek heard Robinson read an excerpt from the journal at a convention, and approached him and suggested that he submit it to Pocket for publication. Zaroff posted:What’s sillier is that Cirroc Lofton, despite being a credited star of the show probably was in less than 50% of each season and was in fewer episodes than some recurring cast members. They could have easily accommodated Farrell’s request! Oh, absolutely. At that point, Jadzia had two functions: Worf's love interest, and calling out damage reports on the Defiant. She was a nothing character and she wouldn't have been missed at all in a part-time role.
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Jadzia was also useful as a vehicle to explore Dax's previous, more interesting hosts.
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Thom12255 posted:Trump doesn't want this associated with any of that Federation commie business. The sentiment goes both ways, i hope they leave Trek iconography out of this military industry cash bonanza bullshit Drink-Mix Man fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Aug 30, 2019 |
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With all of the incidents with holodecks on starships, how come they are not banned, or serious new safety procedures are not put into place on these things? Does the federation just not believe in safety?
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I said come in! posted:With all of the incidents with holodecks on starships, how come they are not banned, or serious new safety procedures are not put into place on these things? Does the federation just not believe in safety? That's a stupid question
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I said come in! posted:With all of the incidents with holodecks on starships, how come they are not banned, or serious new safety procedures are not put into place on these things? Does the federation just not believe in safety? Lol, these are the safe versions.
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I said come in! posted:With all of the incidents with holodecks on starships, how come they are not banned, or serious new safety procedures are not put into place on these things? Does the federation just not believe in safety? They literally didn't have seatbelts on starships until the Enterprise-E got refitted at the end of Nemesis. And in the era of TUC, they had rolling chairs on the bridge.
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Starfleet officers are thrill seekers, that's why they don't wear seatbelts, their computer consoles are made out of rocks and explosives and they still use the holodeck for recreation despite there being a pretty decent chance the holograms will go wrong and murder them.
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marktheando posted:Starfleet officers are thrill seekers, that's why they don't wear seatbelts, their computer consoles are made out of rocks and explosives and they still use the holodeck for recreation despite there being a pretty decent chance the holograms will go wrong and murder them. This but unironically. They have the tech to run starships without crews but they choose not to because gently caress all yall it’s fun
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Snow Cone Capone posted:A poor sense of fashion isn't really misogyny though I don't think you understand how bad it was
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Whalley posted:I don't think you understand how bad it was Listen pal I listen to heavy metal ok 
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Timby posted:They literally didn't have seatbelts on starships until the Enterprise-E got refitted at the end of Nemesis. And in the era of TUC, they had rolling chairs on the bridge. The Universal Century?
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PerniciousKnid posted:The Universal Century?
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Senor Tron posted:Despite all the times the holodeck goes wrong, is there actually a case when we have seen someone killed on one that wasn't a very intentional piece of sabotage? Geordi, when Captain Picard orders the holodeck de powered and Dr. Braums disappears? Geordi, when Dr. Braums finds her holo-double? [Semi-serious answer: ST:FC, where Picard murks a couple of Borg with a Tommy gun?]
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I remember when I was watching through TNG one moment really stuck with me, when the bridge gets hit at one point and Johnathan Frakes does this unnecessarily elaborate tumble, while in every other scene they just grab the scenery and shake a little. It looked really good and must have required some acrobatic ability to pull off. His legs go all stiff and he just flops over and does a full roll to the side.
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Admiralty Flag posted:Geordi, when Captain Picard orders the holodeck de powered and Dr. Braums disappears? This sequel to Darmok is weird.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:A poor sense of fashion isn't really misogyny though he wears a weird beard purely to spite a hot girl who probably forgot about the whole situation over a decade ago Timby posted:And it only got published because of a happy coincidence. One of the Pocket Books writers who worked on Trek heard Robinson read an excerpt from the journal at a convention, and approached him and suggested that he submit it to Pocket for publication. i love garak so fukken much
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Drink-Mix Man posted:The sentiment goes both ways, i hope they leave Trek iconography out of this military industry cash bonanza bullshit Agreed, but isn't it actually historically about Trek aping real-world space agency iconography? NASA, Roscosmos, CSNA, ISRO, and (debatably) JAXA all have some variant of the delta in their logos. The shape just seems to be generally associated with "space stuff" IRL.
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Drone posted:Agreed, but isn't it actually historically about Trek aping real-world space agency iconography? NASA, Roscosmos, CSNA, ISRO, and (debatably) JAXA all have some variant of the delta in their logos. The shape just seems to be generally associated with "space stuff" IRL. Fair enough. Alright, new deal, just don't name any overpriced unnecessary weapons of war after the Enterprise
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Drink-Mix Man posted:overpriced unnecessary weapons of war after the Enterprise 
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Yeah, but CVN-65 was built in 1958. And there were 7 USS Enterprise’s prior to that, going back to 1775.
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Timby posted:They literally didn't have seatbelts on starships until the Enterprise-E got refitted at the end of Nemesis. And in the era of TUC, they had rolling chairs on the bridge.  I know it must have been a budget thing but they're clearly just cheap office chairs with no attempt to hide the wheels. Utterly shameful.
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Gonz posted:Yeah, but CVN-65 was built in 1958. And there were 7 USS Enterprise’s prior to that, going back to 1775. That's CVN-80, the big floating waste of money being built right now. But yeah it was more me capitalizing on the phrase "overpriced unnecessary weapons of war" regardless on whether they have a name in common with fictional spaceships.
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