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Montasque posted:Ngo(Vietnamese) Tiny(Polynesian), Joseph Gibson(Half-Japanese), Enrique Tarrio(AfroCuban) I wanna say their elevation was at least partially intentional as a way to deflect claims that they were a white supremacist org sadly, this failed when their first attempts at deflection met with "yes non-white people can be white supremacists too" as well as their own membership saying that yes they are white supremacists
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Intel&Sebastian posted:used to do this and mix in weed So were you clintoning the weed or just sucking down big lungfuls of pure unfiltered tobacco fire
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Ngo really needs to change tacks, it's only Q anon boomer supporting him right know. Chart a course for calmer waters as a New York Times opinion haver. Make a sob story about how your quest for objective journalism lead you to be too credulous of hate groups and they'll gladly have you.
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Epic High Five posted:I wanna say their elevation was at least partially intentional as a way to deflect claims that they were a white supremacist org I get what you're saying but what I am talking about is a specific type of 'blood and soil' fascism. The kind that has a stated end goal of the complete annihilation of non-Northern Europeans. The only major player on the alt-right even taking that line is Richard Spencer, and he had a black girlfriend... The skinheads I dealt with in the 1990s targeted the Southern European community for christ sakes. Many of today's leading fascists in Canada and the USA are either poc, bi-racial, or married/dating a POC. Very progressive!
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At a recent event there were some ex-skins from that timeframe organizing with escape from hate or something and afterwards a friend of mine asked them (a kind of rude question imo) if they secretly thought the new crop of neonazis were a bunch of pussies compared to the haters they had escaped from. obviously they didn’t answer but just laughed it off. but yes the new crop of neonazis is a lot different from before and less criminally/organizationally violent than groups in the 90s who would assassinate federal judges and do carbombings and poo poo. That’s why they are moving to stochastic terrorism, infiltration of mainstream conservative groups, and putting so much more effort into deniability - it’s a reaction to the perceived failures of that generation.
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Montasque posted:Ngo(Vietnamese) Tiny(Polynesian), Joseph Gibson(Half-Japanese), Enrique Tarrio(AfroCuban) Isn't IE or some other nazi org led by a (admittedly white skinned) dude named Fuentes DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:At a recent event there were some ex-skins from that timeframe organizing with escape from hate or something and afterwards a friend of mine asked them (a kind of rude question imo) if they secretly thought the new crop of neonazis were a bunch of pussies compared to the haters they had escaped from. obviously they didnt answer but just laughed it off. but yes the new crop of neonazis is a lot different from before and less criminally/organizationally violent than groups in the 90s who would assassinate federal judges and do carbombings and poo poo. I can't see any of the soft lads in orgs like the Proud Boys or Patriot Prayer doing anything serious like that - it feels like today's Nazi orgs simply take advantage of the existing omnipresent state apparatus of oppression and try to get it to run rampant against vulnerable people as much as possible. Sometimes it even backfires on them when the pigs are forced by mass public outcry to actually arrest someone like James Fields who does something truly exceptionally horrible, but today's nazis seem absolutely toothless outside of intentionally engineering excuses for cops to beat up poor people en masse. In other words, they don't have any revolution to win or diabolical leader to install; the status quo is their victory condition and they are doing everything in their power to protect it.
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If they were watching/lurking this thread right now they'd be all like "I dunno, sure sounds like it's the lefties who are obsessed with race to me "
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:At a recent event there were some ex-skins from that timeframe organizing with escape from hate or something and afterwards a friend of mine asked them (a kind of rude question imo) if they secretly thought the new crop of neonazis were a bunch of pussies compared to the haters they had escaped from. obviously they didn’t answer but just laughed it off. but yes the new crop of neonazis is a lot different from before and less criminally/organizationally violent than groups in the 90s who would assassinate federal judges and do carbombings and poo poo. this isn't accidental, this is the kind of shift in nazi culture that people like Richard Spencer have been driving for 10 or so years.
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:At a recent event there were some ex-skins from that timeframe organizing with escape from hate or something and afterwards a friend of mine asked them (a kind of rude question imo) if they secretly thought the new crop of neonazis were a bunch of pussies compared to the haters they had escaped from. obviously they didn’t answer but just laughed it off. but yes the new crop of neonazis is a lot different from before and less criminally/organizationally violent than groups in the 90s who would assassinate federal judges and do carbombings and poo poo. Chillgamesh posted:I can't see any of the soft lads in orgs like the Proud Boys or Patriot Prayer doing anything serious like that - it feels like today's Nazi orgs simply take advantage of the existing omnipresent state apparatus of oppression and try to get it to run rampant against vulnerable people as much as possible. Sometimes it even backfires on them when the pigs are forced by mass public outcry to actually arrest someone like James Fields who does something truly exceptionally horrible, but today's nazis seem absolutely toothless outside of intentionally engineering excuses for cops to beat up poor people en masse. Eh you're comparing things that are on entirely different scales. There were clusters of rightwing-terrorists-doing-violence back then and there are clusters of rightwing-terrorists-doing-violence now; there were millions of all-talk-no-action cowards back then and there are millions of all-talk-no-action cowards now. Just because the cowards are louder and more of them forgo dogwhistling when in public... doesn't necessarily make the actual terrorists any safer or less numerous. Especially when they give themselves irony poisoning on holocaust memes. silentsnack has issued a correction as of 20:40 on Aug 30, 2019 |
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Petr posted:So were you clintoning the weed or just sucking down big lungfuls of pure unfiltered tobacco fire The second one
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Intel&Sebastian posted:The second one nice
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clair subtweeting herself re:andy ngo Montasque posted:I get what you're saying but what I am talking about is a specific type of 'blood and soil' fascism. The kind that has a stated end goal of the complete annihilation of non-Northern Europeans. The only major player on the alt-right even taking that line is Richard Spencer, and he had a black girlfriend... the optimist says even the neo-nazis are better than they used to be the pessimist says the neo-nazis drastically enlarged their political base by softening their hardline stances the nihilist says the right-wing political base has always been a continuum of soft/hard white supremacy, the details are just branding
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lmao
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Montasque posted:I get what you're saying but what I am talking about is a specific type of 'blood and soil' fascism. The kind that has a stated end goal of the complete annihilation of non-Northern Europeans. The only major player on the alt-right even taking that line is Richard Spencer, and he had a black girlfriend... There are always going to be non-white people who see themselves as "better" at accepting/appreciating white culture than they perceive the rest of their race group. Systemic racism provides material incentives for them to do so, being able to socialize with those above you tends to help your chances of maintaining or increasing income. Given that (I think) right wing extremism correlates with personality disorders, these people may even properly hate their own identity as belonging to a race group. Thus, non-white white supremacists. That doesn't explain the behavior of the white white supremacists, of course. I think that can be chalked up to the change in mainstream culture/aesthetics, which was definitely more willing to see racial segregation as "natural" even in the 90s, compared to today. Avowed white supremacists, as a minority in themselves, have a material incentive to appeal to the mainstream in order to advance their goals. (I suspect even those who buy into "3%" type ideas must recognize this on some level.) So, being inclusive to the non-white white supremacists serves as an appeal to the mainstream now, where excluding all POC from membership had sufficient mainstream appeal back then.
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(1) https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1167533177616916480 (2) https://twitter.com/EmilyGorcenski/status/1167530935832764416 quote:A Los Angeles man whose social media accounts had links to a neo-Nazi organization is facing hate crime charges after he yelled anti-Semitic slurs at a Jewish man and his infant and threatened to kill them earlier this month, authorities said.
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Montasque posted:Ngo(Vietnamese) Tiny(Polynesian), Joseph Gibson(Half-Japanese), Enrique Tarrio(AfroCuban) Rome needed goths to do heavy lifting cuz they were getting old fat and lazy because the only front line they’d ever see was a catamite’s rear end
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Alan Smithee posted:Slab Bulkhead!
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https://twitter.com/mom_grateful/status/1167533081336647686
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atomwaffen nazi's soundcloud which shows him reposting nazi rap music which... uh https://soundcloud.com/c-b-blake
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:At a recent event there were some ex-skins from that timeframe organizing with escape from hate or something and afterwards a friend of mine asked them (a kind of rude question imo) if they secretly thought the new crop of neonazis were a bunch of pussies compared to the haters they had escaped from. obviously they didn’t answer but just laughed it off. but yes the new crop of neonazis is a lot different from before and less criminally/organizationally violent than groups in the 90s who would assassinate federal judges and do carbombings and poo poo. Yeah, pretty much. Most of them were hardened criminals, really the worst of the worst. I know of a few who went to Libya and were given "training" thanks to Gaddafi. sleeptalker posted:There are always going to be non-white people who see themselves as "better" at accepting/appreciating white culture than they perceive the rest of their race group. Systemic racism provides material incentives for them to do so, being able to socialize with those above you tends to help your chances of maintaining or increasing income. Given that (I think) right wing extremism correlates with personality disorders, these people may even properly hate their own identity as belonging to a race group. Thus, non-white white supremacists. I think there's a few who fit your definition in paragraph 1. The neo-Confederate Korean Nazi kid comes to mind. But people like Tiny, and the other POC members of the Proud Boys are different. My gut tells me these POC fascists are attracted to the far-right because they worship at the cult of machismo. Look at Brazil as an example of what's coming.
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I smoked when I was in china and it fuckin ruled. whole country was a smoking section. you could just walk into the hotel from the street smoking. i went to france as a nonsmoker (17 years, pack a day) and everyone smoking made me want to light up again so bad. it isnt an issue back home in the us though
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Eat This Glob posted:I smoked when I was in china and it fuckin ruled. whole country was a smoking section. you could just walk into the hotel from the street smoking. Yeah that sounds like they suck.
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"Extreme-left" "Not wanting people to die in factories" is Extreme Left. hth https://twitter.com/TamiRoman/status/1167565791392231424?s=19 just if she unironically thinks white internet stem nerds give a gently caress about anything other than inflating their sad fragile egos
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Race Realists posted:
And lol if she thinks loans are just going to magically go away if you hack a computer.
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predicto posted:And lol if she thinks loans are just going to magically go away if you hack a computer. we live in a fight club
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Montasque posted:I think there's a few who fit your definition in paragraph 1. The neo-Confederate Korean Nazi kid comes to mind. White supremacy is being "post-modernized" and boiled down to its core cultural values, which are the sensibilities of suburbia. predicto posted:And lol if she thinks loans are just going to magically go away if you hack a computer. but in Mr. Robot... Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 02:38 on Aug 31, 2019 |
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:black and milds to compliment a nice cider is antifa now
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https://twitter.com/infinite_scream/status/1167614337470517248?s=19 gently caress no
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it's this
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Montasque posted:Yeah, pretty much. Most of them were hardened criminals, really the worst of the worst. I know of a few who went to Libya and were given "training" thanks to Gaddafi. Tiny's a bully who likes violence and being an rear end in a top hat, don't read anything else into it.
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Zeroisanumber posted:Tiny's a bully who likes violence and being an rear end in a top hat, don't read anything else into it. They didn’t. That’s all there is to it
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What'd Jack's Hack post, anyway?
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somehow this flew under the radar for the past few days, but boogie had an insane meltdown where he said people trolling him are LITERALLY worse than nazis and rapists it got bad enough that keemstar(!) was like 'dude, what the gently caress is wrong with you?"
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"are you implying nazis are bad"
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:White supremacy is being "post-modernized" and boiled down to its core cultural values, which are the sensibilities of suburbia. Is Mr Robot good?
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StashAugustine posted:Is Mr Robot good? Season 1 is...
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StashAugustine posted:Is Mr Robot good? Yeah it's great.
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it seems i need to start binging DC's Legends of Tomorrow! https://twitter.com/JORDEVlO/status/1167198148114210818?s=19 https://twitter.com/peterdaou/status/1167410263118819329?s=19 BornAPoorBlkChild has issued a correction as of 09:07 on Aug 31, 2019 |
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