Lladre posted:

I don't even know what SSOCS is!

TheAgent posted:

hello

• after many, many assurances that the crytek lawsuit would not proceed, chris & co are scrambling (no elaboration)
  
• emails, contracts, recorded conversations and biz licences are being sent for review (legal review?)
  
• Erin "extremely nervous" about outcome, although showing a "carefree attitude" around the office
  
• "I know for a fact he doesn't want another Gizmondo on his hands. Once was enough."
  
• aegis backer event: "Our goal was to be totally positive. We nailed it."
  
• production on certain parts of the game are stopped completely until legal avenues are resolved
  
• mostly that means engine and server improvements
  
• this halt is scheduled to begin 9/3, but employees have known about it for some time
  
• engine switch most likely in the cards, deep discussions about stadia/UE4 ongoing
  
• "Anything made or built with CryEngine would be discarded and re-coded." including animations, models, maps, client and server side code, etc
  
• "We'd have to redo a lot of work. It'd be worth it, because it's the only way forward."
  

TheAgent posted:

[*]"Anything made or built with CryEngine would be discarded and re-coded." including animations, models, maps, client and server side code, etc

Slow_Moe posted:

I, and my 14 alts, have done my part here. Looking forward to my check in the mail from Derek.

All is going according to plan.

Mirificus posted:

Sarsapariller posted:

ahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa

Star Citizen 2020: "We've decided to switch to Unreal, new release target is 2022"

All Three Remaining Backers: "Now there's the Chairman I know and love!"

Jonny Shiloh posted:

Sheesh, I dunno, it's almost like they're making it up as they go along to placate an investor who has a sizeable sum in the project.

Erin totally doesn't sound like someone talking faster and faster to blind an investor with science and to promote a false sense of confidence in the project. No sirree Bob.

Jonny Shiloh posted:

Erin totally doesn't sound like someone talking faster and faster to blind an investor with science and to promote a false sense of confidence in the project. No sirree Bob.

Sarsapariller posted:

Chris Roberts is the world's biggest quality-over-deadlines proponent

It's terribly unfortunate how he is always failed by his bumbling incompetent subordinates through no fault of his own and forced to release total poo poo time and time again

If I were Epic I'd refuse to sell them a copy of the Unreal license, gently caress having this albatross anywhere near my codebase

Fidelitious posted:

It probably is actually a good move though. I mean, they're switching engines because of legal reasons when they should have done it a while ago because of technical reasons, better late than never right?

There's really only a couple viable game engines that also provide the kind of developer support that they're likely looking for, so Unreal seems like a good choice (that they should have made 6 years ago).
I'm actually kind of surprised that they would be stressing out over the lawsuit. It's a money burner sure, but Crytek's case looks really weak from my uneducated perspective.

trucutru posted:

As a software engineer my word is the law and I bet your face is even uglier than your mom's, you idiot. you're dismissed.

Golli posted:

What's the relationship between Epic/Unreal Engine and Epic Games Store that some people are so riled up about?


Like, if they are the same Epic, what will happen to Cymelion if CIG engine-switches to Tencent-Unreal?

Hazamuth posted:

I mean, yeah it actually is a good idea, as their current engine of choice isn't suitable at all for the project, I am not disputing that at all. It is just that the backers have fully invested in the whole Star Engine / Lumberyard hype, where Star Engine was supposed to be this custom engine that was miles ahead of competition on every level and the change to Lumberyard brought Amazon on board (fully, if some backers are to be believed). It would just be extremely funny to see the mental gymnastics needed to pivot that hard in regard to the engine.

Tippis posted:

To be slightly more nuanced while still retaining the “loving idiots” angle…

It is entirely normal to stagger releases. It's a pretty standard methodology. It's just that, at that point, you're not “working on different versions/patches” but simply working on different components, and whatever is ready for roll-out in any given release window is rolled into that release.

So the loving-idiot-angle is less about version interdependencies as it is about “well duh, this is exactly the same thing you've been doing all along, except you now have 6-month windows to be wrong about rather than 3-month ones… loving idiots.”

Jonny Shiloh posted:

OK, agreed, but let me give it a shot.

1. CryEngine was state of the art in 2012 (+/-4 years) when the project was kick-started.
2. It's become obvious over the past year (+/-4 years) that CryEngine isn't good enough.
3. Ergo, we need to switch engines you goon fuckwit.

MedicineHut posted:

Staggered dev is the poo poo though

If we define the amount of work delivered as the product of resources and time as

W=M * m, where

W is work delivered measured in man months
M are the available resources measured in number of devs, or "men".
m is the number of months

For a period of 6 months the amount of work delivered is:

A) One team composed of 500 devs, W=500*6=3000 man months
B) Two teams composed of 250 devs each, W=250*6*2= 3000 man months

TheAgent posted:

hello

• after many, many assurances that the crytek lawsuit would not proceed, chris & co are scrambling (no elaboration)
  
• emails, contracts, recorded conversations and biz licences are being sent for review (legal review?)
  
• Erin "extremely nervous" about outcome, although showing a "carefree attitude" around the office
  
• "I know for a fact he doesn't want another Gizmondo on his hands. Once was enough."
  
• aegis backer event: "Our goal was to be totally positive. We nailed it."
  
• production on certain parts of the game are stopped completely until legal avenues are resolved
  
• mostly that means engine and server improvements
  
• this halt is scheduled to begin 9/3, but employees have known about it for some time
  
• engine switch most likely in the cards, deep discussions about stadia/UE4 ongoing
  
• "Anything made or built with CryEngine would be discarded and re-coded." including animations, models, maps, client and server side code, etc
  
• "We'd have to redo a lot of work. It'd be worth it, because it's the only way forward."
  

Zaphod42 posted:

The more I read this the more I'm convinced that there isn't a single person at CIG with any experience managing software development

These guys are still developing on the waterfall model like its the 90s

And rather than learning proper agile mentality they've decided to invent their own leapfrog waterfall model. Its staggering.

Slow_Moe posted:

I, and my 14 alts, have done my part here. Looking forward to my check in the mail from Derek.

All is going according to plan.

Kosumo posted:

Are you still getting paid by check?

I've switched over to getting paid in Derekcoin - the way I see it, it's the currency of the future right now. You should switch over, it's the Smart thing to do.

Hazamuth posted:

I can't wait for the inevitable engine change and how backers will justify it.

Baxta posted:

Switching off of cryengine is a good move. As much as I like making GBS threads on this fyre festival, this is the only thing that can help the backers now.