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Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/1163898616077070336

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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Charlz Guybon posted:

Saw this pop up on my feed. How big a problem is this?

https://twitter.com/NonWhiteHat/status/1163662091997331457

#jaihind

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

if that was too flippant, well, poo poo's bad

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
I saw this on an Indian forum:

https://twitter.com/Nexoft117/status/1162399483277086720

and it made me think, is Bellingcat covering the situation in Kashmir?

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
Gun battle kills a militant and a police officer

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/21/kashmir-suspected-militant-killed-in-indian-security-operation

RaffyTaffy
Oct 15, 2008
https://twitter.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1164130691480727557

Another source https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/china-stations-2-ships-near-ongc-oil-block/820882.html

Interesting little side thing.

I guess china sent the boats in to reinforce their own interest in the waters and put a bit of pressure on India/Vietnamese relations.

The tweet has various lovely comments on how India should sink the Chinese fleet in response to this intimidation.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010

RaffyTaffy posted:

https://twitter.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1164130691480727557

Another source https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/china-stations-2-ships-near-ongc-oil-block/820882.html

Interesting little side thing.

I guess china sent the boats in to reinforce their own interest in the waters and put a bit of pressure on India/Vietnamese relations.

The tweet has various lovely comments on how India should sink the Chinese fleet in response to this intimidation.

You'd think China would sit back and wait a few months for things to settle down between India and Pakistan before poking them with a stick, but apparently not.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Charlz Guybon posted:

You'd think China would sit back and wait a few months for things to settle down between India and Pakistan before poking them with a stick, but apparently not.

It's the opposite, with tensions high this is the perfect opportunity to jump in and make plays for strategic interests.

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006

RaffyTaffy posted:

https://twitter.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1164130691480727557

Another source https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/nation/china-stations-2-ships-near-ongc-oil-block/820882.html

Interesting little side thing.

I guess china sent the boats in to reinforce their own interest in the waters and put a bit of pressure on India/Vietnamese relations.

The tweet has various lovely comments on how India should sink the Chinese fleet in response to this intimidation.


MiddleOne posted:

It's the opposite, with tensions high this is the perfect opportunity to jump in and make plays for strategic interests.

Speaking of strategic interests:



"lmao"

Willie Tomg fucked around with this message at 07:37 on Aug 23, 2019

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Willie Tomg posted:

Speaking of strategic interests:



"lmao"

it's a shame that trump-protectionists in india are protesting china free trade with most of asia

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Willie Tomg posted:

Speaking of strategic interests:



"lmao"

Personally I'm Nairobi being part of the 21st century maritime silkroad

E: Wait this isn't the maps thread

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
The important trade port of Venice.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

?

Not sure what's so remarkable about this map, other than its clumsy approximations.

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene

Cat Mattress posted:

?

Not sure what's so remarkable about this map, other than its clumsy approximations.

Seems like any and every Chinese neighbor could make a play for strategically important sections of the silk road trade route which would require China to project it's military might beyond it's national borders if there were any kind of significant conflict

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/india-police-feel-muslims-commit-crime-190828164739111.html

Flayer
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Buglord
What the gently caress India?

Apart from all the xenophobia I think the most shocking stat comes right at the end of the article - 80% of police think it's ok to beat up a suspect to get a confession.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Flayer posted:

What the gently caress India?

Apart from all the xenophobia I think the most shocking stat comes right at the end of the article - 80% of police think it's ok to beat up a suspect to get a confession.

in the asian/ME world the word beating has a sliding scale from light tapping to actual true beatings. So id like to know whos okay with literally pulping people.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
Oped by the PM of Pakistan

https://mobile.twitter.com/nytimes/status/1167376439508983814

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Imran Khan is desperately trying to get the rest of the world to gang up against India. Unfortunately for him, Pakistan is probably the worst country for doing that. It cannot claim the moral high ground, it cannot claim to be neutral and unbiased, and it cannot claim to be a better commercial partner than India.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/30/world/asia/kashmir-india-pakistan.html

quote:

NEW DELHI — The Indian government imposed fresh restrictions on the disputed Kashmir region on Friday, telling people to stay off the streets as the crisis there dragged into its fourth week.

According to reports in the Indian media — foreign journalists have been barred from entering Kashmir — security forces set up barricades, more businesses closed down, and public transportation had ground to a halt.

India has imposed more restrictions ahead of todays prayers.

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Cat Mattress posted:

Imran Khan is desperately trying to get the rest of the world to gang up against India. Unfortunately for him, Pakistan is probably the worst country for doing that. It cannot claim the moral high ground, it cannot claim to be neutral and unbiased, and it cannot claim to be a better commercial partner than India.

Yes him pleading for world leaders to look past that was literally the point and conclusion of the article.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Cat Mattress posted:

Imran Khan is desperately trying to get the rest of the world to gang up against India. Unfortunately for him, Pakistan is probably the worst country for doing that. It cannot claim the moral high ground, it cannot claim to be neutral and unbiased, and it cannot claim to be a better commercial partner than India.

And yet he's not wrong.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...n-idUSKCN1VL04W

quote:

NAGAON/GUWAHATI, India (Reuters) - Nearly 2 million people have been left off a list of citizens released on Saturday in India’s northeastern state of Assam, after a mammoth years-long exercise to check illegal immigration from neighboring Muslim-majority Bangladesh.

Resentment against illegal immigrants has simmered for years in Assam, one of India’s poorest states, with residents blaming outsiders, many said to come from neighboring Bangladesh, for stealing their jobs and land.

quote:

His close aide, Home Minister Amit Shah, has previously vowed to weed out illegal immigrants, calling them “termites”.

Yeah this isn't going to be good.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Orange Devil posted:

And yet he's not wrong.

And yet, I doubt anyone gives enough of a poo poo and would prefer Pakistan to just fold.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

who are india's close allies? i don't think they have much international goodwill at all, comparison to pakistan notwithstanding

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Well not really. But they're the bigger consumer market, have a better image among regular citizens of western countries and above all have the advantage of not being Pakistan. It's not the hugest differences, but considering how little attention Kashmir is getting depsite what it is clearly it matters.

Yeah India is bad at making friend though.

MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Aug 31, 2019

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead
India has pretty good ties to a lot of the Commonwealth.

and yeah they're also Not Pakistan

Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013

i say swears online posted:

who are india's close allies? i don't think they have much international goodwill at all, comparison to pakistan notwithstanding

I don't think they're super close with anyone, but they're on good terms with lots of countries.

The US have India an exemption for buying nuclear technology, and generally considers India to be a sort of hedge against a growing China.

Russia has often worked with India, especially on weapons stuff.

There's the Commonwealth as has been mentioned. India was also a key member of the old Non Aligned movement during the Cold War; I seem to recall them having ties with the like of Egypt.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

i say swears online posted:

who are india's close allies? i don't think they have much international goodwill at all, comparison to pakistan notwithstanding

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Indias-strategic-partnerships_tbl1_302559073

India manages to have strategic partnerships with USA, Israel, Saudi Arabia on the one hand, and with Russia and Iran on the other.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost
India has more to offer than Pakistan. The Muslim countries infight and also hate Pakistan to my knowledge. There were like dozen decades of corruption thanks to Bhutto, Nawaz and the like that exploited the country.

Dante80
Mar 23, 2015

Israel has a lot more to offer than Palestine too.



I'm not saying that the two situations are analogous, but the gist of the matter is, the Hindu nationalists in India are shafting the people of Kashmir. Pretty hard right now.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

Gatts posted:

India has more to offer than Pakistan. The Muslim countries infight and also hate Pakistan to my knowledge. There were like dozen decades of corruption thanks to Bhutto, Nawaz and the like that exploited the country.

India has a weird thing where it's a relatively young nation as the Republic of India only really started existing in the 1950's. Getting independence from England is a pretty recent thing. It's simultaneously incredibly ancient in other ways. It has to deal with rampant poverty but is also one of the world's biggest markets for a lot of things and intimately tied into the global tech sector for a variety of reasons.

Aside from India and Pakistan not getting along there has been a lot of friction between Afghanistan and Pakistan. Pakistan I think has been repeatedly caught harboring terrorists and having ties to the Taliban. Pretty much nobody likes the Taliban which by extension sours peoples' opinion of Pakistan.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
Nine dead in exchange of fire between Indian and Pakistani forces over the Line of Control in Kashmir


India has threatened trade restrictions against Turkey and Malaysia for criticizing it's crackdown on Kashmir.

India is the biggest importer of palm oil and Malaysia is the second largest exporter. India traders are already calling for a boycott:

https://m.in.investing.com/news/com...boycott-2010402

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010

Not good, not good at all.

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
Looks like Modi's chuds are taking over every institution in the country

https://www.thenation.com/article/arundhati-roy-assam-modi/

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Surprised there hasn't been much news (hitting the west) since Modi's :master: in Kashmir. Anything of note?

Grouchio fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Nov 24, 2019

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
India is nominally in America's good graces so the awful poo poo it does is not going to receive the same amount of play in western news as Russia or China.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

mila kunis posted:

India is nominally in America's good graces so the awful poo poo it does is not going to receive the same amount of play in western news as Russia or China.

this, but i feel like its also that trump could give less of a gently caress, i mean he just fired his navy secratary to keep a litteral war criminal safe. any other president probably would have tried to stop the poo poo in back channels at least.

Willie Tomg
Feb 2, 2006

Dapper_Swindler posted:

this, but i feel like its also that trump could give less of a gently caress, i mean he just fired his navy secratary to keep a litteral war criminal safe. any other president probably would have tried to stop the poo poo in back channels at least.

The only reason the USA hasn't pivoted more strongly to India as a part of the so-called "pivot to China" is because everyone relevant to the concern at State has long since resigned in disgust for the private sector, and the military doesn't want to rock the boat re: India/Pakistan when it hasn't exploded yet and there's already half a dozen disasters to be going on with every day, and as you note Trump does not seem to have noticed India and Pakistan are discrete entities and not just one big thing.

This is absolutely a disaster in the making for a subsequent administration when events require them to pick a side.

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Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Willie Tomg posted:

The only reason the USA hasn't pivoted more strongly to India as a part of the so-called "pivot to China" is because everyone relevant to the concern at State has long since resigned in disgust for the private sector, and the military doesn't want to rock the boat re: India/Pakistan when it hasn't exploded yet and there's already half a dozen disasters to be going on with every day, and as you note Trump does not seem to have noticed India and Pakistan are discrete entities and not just one big thing.

This is absolutely a disaster in the making for a subsequent administration when events require them to pick a side.
What are Bernie's views on India/Pakistan?

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