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Nuclear Spoon posted:what's the likelihood of the lib dems facing a crisis after welcoming in a bunch of ex-tories. obviously that LGBT chair resigning was one thing but surely most of them don't actually care right I would imagine that come an actual election, when Lib Dem campaigners will be expected to canvas for unvarnished straight-up Tories, we may see some friction.
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Nuclear Spoon posted:what's the likelihood of the lib dems facing a crisis after welcoming in a bunch of ex-tories. obviously that LGBT chair resigning was one thing but surely most of them don't actually care right Many of the seats the Lib Dems could reasonably aim to pick up are currently tory. They could be banking that there's space for a non-insane remain-leaning conservative-leaning party to carve chunks off the tories. This probably isn't a terrible strategy but who knows it it'll work out for them or if they'll stick with it.
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Nuclear Spoon posted:what's the likelihood of the lib dems facing a crisis after welcoming in a bunch of ex-tories. obviously that LGBT chair resigning was one thing but surely most of them don't actually care right They've had a decade that has tended to select against any members who care more about principles than power, so...
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:02 |
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So I don’t quite get this part - why do they have to vote on it again if they already voted last night?
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:02 |
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Lol https://twitter.com/helenlewis/status/1169165917881810944?s=19
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:02 |
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Gotta say, very much enjoyed the liveposting last night. Way more fun to do it with you maniacs as my fiance, lovely in every other aspect, does not have deep politics brainworms and doesn't want to stay up till midnight talking about parliamentary procedures. She's probably the healthy one in our relationship.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:03 |
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coffeetable posted:the election isn't the goal; keeping everyone tied in knots up until the 31st is the goal. if no election is held, the gov is still in power and gets to do what it wants Both are goals. He genuinely thinks he can be remembered by history as a great Prime Minister, but to do that he needs a majority back. Johnson wants to deliver No Deal and hold onto power for as long as possible to sate his ego. An election is essential for the latter, and until yesterday it was a handy way to run the clock down and help achieve the former. Now his best hope for No Deal is that enough people deliver a mandate for him to override yesterday's parliament decision before the end of October.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:03 |
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Delthalaz posted:So I don’t quite get this part - why do they have to vote on it again if they already voted last night? The vote last night was to change the order paper to make sure today's vote comes first and must be held today. Today's vote is the actual bill that ties Boris' hands.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:04 |
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Nuclear Spoon posted:what's the likelihood of the lib dems facing a crisis after welcoming in a bunch of ex-tories. obviously that LGBT chair resigning was one thing but surely most of them don't actually care right Lib Dem voters would actually have to pay attention to who the party are and what they do, rather than living in fantasy 90s world where the lib dems are the most progressive party for sensible people with a social conscience.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:04 |
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Delthalaz posted:So I don’t quite get this part - why do they have to vote on it again if they already voted last night? They voted last night to take control of the agenda, today is actually putting their legislation forward.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:04 |
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Strap yourselves in, lasses. Today's going to be a day.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:07 |
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I'm about eight pages behind so if this has been posted already I apologise
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:08 |
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sebzilla posted:
It bears reposting, it's the best edit of that image so far.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:08 |
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So what's today's timetable? Whoever posted guidelines of when interesting stuff was likely to happen yesterday was very useful.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:10 |
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quote:In his morning London Playbook briefing for Politico Europe, Jack Blanchard has some more evidence of the backlash in the Conservative party against Boris Johnson’s decision to remove the whip from the 21 Tory rebels. Here’s an extract.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:10 |
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We can only hope that as the majority goes through the floor, so will Rees-Mogg enter the ground.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:10 |
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What time is the vote today?
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:11 |
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sebzilla posted:
tbf, depending on what happens in the next few days, it should really go in next month's OP
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:12 |
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He needs kicking out https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1169162507006697473?s=19
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:14 |
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Junior G-man posted:"Imagine what we’d be saying if Corbyn did something like this” ... It would be an absolute shitstorm, waaaaaaay more dramatic than what actually happened that's for sure.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:14 |
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Paperhouse posted:What time is the vote today? 11.30am Prayers Afterwards Oral Questions: Wales 12 noon Oral Questions: Prime Minister 12.30pm Urgent Questions, Ministerial Statements (if any) No debate Presentation of Bills Up to 20 minutes Ten Minute Rule Motion: Compulsory Purchase and Planning (Emma Hardy) Until 7.00pm European Union (Withdrawal) (No. 6) Bill: All Stages Up to 90 minutes Early Parliamentary General Election (Motion) Until 7.00pm Animal Welfare (Sentencing) Bill: Remaining Stages No debate after 7.00pm Motion relating to the membership of the Selection Committee No debate Presentation of Public Petitions Until 7.30pm or for half an hour Adjournment Debate: Treasury funding for the Department of Health and Social Care (Robert Halfon) WESTMINSTER HALL
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:14 |
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Oh please let the Tories split them selves into the Conservative Party (Faragist-Johnsonist) and the Real Continuity Conservatives and cannibalize each other at the polls
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:14 |
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sebzilla posted:
God, he's such a loathsome oval office
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:16 |
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Order paper for today: https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201719/cmagenda/OP190904.pdf Will be this afternoon I believe before anything happens.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:19 |
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Jose posted:He needs kicking out I'd grumble about how he's getting interviewed and not, like, Abbott or McDonnell, but it's the BBC of course they're interviewing the rightwing backbencher and not the leadership.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:19 |
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Hey thread, are there any decent UK left wing online newspapers? New Statesman?
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:20 |
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the whole piece is excellent https://www.politico.eu/newsletter/...-a-pro-part-ii/ Pochoclo posted:Hey thread, are there any decent UK left wing online newspapers? New Statesman? as recently agreed by the thread, the FT is the best
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:22 |
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https://twitter.com/OdysseanProject - apparently this is Cummings' Twitter account if anyone happens to have some thoughts they want to share with him.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:24 |
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Pochoclo posted:Hey thread, are there any decent UK left wing online newspapers? New Statesman? No. Not consistently. There are some decent articles in some online newspapers sometimes. Personally, I find the FT and the Independent best. My card-carrying, tory party member, ultra wealthy relative calls both of those 'very left wing'.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:24 |
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the new statesman is terf city, steer clear imo (although i have a soft spot for @stephenkb)
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:25 |
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Pochoclo posted:Hey thread, are there any decent UK left wing online newspapers? New Statesman? You're not going to get real left-wing news in the mainstream media. Best places to go are sites like Novara Media and Another Angry Voice. This thread aggregates the best/most important stories from a wide range of biases though so if you keep up to date with it you'll be doing all right.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:25 |
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Vlex posted:We can only hope that as the majority goes through the floor, so will Rees-Mogg enter the ground. https://twitter.com/GazWeetman/status/1169011754820657154
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:27 |
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If I've learned anything from yesterday's events, it's the term "manspreading", which I somehow managed to avoid until now.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:27 |
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Pochoclo posted:Hey thread, are there any decent UK left wing online newspapers? New Statesman? New Statesman and the i (not the independent, the weird offshoot of it) are sometimes not terrible but can't be relied on and have a tendency of falling into Blair hagiography. New Statesman also published Helen Lewis' insane TERF rants until fairly recently.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:28 |
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Having a quiet chuckle at Tories melting down because 'we're supposed to be the progressive one nation conservative party'. They've completely bought their own bullshit.
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:29 |
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still loling
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# ? Sep 4, 2019 10:30 |
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sebzilla posted:
Repeatedly, but don't worry. Andrew Adonis tweeted it and it's made it to the Guardian.
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Indie is kinda garbo and owned by oil sheiks There isn't a left wing paper in the UK sadly, on account of not many press barons wanting to be taxed
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Jedit posted:Repeatedly, but don't worry. Andrew Adonis tweeted it and it's made it to the Guardian. It's funny but that X-axis isn't linear yet the Y is and it's doing my nut in.
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